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If the prophets had extra-ordinary powers, how were any of them killed?

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    Jack
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    Peace,

    The question is rhetorical.

    Quran talks about messengers being killed and/or taken captive (See 287 and 3326). Now, if they were anything other than ordinary humans that couldn't happen could it?

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      salam
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      It could if God wills, their extra powers are from God.

      Whenever he wants he can give them the powers, and whenever he wants he can take away the powers from them.

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        Tony
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        Since messengers are good examples of martyrs, God is showing us what martyrdom is and its benefits.

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          peace4life
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          Besides, their powers were not that they never die. Their powers were just signs for the people and a support from the angels.

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            Jafar
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            Who said "prophets" MUST had "extra-ordinary" powers?

            We then should discuss what NAVI (Hebrew) / NABIY (Arabic) / Prophet (English) actually really means..

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              drfazl
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              .

              Say "I have no power over any harm or profit to myself except as Allah wishes. To every people is a term appointed when their term is reached, not an hour can they cause delay, nor can they advance."

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                AaRoN
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                i agree with jafar's post in this instance

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                  pvb
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                  proph?et
                  ?noun 1. a person who speaks for God or a deity, or by divine inspiration.
                  2. (in the Old Testament) a. a person chosen to speak for God and to guide the people of Israel Moses was the greatest of Old Testament prophets.
                  b. (often initial capital letter) one of the Major or Minor Prophets.
                  c. one of a band of ecstatic visionaries claiming divine inspiration and, according to popular belief, possessing magical powers.
                  d. a person who practices divination.

                  1. one of a class of persons in the early church, next in order after the apostles, recognized as inspired to utter special revelations and predictions. 1 Cor. 1228.
                  2. the Prophet, Muhammad, the founder of Islam.
                  3. a person regarded as, or claiming to be, an inspired teacher or leader.
                  4. a person who foretells or predicts what is to come a weather prophet; prophets of doom.
                  5. a spokesperson of some doctrine, cause, or movement.
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                    Jack
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                    Who said "prophets" MUST had "extra-ordinary" powers?

                    We then should discuss what NAVI (Hebrew) / NABIY (Arabic) / Prophet (English) actually really means..

                    That's the traditional thought. Sunnis especially teach this.

                    I do agree with you.

                    Rewhich definition of Prophet?

                    The ones mentioned in Al Quran

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                      Daud-19
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                      Prophets and Angels come to us as human beings. If God decides to have them
                      be killed for a reason, then they obtain Martyr Status, some say
                      this is the highest honor that God gives to His Servants...

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                        agentxxx
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                        Peace Imran/all.

                        I think these verses may answer your Query.

                        Before thee, also, the messengers We sent were but men, to whom We granted inspiration If ye realise this not, ask of those who possess the Message. 21 7.
                        Nor did We give them bodies that ate no food, nor were they exempt from death. 21 8.

                        We granted not to any man before thee permanent life (here) if then thou shouldst die, would they live permanently? 2134.

                        Their messengers said to them We are nothing but mortals like yourselves, but Allah bestows (His) favors on whom He pleases of His servants, and it is not for us that we should bring you an authority except by Allah's permission; and on Allah should the believers rely.1411.

                        And Muhammad is no more than a messenger; the messengers have already passed away before him; if then he dies or is killed will you turn back upon your heels? And whoever turns back upon his heels!s, he will by no means do harm to Allah in the least and Allah will reward the grateful.3144.

                        Say I am only a mortal like you; it is revealed to me that your god is one Allah, therefore whoever hopes to meet his Lord, he should do good deeds, and not join any one in the service of his Lord. 18110.

                        Christ the son of Mary was no more than a messenger; many were the messengers that passed away before him. His mother was a woman of truth. They had both to eat their (daily) food. See how Allah doth make His signs clear to them; yet see in what ways they are deluded away from the truth! 575.

                        Or you should have a house of gold, or you should ascend into heaven, and we will not believe in your ascending until you bring down to us a book which we may read. Say Glory be to my Lord; am I aught but a mortal messenger?1793.

                        peace

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                          Daud-19
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                          Peace Imran/all.

                          I think these verses may answer your Query.

                          Before thee, also, the messengers We sent were but men, to whom We granted inspiration If ye realise this not, ask of those who possess the Message. 21 7.
                          Nor did We give them bodies that ate no food, nor were they exempt from death. 21 8.

                          We granted not to any man before thee permanent life (here) if then thou shouldst die, would they live permanently? 2134.

                          Their messengers said to them We are nothing but mortals like yourselves, but Allah bestows (His) favors on whom He pleases of His servants, and it is not for us that we should bring you an authority except by Allah's permission; and on Allah should the believers rely.1411.

                          And Muhammad is no more than a messenger; the messengers have already passed away before him; if then he dies or is killed will you turn back upon your heels? And whoever turns back upon his heels!s, he will by no means do harm to Allah in the least and Allah will reward the grateful.3144.

                          Say I am only a mortal like you; it is revealed to me that your god is one Allah, therefore whoever hopes to meet his Lord, he should do good deeds, and not join any one in the service of his Lord. 18110.

                          Christ the son of Mary was no more than a messenger; many were the messengers that passed away before him. His mother was a woman of truth. They had both to eat their (daily) food. See how Allah doth make His signs clear to them; yet see in what ways they are deluded away from the truth! 575.

                          Or you should have a house of gold, or you should ascend into heaven, and we will not believe in your ascending until you bring down to us a book which we may read. Say Glory be to my Lord; am I aught but a mortal messenger?1793.

                          peace

                          bravo

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                            agentxxx
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                            Peace and thanks Daud

                            peace

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