My translations/understandings of the Quran
-
Peace,
Honestly I don't need translations to read and understand the Quran but I understand that many of you do. So in an effort to give everyone here an idea of how the Quran can be understood aside from the message (just to offer more valid understandings) I'm gong to be posting the translations I have done when I do them. I hope those who read get some benefit from it. Also even though I have included the names and translated them these names are not apart of the Quran. If anyone has questions please just pm me.
In the name of God, the Merciful, the Gracious; full of compassion & always giving of his grace & mercy
Muhammad have you considered how your Lord has dealt with those who cause confusion and doubt about Him?
2. Has he not made it their plans a delusion?
3. He has put in flight troops of various kinds against them,
4. who will throw them into a prison of lava rock,
5. in order to reduce them to something like eaten up, digested straw.106 The Dear Gathering
In the name of God, the Merciful, the Gracious; full of compassion & always giving of his grace & mercy
As it concerns the obligation of a dear gathering
2. This obligation is a journey during both the winter and spring!
3. May they serve the Lord of that house,
4. who has fed them when hungry and given them security when afraid.107 Things of Common Use
In the name of God, the Merciful, the Gracious; full of compassion & always giving of his grace & mercy
Muhammad, have you see him who denies the Day of Judgment and this discipline?
2. He pushes away the orphan and the abandoned,
3. and he does not induce others to feed the needy.
4. Woe to those who pray and bless
5. But are oblivious to their blessings and absent-minded in their prayers.
6. They dissimulate, wanting to be seen.
7. Yet they even withhold from others basic things for normal, everyday use.108 Abounding Goodness
In the name of God, the Merciful, the Gracious; full of compassion & always giving of his grace & mercy
We have delegated abounding goodness for you, Muhammad.
2. So pray to your Lord, God, bless His name and sacrifice for Him.
3. Whoever hates you will be cut off from Him.109 The Unfaithful
In the name of God, the Merciful, the Gracious; full of compassion & always giving of his grace & mercy
Muhammad say You who have no faith in me,
2. I do not serve what you serve,
3 nor do you serve what I serve.
4. I will not serve what you serve,
5. And nor will you serve who I serve.
6. To you your way and to me, mine.110 Help
In the name of God, the Merciful, the Gracious; full of compassion & always giving of his grace & mercy
Muhammad, when God?s help arrives with victory and an open way,
2. and you see people enter into God's discipline group after group,
3. give glory to your Lord, God, with praise and seek His forgiveness. He has truly been constant in turning to you with favor and mercy.111 The Flame-bound.
In the name of God, the Merciful, the Gracious; full of compassion & always giving of his grace & mercy
The powers and resources of the flame-bound will perish and they too will perish.
2. Their wealth will not free them in anyway, nor anything they have acquired.
3. They will roast in a fire with a blazing flame.
4. And their wives, who constantly feed that flame,
5.their necks will be wrapped with a rope of kindling from palm fronds.112 Pure Dedication
In the name of God, the Merciful, the Gracious; full of compassion & always giving of his grace & mercy
Muhammad, say "He is God; indivisible.
2. God, The chief, the supreme, Crucial to all.
3. He has never given birth, and he has never been born.
4. There is no one comparable to Him, or as competent as He."113 Daybreak
In the name of God, the Merciful, the Gracious; full of compassion & always giving of his grace & mercy.
Muhammad, say "I take refuge in the lord of daybreak as it breaks through
2. from the evil and harm of what He has created and set in place,
3. From the harm of blinding darkness whenever it falls,
4. from the harm of those who constantly spit on their oaths#,
5. and from the harm and evil of the envious when their envy possesses them.114 Humanity
In the name of God, the Merciful, the Gracious; full of compassion & always giving of his grace & mercy.
Muhammad, say ?I take refuge in the Lord of all humanity,
2. the king of all humanity,
3. and the god of all humanity,
4. from the evil and harm of those who whisper and withdraw,
5. whispering into the minds and hearts of men,
6. among people and things hidden to the eye.Al-feelu can also mean confusion & doubt.
This can refer to hordes of camels, birds or it can be eluding to angels or any group of unkown troops/forces.
See footnote 11 and footnote 17.
Alsaifu modernly used as summer in Old Arabic can also mean spring.
Naffathaatun is feminine plural, however this can be referring to women or people who constantly spit, for instance &allaamatun pl. &allaamaatun (a very knowledgeable person/scholar) is the intensive of &allaamun and &allamoona.
Hijaaratun can also mean a form of imprisonment and restriction, according to the CA meaning of Hajara and the Arabic form fi&aal and the use of femininization of nouns.
Godbless,
Anwar -
Peace,
Al-feelu can also mean confusion & doubt.
What?s your evidence for above meaning and not ?the elephant? as used/understood historically?
Read history of chess first called Shatranj referenced by Hindu ambassador who came to Persia from India during reign of Naushirawan (Chosroes I, 531 - 579 CE) which afterwards the game spread to Arabs.
http//www.chessvariants.org/piececlopedia.dir/alfil.html
"As Murray reports in his Short History of Chess, the game hardly changed when the Muslims got it from the Persians. So the Persian pil lept two spaces diagonally. Murray reports in the same book that the Muslims merely modified the name of the piece to suit their own pronunciation, changing the p to an f for the word fil, which became the piece's Arab name. This got prefixed with the Arabic definite article, al, to form the name Alfil.
When the names of fil and alfil reached Europe, they sometimes changed even more, but the transformed names eventually became associated with the Bishop. Although the name of Alfil is still used for the Bishop in some languages, such as Spanish, English-speakers began the tradition of reserving the name Alfil for the original piece."
http//history.chess.free.fr/images/shatranj/fil-7-8th-mma.jpg
Fil (Elephant/Bishop), origin unknown (Iran, Irak, India?), 7th-8th c.?, The Metropolitan Museum of Art
-
Peace,
What?s your evidence for above meaning and not ?the elephant? as used/understood historically?
Read history of chess first called Shatranj referenced by Hindu ambassador who came to Persia from India during reign of Naushirawan (Chosroes I, 531 - 579 CE) which afterwards the game spread to Arabs.
http//www.chessvariants.org/piececlopedia.dir/alfil.html
"As Murray reports in his Short History of Chess, the game hardly changed when the Muslims got it from the Persians. So the Persian pil lept two spaces diagonally. Murray reports in the same book that the Muslims merely modified the name of the piece to suit their own pronunciation, changing the p to an f for the word fil, which became the piece's Arab name. This got prefixed with the Arabic definite article, al, to form the name Alfil.
When the names of fil and alfil reached Europe, they sometimes changed even more, but the transformed names eventually became associated with the Bishop. Although the name of Alfil is still used for the Bishop in some languages, such as Spanish, English-speakers began the tradition of reserving the name Alfil for the original piece."
http//history.chess.free.fr/images/shatranj/fil-7-8th-mma.jpg
Fil (Elephant/Bishop), origin unknown (Iran, Irak, India?), 7th-8th c.?, The Metropolitan Museum of Art
Hi
You seem correct.Al-feel is non-arabic word.And in chess it is "Bishop" which also means Religious clergyman.Possibly this group was a group of religious clergmen = ashaabul feel -
Look up the root fa, ya, lam. In lisaanul-arabi (in addition to elephant) the word also means weakminded, weak or erroneous/having wrong ideas. (i.e. confused.) A man who is feelul-ray'i is a man who has a weak opinion or point of view. In addition as we can see in the Quran, fa&lun and fi&lun can be interchanged within the Classical Arabic grammatical framework. For instance in the Quran we find hajj and hijj used interchangeably. (hijjatun which is not used in the Quran but found in dhul-hijjah, the month, means a certain type of pilgrimage, like meetah as opposed to mawtun would mean a kind of death.). For instance in many dialects when someone dies that sacrifice an animal and that is called fadwah. Although this word would not exist in MSA it is a a valid variant of fidyah within the Classical Arabic context. I wouldn't be suprised if this more dominant usage has its root in its usage in hadeeth literature (which is also in Classical Arabic).
So I am not denying that feel also means elephant. What I am saying is that it has also has innate Arabic meaning based off of the root fayala/faala. And this meaning can also be read into the context of this chapter as weak or wrong ideas about God, hence confusion about God as the idea being conveyed with God being the first topic starting with the basmalah and confusion in ths context relating to God. It can also mean to be fat or huge (like an elephant.)
Godbless,
AnwarI am not trying to argue this at all. This is just the way I know it can be understood. That does not make it the only way.
-
Peace Anwar,
I am glad you chose to translate 'al feel' as something other than 'the elephant'.
And I don't understand what "history" has to do with this. Are we going to translate based on history (which is usually filled with bunch of made-up fairy tales), or what the words are supposed to mean?
In fact, the root Fa-Ayn-Lam never once means an elephant in Al quran. I don't see how 105 would be any different.
-
Peace,
And I don't understand what "history" has to do with this. Are we going to translate based on history (which is usually filled with bunch of made-up fairy tales), or what the words are supposed to mean?
In fact, the root Fa-Ayn-Lam never once means an elephant in Al quran. I don't see how 105 would be any different.
Not about fairy tales. Looking at history of chess pieces, coins, etc., is a non-biased view of how words were understood by the people at the time that did not need or have lexicons or root word dictionaries. When Arabs first saw the elephant piece on the chess board they called it "feel" which indicates the meaning of the word to them back then and still today.
Arabic, Hebrew, are Semitic Languages of the same family tree...
http//www.bartleby.com/61/JPG/tree.jpg
Arabic = feel
Hebrew = peel
Please cite use of word ?feel? in literature or elsewhere to mean other than elephant?
Feel free to use hearsay; don?t really care what it says only interested in word usage.
A similar example looking up meaningless roots for borrowed words such as alrroomu?
302 The Romans have been defeated.
-
Peace,
I just want to make the record clear that the word can also mean elephant but not only elephant. And that is only what I am trying to help others understand. In my actual text I include footnotes making clear the traditional understandings and also putting forth other valid meanings of any particular Quranic passage. I wouldn't say that if the meaning of a root of a word doesn't fit into every Quranic context in that meaning that there is no reason to understand it in a context where it can be understood. I think that both can be validly understood, and that the Quran is full of verses that have historical meanings but also have meanings that transcend time, all possible within that particular passage. There is no need to make life, or the Quran black and white when reality can be many different colors, as long as we are using good logic, sound understandings and sound knowledge (in this case within a Classical Arabic language context and a language context period (understanding things like context, and the use of generalities, absolutes and connecting ideas within the context of any speech written or spoken).
Godbless,
Anwar