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Adam and Eve - the quran says we came from a single creature

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    Mahmud_H
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    Surely this links to 532 "Anyone who kills a person who has not committed murder, or who has not committed corruption in the land; then it is as if he has killed all the people! And whoever spares a life, then it is as if he has given life to all the people."

    Nafs must be contrasted with Ruh, that which does not die. The Ruh-Al-Qudus, holy spirit, that gives life to the universe.

    1528 And your Lord said to the angels "I am creating a human being from a hardened clay."
    1529 "So when I perfect him, and blow of My Spirit in him, you shall yield to him."

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      Meteora
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      Ok, what does the Quran say about how Eve was made? Because the hadith says it was from the rib of Adam, which is false and I think was plagiarized from the bible. Then again a lot of hadith are.

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        Wakas
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        Meteora, erm, you may wish to read through the content of the link I have posted on several of your threads www.misconceptions-about-islam.com

        All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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          Meteora
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          Very sorry. I had a large list of "things to ask" on here and I would usually post a question than go into another thread and post another question, so I usually ask questions before I read the reply to previous ones I've asked.

          Althought I admit, I was hoping to see one of the misconceptions being "Muhammad knew the future" in that link. Sucks it's not there.

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            Wakas
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            Althought I admit, I was hoping to see one of the misconceptions being "Muhammad knew the future" in that link. Sucks it's not there.

            As far as I'm aware that is not a common misconception amongst "non-Muslims". That is likely why it is not there.

            All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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              almarh0m
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              Peace

              Very sorry. I had a large list of "things to ask" on here and I would usually post a question than go into another thread and post another question, so I usually ask questions before I read the reply to previous ones I've asked.

              Althought I admit, I was hoping to see one of the misconceptions being "Muhammad knew the future" in that link. Sucks it's not there.

              Looking a verse that says Prophet Muhammad knew the unseen ( Future ) ? read 650 and there are more if you take time to read your Qur'an brother M .

              Cheers

              almarh0m

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                aynur
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                Peace

                Looking a verse that says Prophet Muhammad knew the unseen ( Future ) ? read 650 and there are more if you take time to read your Qur'an brother M .

                Cheers

                almarh0m

                650 says that Prophet Muhammad (saw) did not know the unseen.

                Say "I tell you not that with me are the Treasures of Allah, nor do I know what is hidden. Nor do I tell you I am an angel. I but follow what is revealed to me." Say "Can the blind be held equal to the seeing?" Will ye then consider not?

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                  Peace

                  650 says that Prophet Muhammad (saw) did not know the unseen.

                  Say "I tell you not that with me are the Treasures of Allah, nor do I know what is hidden. Nor do I tell you I am an angel. I but follow what is revealed to me." Say "Can the blind be held equal to the seeing?" Will ye then consider not?

                  The "Future" is one of the 'unseen' and the prophet clearly stated that in 650 , and there is another verse that says something like "he did not now what will be done to him or to you" .............

                  " Say I am not the first of the messengers, and I do not know what will be done with me or with you I do not follow anything but that which is revealed to me, and I am nothing but a plain warner " ( 469 ) .

                  Hope this helps .

                  Peace

                  almarh0m

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                    Fahad1
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                    Salaam alaikum.

                    Ok, what does the Quran say about how Eve was made? Because the hadith says it was from the rib of Adam, which is false and I think was plagiarized from the bible. Then again a lot of hadith are.

                    IMHO, Adam was created from (the so called)"Eve", and not the other way around.

                    In verse 4/1, the "nafsun wahidatun/single person" from which mankind originated is gendered female. Verse 3/59 also confirms this according to which the example of Eesa is like the example of Adam(3/59), (at least in the manner that both have been created from a woman alone, a "nafsun wahidatun", each)

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                      Meteora
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                      Peace

                      The "Future" is one of the 'unseen' and the prophet clearly stated that in 650 , and there is another verse that says something like "he did not now what will be done to him or to you" .............

                      " Say I am not the first of the messengers, and I do not know what will be done with me or with you I do not follow anything but that which is revealed to me, and I am nothing but a plain warner " ( 469 ) .

                      Hope this helps .

                      Peace

                      almarh0m

                      Interesting, yet there's all this stupid bull in the hadith about future events from Muhammad's mouth. I like how Sunni's reject the Quran for stupid satanic crap.

                      Salaam alaikum.

                      IMHO, Adam was created from (the so called)"Eve", and not the other way around.

                      In verse 4/1, the "nafsun wahidatun/single person" from which mankind originated is gendered female. Verse 3/59 also confirms this according to which the example of Eesa is like the example of Adam(3/59), (at least in the manner that both have been created from a woman alone, a "nafsun wahidatun", each)

                      Awesome but, I recall a verse in the Quran saying about Adam "and created from it it's mate" meaning God created Adam and Eve from him. I'm not quite sure about this obviously and I'm kinda in a hurry so...p

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                        No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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                        Interesting, yet there's all this stupid bull in the hadith about future events from Muhammad's mouth. I like how Sunni's reject the Quran for stupid satanic crap.
                        Awesome but, I recall a verse in the Quran saying about Adam "and created from it it's mate" meaning God created Adam and Eve from him. I'm not quite sure about this obviously and I'm kinda in a hurry so...p

                        Doesnt it say "we created you from one soul" or something like that?

                        I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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                          Awesome but, I recall a verse in the Quran saying about Adam "and created from it it's mate" meaning God created Adam and Eve from him. I'm not quite sure about this obviously and I'm kinda in a hurry so...p

                          That's the same verse, 4/1. It says "O people, be aware of your rabb, who created you from single person and created min ha zawja ha(from HER HER mate)

                          min=from
                          HA=HER

                          zawja=mate
                          HA=HER

                          This shows that the original person was a woman, not a man.

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                            Meteora
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                            Srsly? That's ownage then...

                            Because you'll find only in the bible (corrupt Christian book) and the hadith (corrupt Islamic book) statements about the woman being created from one of Adam's crooked ribs. They go hand in hand. Some men don't like the fact that it's the other way around and seek to subjugate women.

                            Though why am I the first to hear this? If Adam was the first human, how could he have had a mother? Wasn't he created from dust/clay? How is he then an offspring?

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                              huruf
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                              Zawjaha; the feminine refer to nafs, which is feminine gender.

                              Salaam

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                                Samia
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                                Salaam alaikum.

                                IMHO, Adam was created from (the so called)"Eve", and not the other way around.

                                In verse 4/1, the "nafsun wahidatun/single person" from which mankind originated is gendered female. Verse 3/59 also confirms this according to which the example of Eesa is like the example of Adam(3/59), (at least in the manner that both have been created from a woman alone, a "nafsun wahidatun", each)

                                This is an interesting observation, confirmed by verse 7189

                                He it is Who did create you from a single soul, and therefrom did make her mate that he might take rest in her. And when he covered her she bore a light burden, and she passed (unnoticed) with it, but when it became heavy they cried unto Allah, their Lord, saying If thou givest unto us aright we shall be of the thankful.

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                                  Samia
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                                  Zawjaha; the feminine refer to nafs, which is feminine gender.

                                  Salaam

                                  You are right, this verse is not gender-specific. But the really gender-specific/gendered verse is 7189

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                                    huruf
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                                    7.189.

                                    7.190

                                    7.189. He is the One who created you from one person, and He made from it its mate to reside with. When he covered her, she carried a light load, and she continued with it; then when it became heavy, they called on God, their Lord ?If You give us an upright child, then we will be among the thankful.?
                                    7190 But when He gave them an upright child, they made partners with Him in what He had given them. God be exalted above what they set up as partners.

                                    Here are them 7.189 and 7.190 What do you people make of them?

                                    For those who do not read any Arabic I point out that the upright child corresponds to the Arabic "saalih".

                                    Saalij from dictionnary good, right, proper, sound; thoruugh, substantial, downright, out-and-out, solid; virtuous, pious, devout, godly; usable, useful, practicable, serviceable, fitting, suitable, appropriate...

                                    Salaam

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                                      Samia
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                                      There is a slight error in the English translation (quoted by huruf and me)

                                      ...that he might take rest in her so when he covered her...

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                                        Meteora
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                                        Still confused as all hell.

                                        If it's referring to "nafs" and is not "gender specific" then what's all this talk about the female being before the male?

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                                          Meteora
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                                          Hi.

                                          Quran says God created man from clay.

                                          Yet says the spouse of the woman (I guess Adam) was created from her...

                                          So...he was clay inside the woman?

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