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    Hati
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    Salam,

    When GOD's servant advocated Him alone, almost all of them banded together to oppose him.

    as people say perhaps Muhammad ;Dperhaps Rashad Grin but I say Perhapd Abdallah yeahright

    the Abdallah name is a loved and popular name in the arabic countries even with the Jews people( Israel) they like this name because the Israel name meant Abdallah in the ebrew language .

    the gematrical value of the Word Abdallah 142 ( Ain = 70 , Ba= 2 , Da = 4 , Alef = 1 , lam = 30 , Lam = 30 , Ha = 5 ) = (7+0+2+4+1+3+0+3+0+5 = 25 = (19+30 ) = 25+1+9+3+0 = 38 + (72+19) = 38 +7+2+1+9 = 57 (19*3)
    also egual

    chapter 19 verse 30

    (The infant spoke and) said, "I am a servant of GOD. He has given me the scripture, and has appointed me a prophet.

    chapter 72 verse 19

    When GOD's servant advocated Him alone, almost all of them banded together to oppose him.
    the gematrical value of the word Abdallah is 142

    '1930' +'7219'+'142' = 9291 (19*489)

    ok another proof

    Quran says chapter 74 verse 30 " Over it is nineteen " you didn't see that the Abdallah's name is mentioned on the

    verset number 19 chapter 72 (1+9+7+2) = 19 (19*1) ?

    ok

    the gematrical value of the verse " Over it is nineteen " is 1221 and the gematrical value of the word Abdallah is 142

    (74+30 +1221) +( 72+19+142 ) = (1558 ) (1982) also (1+5+5+ = 19 (191)

    the gematrical value of the first revelation is 5809 the gematrical value of the verse " Over it is nineteen " is 1221

    Read, in the name of your Lord, who created.*

    He created man from an embryo.

    Read, and your Lord, Most Exalted.

    Teaches by means of the pen.

    He teaches man what he never knew.

    (5809 +1221 ) = 7030 (19*370)

    on the first revelation there are 19 words (191) and 76 letters (194) God is choose this language ( mathematics) for to undesrtand his message

    Dear brother and sister in the God's submission I would inform you that the world is become a small village I think I say I think God would send two other messengers for confirming his scripture and that Rashad Khalifa wasn't a liar or a dejall as the disbelievers says, I hope you study and study the Quran because it's the only source for having a peace life and be sure dear brothers and sisters that Our Kingdom it's not on this earth it's in the eternal life , I hope you will be there all as queens and kings .

    Cite for them the example of people in a community that received the messengers.

    the world is become a small village sun

    When we sent to them two (messengers), they disbelieved them. We then supported them by a third. They said, "We are (God's) messengers to you."

    Assuming that you have mathematically proven that Abdallah is a name of person in those verses, let us insert the name not the meaning of that name

    Transliteration
    Qala innee AAabdu Allahi ataniya alkitaba wajaAAalanee nabiyyan

    Arberry
    He said, 'Lo, I am God's servant; God has given me the Book, and made me a Prophet.

    Khalifa (why is he here?)
    (The infant spoke and) said, "I am a servant of GOD. He has given me the scripture, and has appointed me a prophet.

    Noble Verse(s) 7219

    Transliteration
    Waannahu lamma qama AAabdu Allahi yadAAoohu kadoo yakoonoona AAalayhi libadan

    Arberry
    When Abdallah stood calling on Him, they were wellnigh upon him in swarms.

    Khalifa
    When Abdallah advocated Him alone, almost all of them banded together to oppose him.

    So be it, because Muhammad's name is not translated do the same for other names you believe is in Quran. It would be a double standard that other names are translated but for other prophets their names are not translated.

    Like the following

    Yusuf Ali
    Say "I know not whether the (Punishment) which ye are promised is near, or whether my Lord will appoint for it a distant term.

    "He (alone) knows the Unseen, nor does He make any one acquainted with His Mysteries,-

    "Except an apostle whom He has chosen and then He makes a band of rasadan march before him and behind him,

    "That He may know that they have (truly) brought and delivered the Messages of their Lord and He surrounds (all the mysteries) that are with them, and takes account of every single thing."

    Transliteration
    Qul in adree aqareebun ma tooAAadoona am yajAAalu lahu rabbee amadan

    AAalimu alghaybi fala yuthhiru AAala ghaybihi ahadan

    Illa mani irtada min rasoolin fa-innahu yasluku min bayni yadayhi wamin khalfihi rasadan

    LiyaAAlama an qad ablaghoo risalati rabbihim waahata bima ladayhim waahsa kulla shay-in AAadadan

    Arberry
    Say 'I do not know whether that which you are promised is nigh, or whether my Lord will appoint for it a space;

    Knower He of the Unseen, and He discloses not His Unseen to anyone,

    save only to such a Messenger as He is well-pleased with; then He despatches before him and behind him rasadan,

    that He may know they have delivered the Messages of their Lord; and He encompasses all that is with them, and He has numbered everything in numbers.'

    Khalifa
    Say, "I do not know if what is promised to you will happen soon, or if my Lord will delay it for awhile."

    He is the Knower of the future; He does not reveal the future to anyone.

    Illa mani irtada min rasoolin fa-innahu yasluku min bayni yadayhi wamin khalfihi rasadan

    Only to a messenger that He chooses, does He reveal from the past and the future, rasadan.

    This is to ascertain that they have delivered their Lord's messages. He is fully aware of what they have. He has counted the numbers of all things.

    God bless you

    Hati

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      Salam Hati,

      Yes in mathematics there are n! different ways you can arrange the n letters!

      I agree with you, the book clearly refers to the record on the day of judgment

      Thanks for agreeing and for staying on topic and answering the original question.

      Peace jonny_k,

      JK- NO it is NOT a lie and ive clearly explained why. You dont even bother to read the explanations.

      JK- BECAUSE THOSE ARE UNNUMBERED VERSES AND THE WORDS IN THEM ARE NOT TO BE COUNTED. Now how do we know this? We know this BECAUSE IT WORKS FOR ALL THE ATTRIBUTES MENTIONED IN THE BISMILLAH. If we had to include 20...1140... whilst counting "rahman" or "raheem" or both then the count of "allah" being 2698 would be unjustified BUT THAT IS NOT THE CASE. The point is to stay consistent once you use a method stick to it. Man i explained this in so much detail yet you ask the same thing again and again. Reg 9129 it violates other parts of the mathematical pattern for which youll have to study http//www.submission.org/tampering.html and connect the dots. GOD Bless!

      Tampering NOT allowed!

      That We, We descended the reminder/remembrance, and that We (are) for it, protectors/guards.

      1. Numbering is INCONSISTENT 1st Surah 11?last Surah 10
      2. Numbering is INNOVATION not part of Qur?an or recital
      3. Numbering is ONLY for quick reference
      4. EXCLUDED when counting words Bismi Allhi Ar-Ramni Ar-Rami
      5. INCLUDED when counting initials
      6. UNNUMBERED VERSES AND THE WORDS IN THEM ARE NOT TO BE COUNTED ?
        means (2) Bismi Allhi Ar-Ramni Ar-Rami NOT (114)
      7. CONSISTENT is then to omit all 112 Bismi Allhi Ar-Ramni Ar-Rami

      This leaves us with?
      9129? say "All?h is sufficient for me. L? il?ha illa Huwa?" ? omitted

      We are now finished and continue to omit ALL other words in Qur?an which are NOT multiples of 19.

      Desired OUTPUT = Manipulated INPUT
      http//www.learnenglish.org.uk/games/magic-gopher-central.swf

      Presto!

      This is becoming redundant and exhausting so please excuse me if don?t reply to this thread anymore.

      Peace

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        Peace "nun de plume",

        Peace jonny_k,

        Tampering NOT allowed!

        JK- As ive explained before the tampering was unsuccessful BUT IT WAS ATTEMPTED. You say Quran is only recital. Ok lets go fwith that for a moment. I ca recite something other than the Quran and call it Quran. Eg i could after reciting sura 1 verse 77 "siraatallazeena 'an amta 'alaihim, ghairil mahdoobi 'alihim wala daaleen", recite an additional statement like 78 "la ta'abudoona illa allahi ahada fa in kuntum minal fassiqeen(do not worship anyone besides GOD lest you become extreme wrongdoers)". This would make perfect logical sense, woudlnt contradict the Message of the Quran in any way. Could easily be accepted as Quran. BUT it isnt. Get the point now?

        That We, We descended the reminder/remembrance, and that We (are) for it, protectors/guards.

        1. Numbering is INCONSISTENT 1st Surah 11?last Surah 10
        2. Numbering is INNOVATION not part of Qur?an or recital
        3. Numbering is ONLY for quick reference
        4. EXCLUDED when counting words Bismi Allhi Ar-Ramni Ar-Rami
        5. INCLUDED when counting initials
        6. UNNUMBERED VERSES AND THE WORDS IN THEM ARE NOT TO BE COUNTED ?
          means (2) Bismi Allhi Ar-Ramni Ar-Rami NOT (114)
        7. CONSISTENT is then to omit all 112 Bismi Allhi Ar-Ramni Ar-Rami

        This leaves us with?
        9129? say "All?h is sufficient for me. L? il?ha illa Huwa?" ? omitted

        We are now finished and continue to omit ALL other words in Qur?an which are NOT multiples of 19.

        Desired OUTPUT = Manipulated INPUT
        http//www.learnenglish.org.uk/games/magic-gopher-central.swf

        Presto!

        This is becoming redundant and exhausting so please excuse me if don?t reply to this thread anymore.

        Peace

        JK- Alright please just answer the following questions and maybe somehting will click in your mind

        a) How do you know what is part of the Quran and what isnt? How do you what the Quran even is? As i said people recite many Qurans in various different accents as well as vaiants in grammar which can be seen especially if we compare the hafs to the warsh RECITATIONS.
        b) Did you ever wonder why the Quran mentions so many numbers eg Noah living amongst his people for 1000 LESS 50 years, the sleepers in the cave staying there 300 PLUS 9 years, 7 heavens, angels carrying out the command of GOD in a period/day the count of which being 50,000 years, one period/day of GOD being equal to 1000 years of our count? Are these number there for fun or poetry(Note the Quran states it is NOT poetry).
        c) Why does the Quran also refer to itself as the Book if its only a recital?
        d) Why does even the oldest available manuscript contain spaces between what ?s considered as verses and coicnidentally those form part of a pattern? e) Why is a significant no of initial ltters found in their respective chapters in xples of 19, particularly the two suras which are ininialed Qaaf BOTH having 57 Qaafs and the Quran having 114 chapters.
        f) Is the significance of "zan-noon" and 681 not clear enough or coincidental?
        g) Is the fact that the GVs of four other attributes than the Bismillahs correspond exactly to the ok lets say even claimed counts of the words in the Bismillah a sheer coincidence? Please note that this discovery was made LONG after RK had counted the four words in the Bismillah. It only confirmed his counts regarding these terms.
        h) Have you ever wondered why sura 9 is NOT PRECEDED by a Bismillah BUT AT THE SAME TIME theres an extra Bismillah found in Chapter 27(19 chapters from sura 9) verse 30 restoring the no of Bimillahs back to 114(19x6) as the number of chapters?

        To answer your points 4&5 i already told you that such a distinction is necessary IF the 112 Bismillahs other than 2730 and 11 have a certain diffeent property which is that theyr unnumbered. Here GOD is apparently making this distinction. And just because words and letters have a different counting method doesnt make it insignificant. They are two different things each having it's own method and the method used consistently amongst each item so theres no problem and it remains significant. GOD Bless!

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          Peace jonny_k,

          JK- As ive explained before the tampering was unsuccessful BUT IT WAS ATTEMPTED. You say Quran is only recital. Ok lets go fwith that for a moment. I ca recite something other than the Quran and call it Quran. Eg i could after reciting sura 1 verse 77 "siraatallazeena 'an amta 'alaihim, ghairil mahdoobi 'alihim wala daaleen", recite an additional statement like 78 "la ta'abudoona illa allahi ahada fa in kuntum minal fassiqeen(do not worship anyone besides GOD lest you become extreme wrongdoers)". This would make perfect logical sense, woudlnt contradict the Message of the Quran in any way. Could easily be accepted as Quran. BUT it isnt. Get the point now?

          JK- Alright please just answer the following questions and maybe somehting will click in your mind

          a) How do you know what is part of the Quran and what isnt? How do you what the Quran even is? As i said people recite many Qurans in various different accents as well as vaiants in grammar which can be seen especially if we compare the hafs to the warsh RECITATIONS.

          Tomayto Tomahto is still a Tomato
          http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVvyUKOwwwU

          Likewise someone can try to change the easily memorized Do-Re-Me-Fa-So-La-Ti-Do.

          Bismi Allhi Ar-Ramni Ar-Rami
          Alif-Lam-Meem

          To

          Bismi Allhi Ar-Rami Ar-Ramni
          Meem Lam Alif

          All the 19 stuff remains unchanged, yet they?ll stand corrected by those who remember and Qur?an was/is preserved in recital, a commandment from God since beginning?

          Certainly, We have made this easy in your tongue, in order that they may remember. (445
          And We have indeed made the Quran easy to understand and remember, then is there any that will remember? (5417)
          And We have indeed made the Quran easy to understand and remember, then is there any that will remember? (5422)
          And We have indeed made the Quran easy to understand and remember, then is there any that will remember? (5432)
          And We have indeed made the Quran easy to understand and remember, then is there any that will remember? (5440)

          Please open separate topics for the rest of the why, why, why...

          Peace

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            Sorry for the late reply, but Jonny K, Quran calls itself the book / al kitab???

            Where?

            22 doesn't have 'this', it has 'that' / thalik.

            The Quran clarifies/details Al kitab/ the book, which ALREADY existed. (1037).

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              Let's not forget the books ingrained people's heads, and one last example

              1132 has only 4 words = 4! (Factorial) = 4x3x2x1 = 24 sentences with the same code 19 values.

              Below are only 3 of the possible 24; please try and tell us which is correct?

              Min ma sharri khalaqa
              From what evil He created

              Min sharri ma khalaqa
              From evil what He created

              Min ma khalaqa sharri
              From what He created evil

              Likewise the last verse in al-Fatihah 17 has 9 words = 9! = 362,880 possible sentences.

              Perhaps try scrambling/shifting the 70 or so words in inheritance verse 411 to view impact.

              That's 70 ! = 1.19785717 ? 10^100 different possible sentences with same Geometrical Value!

              http//www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=active&q=70%21

              I believe this point is made clear.

              Peace

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                unknownuser
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                Salam,

                Assuming that you have mathematically proven that Abdallah is a name of person in those verses, let us insert the name not the meaning of that name

                Transliteration
                Qala innee AAabdu Allahi ataniya alkitaba wajaAAalanee nabiyyan

                Arberry
                He said, 'Lo, I am God's servant; God has given me the Book, and made me a Prophet.

                Khalifa (why is he here?)
                (The infant spoke and) said, "I am a servant of GOD. He has given me the scripture, and has appointed me a prophet.

                Noble Verse(s) 7219

                Transliteration
                Waannahu lamma qama AAabdu Allahi yadAAoohu kadoo yakoonoona AAalayhi libadan

                Arberry
                When Abdallah stood calling on Him, they were wellnigh upon him in swarms.

                Khalifa
                When Abdallah advocated Him alone, almost all of them banded together to oppose him.

                So be it, because Muhammad's name is not translated do the same for other names you believe is in Quran. It would be a double standard that other names are translated but for other prophets their names are not translated.

                Like the following

                Yusuf Ali
                Say "I know not whether the (Punishment) which ye are promised is near, or whether my Lord will appoint for it a distant term.

                "He (alone) knows the Unseen, nor does He make any one acquainted with His Mysteries,-

                "Except an apostle whom He has chosen and then He makes a band of rasadan march before him and behind him,

                "That He may know that they have (truly) brought and delivered the Messages of their Lord and He surrounds (all the mysteries) that are with them, and takes account of every single thing."

                Transliteration
                Qul in adree aqareebun ma tooAAadoona am yajAAalu lahu rabbee amadan

                AAalimu alghaybi fala yuthhiru AAala ghaybihi ahadan

                Illa mani irtada min rasoolin fa-innahu yasluku min bayni yadayhi wamin khalfihi rasadan

                LiyaAAlama an qad ablaghoo risalati rabbihim waahata bima ladayhim waahsa kulla shay-in AAadadan

                Arberry
                Say 'I do not know whether that which you are promised is nigh, or whether my Lord will appoint for it a space;

                Knower He of the Unseen, and He discloses not His Unseen to anyone,

                save only to such a Messenger as He is well-pleased with; then He despatches before him and behind him rasadan,

                that He may know they have delivered the Messages of their Lord; and He encompasses all that is with them, and He has numbered everything in numbers.'

                Khalifa
                Say, "I do not know if what is promised to you will happen soon, or if my Lord will delay it for awhile."

                He is the Knower of the future; He does not reveal the future to anyone.

                Illa mani irtada min rasoolin fa-innahu yasluku min bayni yadayhi wamin khalfihi rasadan

                Only to a messenger that He chooses, does He reveal from the past and the future, rasadan.

                This is to ascertain that they have delivered their Lord's messages. He is fully aware of what they have. He has counted the numbers of all things.

                God bless you

                Hati

                Shalom Hati

                be sure that the God's messengers who will come after Muhammad their name will be proptect and coded by the number 19 , because Quran says " Over it is nineteen" for the Abdallah name in the Quran from the begining I told you this name is a popular name in the arabic countries even in the Turkey, also my name is Abdallah , I wasn't named by my parents , i was named by the angels, for the Andallah name in the Quran , in the chapter 19 verse 30 Quran says

                (The infant spoke and) said, "I am a servant of GOD. He has given me the scripture, and has appointed me a prophet.
                in the chapter 34 Quran tell us who is that servant
                That was Jesus, the son of Mary, and this is the truth of this matter, about which they continue to doubt.
                HE IS JESUS OR THAT WAS JESUS

                but the Question now in the chapter 72 verse 19 , who is that servant , the muslim scholars , said it's about

                Mohammad , and some submitters said it's about Rashad , but in the same Chapter , the Quran didn't tell to us who is

                that servant , Quran says only , When GOD's servant advocated Him alone, almost all of them banded together to oppose him. sun
                by the way if you check the rashad word you will find that is repeated 19 times also for the Prophet name is coded and if you want proofs I'm ready for to share with you and with with our brothers and sisters other proofs sun

                Shalom

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                  Shalom Hati

                  be sure that the God's messengers who will come after Muhammad their name will be proptect and coded by the number 19 , because Quran says " Over it is nineteen" for the Abdallah name in the Quran from the begining I told you this name is a popular name in the arabic countries even in the Turkey, also my name is Abdallah , I wasn't named by my parents , i was named by the angels, for the Andallah name in the Quran , in the chapter 19 verse 30 Quran says

                  (The infant spoke and) said, "I am a servant of GOD. He has given me the scripture, and has appointed me a prophet.
                  in the chapter 34 Quran tell us who is that servant
                  That was Jesus, the son of Mary, and this is the truth of this matter, about which they continue to doubt.
                  HE IS JESUS OR THAT WAS JESUS

                  but the Question now in the chapter 72 verse 19 , who is that servant , the muslim scholars , said it's about

                  Mohammad , and some submitters said it's about Rashad , but in the same Chapter , the Quran didn't tell to us who is

                  that servant , Quran says only , When GOD's servant advocated Him alone, almost all of them banded together to oppose him. sun
                  by the way if you check the rashad word you will find that is repeated 19 times also for the Prophet name is coded and if you want proofs I'm ready for to share with you and with with our brothers and sisters other proofs sun

                  Shalom

                  Shalom

                  in this work I will confirm to you by another proof that the Quran is a wonderful book , in this work I will give to you proofs that Rashad Khalifa was a messenger, also I will give to you another proof that the Abdallah name which is mentioned in the chapter 72 verse 19 , wasn't talking about Muhammad either Rashad, Please use your mind and your wisdom for to understand this discovery .

                  In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful

                  " Over it is nineteen "

                  *the first Revelation chapter 96 the Embryo " Al-ALAQ "

                  Read, in the name of your Lord, who created.*

                  He created man from an embryo.

                  Read, and your Lord, Most Exalted.

                  Teaches by means of the pen.

                  He teaches man what he never knew.

                  1 2 3 4 5

                  on the first revelation there are 19 words and 76 letters the letters of the verse " Over it is nineteen " is mentioned 44 times by 6 letters " Ain , Lam, Ya , Alef , Sin , Ra " the Gematrical value of these letters is " Ain = 70 , Lam = 30 , Ya = 10 , Alef = 1 , Sin = 60 , Ra = 200 "

                  The result ;

                  (96)+(1+2+3+4+5) +(19+76)+(44)+(6)+(70+30+10+1+60+200) = 627 (19*33)

                  the word the proof

                  *the first revelation 96

                  Read, in the name of your Lord, who created.*

                  He created man from an embryo.

                  Read, and your Lord, Most Exalted.

                  Teaches by means of the pen.

                  He teaches man what he never knew.

                  1 2 3 4 5

                  The letters of the word " The proof " is mentioned 41 times on the first revelation " Alef 15 , Lam 14 , Ba4 , Ya 3 , Nun 5 "

                  the result ;

                  (41+15+96 ) = 152 (19*

                  *The first revelation chapter 96

                  Read, in the name of your Lord, who created.*

                  He created man from an embryo.

                  Read, and your Lord, Most Exalted.

                  Teaches by means of the pen.

                  He teaches man what he never knew

                  1 2 3 4 5

                  if we will not repeat the letters of the first revelation we get 14 letters " Alef , Qaf , Ra, Ba, Sin , Meem, Kaf , Lam , Dhal , Nun , Ain , Waw , The gematrical value of these letters is " Alef 1 , Qaf 100 , Ra 200 , Sin 60 , Meem 40 , Kaf 20 , Lam 30 , Dhal 700 , Nun 50 , Ain 70 , Waw 6 "

                  The result ;

                  (96)+(1+2+3+4+5)+(14)+(1+100+200+60+40+20+30+700+50+70+6) = 2014 ( 19*106)

                  • The verse In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful

                  The verse " In The Name Of God Most Gracious , Most Merciful " is mentioned in the chapter 1 verse 1 and in the chapter 27 verse 30 , if we don't repeat the letters of this verse we get 10 letters " Ba, Sin , Meem , Alef , Lam , Ra , Ha , Nun , Ya , Ha " the gematrical value of these letters is ( Ba 2, Sin 60, Meem 40 , Alef 1 , lam 30, Ra 200 , Ha 5 , Nun 50 , ya 10 , Ha 5 )

                  The result

                  (1+1)+(27+30)+(10)+(2+60+40+1+30+200+5+50+10+5) = 475 (19*25)

                  • the Abdallah name is mentioned in the chapter 72 verse 19
                    " When GOD's servant advocated Him alone, almost all of them banded together to oppose him. if we don't repeat the letters of the Abdallah word we get 6 letters " Ain , Ba, Da, Alef , Lam , Ha " The gematrical value of thses letters is ( Ain 70 , Ba 2 , Da 4 , Alef 1 , Lam 30 , Ha 5 )

                  The result

                  (73+19)+(6)+(70+2+4+1+30+5) = 209 (19*11)

                  Over it is nineteen.*

                  the Abdallah's letters in repeated on the verse " Over it is nineteen 6 times by 3
                  letters " Ain , Lam , Ha " The gematrical value of these letters is " Ain 70 , Lam 30 , Ha 5 "

                  The result

                  (6)+(3)+(70+30+5) = 114 (196)
                  also
                  (114+Gematrical value of teh word Abdallah 142 + chapter 72 +verse 19 +Gematrical value of the verse " Over it is nineteen " 1221 " +chpater 74 +verse 30 ) = 1672 (19
                  88 )

                  the word " The proof "

                  Chapter 72 verse 19

                  the letters of the Abdallah letters is reptead on the word " The Proof " 3 times by 3 letters (Alef , lam , Ha ) The gematrical value of these letters is ( Alef 1, Lam 30 , Ha 5 )

                  the result

                  ( 72+19)+(3)+(3)+(1+30+5) = 133 (19*7)

                  the word Say

                  5 chapters begin by the word Say and in these chapters there are 9 verse begin by the word say ,

                  Chapter 72

                  Say, "I was inspired that a group of jinns listened, then said, `We have heard a wonderful Quran.

                  7220] Say, "I worship only my Lord; I never set up any idols beside Him."

                  Say, "I possess no power to harm you, nor to guide you."

                  Say, "No one can protect me from GOD, nor can I find any other refuge beside Him.

                  Say, "I do not know if what is promised to you will happen soon, or if my Lord will delay it for awhile

                  Chapter 109

                  Say, "O you disbelievers.

                  Chapter 112

                  Proclaim, "He is the One and only GOD.

                  Chapter 113

                  Say, "I seek refuge in the Lord of daybreak.

                  Chapter 114

                  Say, "I seek refuge in the Lord of the people.

                  (5+9) + (72+1+20+21+22+25) + (109+1) + (112+1) + (113+1) + (114+1) = 627 (19*33)

                  the gematrical value of the Prophet name Ahmad and Muhammad " 53 and 92 " (5+3+9+2 ) = 19 (19*1)

                  God asked the prophet for to say for example " I seek refuge in the Lord of the people

                  6279253 = 19*330487

                  the bgematrical value of the Rashad word is 505 and the Gematrical value of the Abdallah word is 142

                  627505142 = 19*33026586

                  the letters of the word Say is reptead in these 9 verse 76 times (19*4)

                  the letters of the Rashad word is repeated on these 9 verse (1+20+21+22+25+72)+(1+109)+(1+112)+(1+113)+(1+114) 76 times there are 5 chapters
                  (9+1+20+21+22+25+72+1+109+1+112+1+113+1+114+ 76 ) = 703 (19*37)

                  I prefer to stop here because I can't publish all thing I would inform you that Rashad Khalifa wasn't the last messenger and the world is become too small as a small village

                  Cite for them the example of people in a community that received the messengers.

                  When we sent to them two (messengers), they disbelieved them. We then supported them by a third. They said, "We are (God's) messengers to you."

                  Bible

                  .

                  Corinthiens 13

                  Je vais chez vous pour la troisi?me fois. Toute affaire se r?glera sur la d?claration de deux ou de trois t?moins.

                  Bible

                  I go at your place for the third time. All matter will regulate itself on the declaration of two or of three witnesses.

                  for the people who don't understand the arabic anguage they can ask their brothers and sisters on this forum for to confirm my works, also they can to ask me

                  Shalom
                  Abdallah 142

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                    Greetings,

                    ...also I will give to you another proof that the Abdallah name which is mentioned in the chapter 72 verse 19 , wasn't talking about Muhammad either Rashad, Please use your mind and your wisdom for to understand this discovery .

                    Likewise ABDALLAH7219 (aka gv 142), use your mind and wisdom to understand.

                    on the first revelation there are 19 words and 76 letters the letters of the verse " Over it is nineteen " is mentioned 44 times by 6 letters " Ain , Lam, Ya , Alef , Sin , Ra " the Gematrical value of these letters is " Ain = 70 , Lam = 30 , Ya = 10 , Alef = 1 , Sin = 60 , Ra = 200 "

                    The result ;

                    (96)+(1+2+3+4+5) +(19+76)+(44)+(6)+(70+30+10+1+60+200) = 627 (19*33)

                    Ain = 70 , Lam = 30 , Ya = 10 , Alef = 1 , Sin = 60 , Ra = 200

                    6! Factorial = 720 different names with same (gv) geometrical value

                    The letters of the word " The proof " is mentioned 41 times on the first revelation " Alef 15 , Lam 14 , Ba4 , Ya 3 , Nun 5 "

                    the result ;

                    (41+15+96 ) = 152 (19*

                    Alef 15 , Lam 14 , Ba4 , Ya 3 , Nun 5

                    5! factorial = 120 different names with same gv

                    if we will not repeat the letters of the first revelation we get 14 letters " Alef , Qaf , Ra, Ba, Sin , Meem, Kaf , Lam , Dhal , Nun , Ain , Waw , The gematrical value of these letters is " Alef 1 , Qaf 100 , Ra 200 , Sin 60 , Meem 40 , Kaf 20 , Lam 30 , Dhal 700 , Nun 50 , Ain 70 , Waw 6 "

                    The result ;

                    (96)+(1+2+3+4+5)+(14)+(1+100+200+60+40+20+30+700+50+70+6) = 2014 ( 19*106)

                    Alef 1 , Qaf 100 , Ra 200 , Sin 60 , Meem 40 , Kaf 20 , Lam 30 , Dhal 700 , Nun 50 , Ain 70 , Waw 6

                    11 ! = 39,916,800 different names with same gv

                    http//www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=strict&client=dell-usuk-rel&channel=us&ad=w5&q=11%21

                    The verse " In The Name Of God Most Gracious , Most Merciful " is mentioned in the chapter 1 verse 1 and in the chapter 27 verse 30 , if we don't repeat the letters of this verse we get 10 letters " Ba, Sin , Meem , Alef , Lam , Ra , Ha , Nun , Ya , Ha " the gematrical value of these letters is ( Ba 2, Sin 60, Meem 40 , Alef 1 , lam 30, Ra 200 , Ha 5 , Nun 50 , ya 10 , Ha 5 )

                    The result

                    (1+1)+(27+30)+(10)+(2+60+40+1+30+200+5+50+10+5) = 475 (19*25)

                    Ba 2, Sin 60, Meem 40 , Alef 1 , lam 30, Ra 200 , Ha 5 , Nun 50 , ya 10 , Ha 5

                    10 ! = 3,628,800 different names with same gv

                    • the Abdallah name is mentioned in the chapter 72 verse 19
                      " When GOD's servant advocated Him alone, almost all of them banded together to oppose him. if we don't repeat the letters of the Abdallah word we get 6 letters " Ain , Ba, Da, Alef , Lam , Ha " The gematrical value of thses letters is ( Ain 70 , Ba 2 , Da 4 , Alef 1 , Lam 30 , Ha 5 )

                    The result

                    (73+19)+(6)+(70+2+4+1+30+5) = 209 (19*11)

                    Ain 70 , Ba 2 , Da 4 , Alef 1 , Lam 30 , Ha 5

                    6! Factorial = 720 different names with same (gv) geometrical value

                    also
                    (114+Gematrical value of teh word Abdallah 142 + chapter 72 +verse 19 +Gematrical value of the verse " Over it is nineteen " 1221 " +chpater 74 +verse 30 ) = 1672 (19*88 )

                    Likewise would billions of other combinations; 114 + (gv of 6! = 720 names) + chapter 72...

                    the word Say

                    5 chapters begin by the word Say and in these chapters there are 9 verse begin by the word say ,

                    The word(s) "Say" appears 938 time(s) in 780 verse(s) in Quran in M. Khan translation.

                    http//www.searchtruth.com/search.php?keyword=Say&chapter=&translator=5&search=1&start=0&records_display=10&search_word=all

                    Perhaps do more reading of the above and less pattern searching.

                    I prefer to stop here because I can't publish all thing I would inform you...

                    Likewise.

                    Peace

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                      Greetings,

                      Likewise ABDALLAH7219 (aka gv 142), use your mind and wisdom to understand.

                      Ain = 70 , Lam = 30 , Ya = 10 , Alef = 1 , Sin = 60 , Ra = 200

                      6! Factorial = 720 different names with same (gv) geometrical value

                      Alef 15 , Lam 14 , Ba4 , Ya 3 , Nun 5

                      5! factorial = 120 different names with same gv

                      Alef 1 , Qaf 100 , Ra 200 , Sin 60 , Meem 40 , Kaf 20 , Lam 30 , Dhal 700 , Nun 50 , Ain 70 , Waw 6

                      11 ! = 39,916,800 different names with same gv

                      http//www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=strict&client=dell-usuk-rel&channel=us&ad=w5&q=11%21

                      Ba 2, Sin 60, Meem 40 , Alef 1 , lam 30, Ra 200 , Ha 5 , Nun 50 , ya 10 , Ha 5

                      10 ! = 3,628,800 different names with same gv

                      Ain 70 , Ba 2 , Da 4 , Alef 1 , Lam 30 , Ha 5

                      6! Factorial = 720 different names with same (gv) geometrical value

                      Likewise would billions of other combinations; 114 + (gv of 6! = 720 names) + chapter 72...

                      The word(s) "Say" appears 938 time(s) in 780 verse(s) in Quran in M. Khan translation.

                      http//www.searchtruth.com/search.php?keyword=Say&chapter=&translator=5&search=1&start=0&records_display=10&search_word=all

                      Perhaps do more reading of the above and less pattern searching.

                      Likewise.

                      Peace

                      Shalom

                      unfortunately you didn't use your mind also I see you've not a good idea on the mathematical miracle code in the Quran , also i see you are against the Abdallah's name in the chapter 72 verse 19 , also I see that you didn't understand the meaning of that work and what I want to prove with .but i think the best way it's to let other people for to check that work for to see their opinion too , but before to let you i would like to give to you another proof about the God's messenger Rashad, and before to forget for the word say in the Quran I said , there are only 5 chapter begin by the word say , Please when you check any work try to read it well before answering .
                      ok now lets to start for studying together this

                      Chapter 98 The proof verse number 2 A messenger from GOD is reciting to them sacred instructions.*
                      I believe that the Quran was revealed to the prophet " Muhammad " without the two false verse ( chapter 9 verse 128 , 129 ) these two satanic verses , after after his departure the people who rewrote the Quran they added these two satanic verses " chapter 9 verse 128 , 129 " after the coming of the messenger Rashad he removed them .

                      the prophet had two names the prophet had two names Ahmad and Muhammad if we don't repeat the letter of these two word we get three letters " Alef , Ha, meem " the letter Alef is repeated 3 times and the letter Ha is repeated 1 time and the letter meem is repeated 2 times and the letteer Da 0 times ,
                      the gematrical value of the letter Alef is 1 the gematrical value of the letter ha is 8 the gematrical value of teh letters meem is 40

                      the gematrical value of the word Muhammad is 92 and the gematrical value of the word Ahmad is 53

                      the result

                      (3+1+2)+(1+8+40)+( 98+2)+(92) = 247 (1913)
                      also
                      (3+1+2+1+8+4+0+9+8+2+9+2+5+3+= 57 (19
                      3)

                      for the word Rashad and Abdallah

                      the letter Ra is repteated 2 times
                      the letter Alef is repteated 3 times
                      the letter lam is repteated 4 times
                      the letter Ha is repeated 2 times
                      the gematrical value of the letter Ra is 200
                      the gematrical value of the letter Alef is 1
                      the gematrical value of the letter lam is 30
                      the gematrical value of the letter Ha is 5

                      the result

                      (2+3+4+2+200+1+30+5) = 247 (19*13)

                      Shalom
                      Israel

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                        If you would kindly take the time to learn about factorials and probabilities then make statements backed up by facts, you would be taken far more seriously. As it stands, if you are ignoring even the most basic of maths, you have little credibility.

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                          If you would kindly take the time to learn about factorials and probabilities then make statements backed up by facts, you would be taken far more seriously. As it stands, if you are ignoring even the most basic of maths, you have little credibility.

                          Shalom
                          I have not published all my works , I said in my last messages that there are three God's messenger and I have not right for to publish their names, I shared with you this works only for having a idea also for to take the mathematical miracle in Quran in the serious and for studying it , be sure in the nexts year God will prove that his scripture is protected also that the two false verses 128 , 129 are false by another proof .
                          Shalom
                          Israel

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                            Please when you check any work try to read it well before answering.

                            I always check for accuracy and suggest the following for improvement

                            http//www.google.com/search?client=dell-usuk-rel&channel=us&hl=en&q=factorials

                            Narcissism_(psychology)

                            http//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/73/Narcissus_cropped.jpg

                            Narcissus, the Greek after whom narcissism is named, became obsessed with his own reflection.

                            9129? say "All?h is sufficient for me. L? il?ha illa Huwa?"

                            Peace

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                              Shalom
                              I have not published all my works , I said in my last messages that there are three God's messenger and I have not right for to publish their names, I shared with you this works only for having a idea also for to take the mathematical miracle in Quran in the serious and for studying it , be sure in the nexts year God will prove that his scripture is protected also that the two false verses 128 , 129 are false by another proof .
                              Shalom
                              Israel

                              I am sorry but when you cannot seem to even grasp the concept behind probabilities of numbers being unique, you just cannot be taken seriously. It matters not how much you publish when the quality is so low.

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                                I am sorry but when you cannot seem to even grasp the concept behind probabilities of numbers being unique, you just cannot be taken seriously. It matters not how much you publish when the quality is so low.

                                Shalom
                                yes you're right lmaybe I did a mistake for to have to publish this discoveriesbut i was with a good intention , I wanted only to let people to see that the mathematical miracle is a eternal miracle, for the messengers Rashad wasn't the last messenger also every one claimed that he is a messenger he should present solid proofs .
                                for the discoveries which I've published i'm sure you didn't undertand the meaning it's discoveries wich we can to arrive to discover other secrets , but be sure we will see other works in the future insha Allah .
                                Shalom
                                Israel ( Abdallah) 142

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                                  Salam,

                                  in this work I will confirm to you by another proof that the Quran is a wonderful book , in this work I will give to you proofs that Rashad Khalifa was a messenger, also I will give to you another proof that the Abdallah name which is mentioned in the chapter 72 verse 19 , wasn't talking about Muhammad either Rashad, Please use your mind and your wisdom for to understand this discovery .

                                  Noble Verse(s) 7219

                                  Transliteration
                                  Waannahu lamma qama AAabdu Allahi yadAAoohu kadoo yakoonoona AAalayhi libadan

                                  Arabic (from right to left)

                                  7219

                                  Arberry
                                  When the servant of God stood calling on Him, they were wellnigh upon him in swarms.

                                  The above verse is very clear. It is talking of something that already happened during the lifetime of the Prophet Muhammad. You don't have to do the proof.
                                  It refers to Muhammad.

                                  Hati

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                                    Tomayto Tomahto is still a Tomato
                                    http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVvyUKOwwwU

                                    Likewise someone can try to change the easily memorized Do-Re-Me-Fa-So-La-Ti-Do.

                                    Bismi Allhi Ar-Ramni Ar-Rami
                                    Alif-Lam-Meem

                                    To

                                    Bismi Allhi Ar-Rami Ar-Ramni
                                    Meem Lam Alif

                                    All the 19 stuff remains unchanged, yet they?ll stand corrected by those who remember and Qur?an was/is preserved in recital, a commandment from God since beginning?

                                    Peace
                                    I am not involving in this topic becuase
                                    Code 19 is only for properties of if Quran and should not be mixed with infallibles.
                                    Dear Brother JK which is very busy these days and takes time to be back with his intellectual and informative responses informed me about above claim.

                                    All I have to say you have tomato instead I eye ball and even tomato has to side different but yours is same. )Instead of all theses nonsense claims just study files we post to avoid such miserable mistake.
                                    Just study this file. sun
                                    Make it easier for you then watch this.
                                    And this one may cure your tomato eye you to a real eye ball and if not effecting then i let wo ith God Alone may help you to understand. )
                                    Peace.

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                                      Peace
                                      I am not involving in this topic becuase
                                      Code 19 is only for properties of if Quran and should not be mixed with infallibles.
                                      Dear Brother JK which is very busy these days and takes time to be back with his intellectual and informative responses informed me about above claim.

                                      All I have to say you have tomato instead I eye ball and even tomato has to side different but yours is same. )Instead of all theses nonsense claims just study files we post to avoid such miserable mistake.
                                      Just study this file. sun
                                      Make it easier for you then watch this.
                                      And this one may cure your tomato eye you to a real eye ball and if not effecting then i let wo ith God Alone may help you to understand. )
                                      Peace.

                                      But if all those could not satisfy you then if you have nough knowledge of mathematics solve this case or ask those that claim have PHD in Math and never touched that topic
                                      Toamto rotfl

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                                        Shalom brothers and sisters handshake )

                                        that Rashad Khalifa wasn't a liar or a dejall as the disbelievers says,

                                        Shalom

                                        Peace

                                        Did rashad Khalifa stated that the Last Two Verses of Chapter 9 should be deleted, or he did not say that?

                                        Please I need an answer, because I'm not clear if he was the one who said that.

                                        Peace

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                                          But if all those could not satisfy you then if you have nough knowledge of mathematics solve this case or ask those that claim have PHD in Math and never touched that topic
                                          Toamto rotfl

                                          Are you OK? Don't lose your faith and mind over simple baby math puzzles...

                                          1 BiSM 3 2, 60, 40 102
                                          2. ALLaH 4 1, 30, 30, 5 66
                                          3. AL-RaHMaN 6 1, 30, 200, 8, 40, 50 329
                                          4. AL-RaHYM 6 1, 30, 200, 8, 10, 40 289
                                          Total 19 786 / 19 = 41.3684211

                                          BiSM ALLaH AL-RaHMaN AL-RaHYM

                                          BiSM B?'D?lM?mK?f AL-RaHMaN AL-RaHYM

                                          B?'D?lM?mK?f (BDMK) or 2+4+40+20 = 66 -- your idol god.

                                          1 x 2 x 3 x 4 x
                                          Here are the following patterns found to be divisible by 19

                                          1 3 2 4 3 6 4 6 = 19 x 697034
                                          x number of letters in the word

                                          1 3 2 7 3 13 4 19 = 19 x 69858601
                                          x number of letters from the beginning of the expression to the end of the word

                                          1 102 2 66 3 329 4 289 = 19 x 5801401752331
                                          x total gv of the letters of the word

                                          1 102 2 168 3 497 4 786 = 19 x 58011412367094
                                          x total gv of the letters from the beginning of the expression to the end of the word

                                          B?'D?lM?mK?f (BDMK) 1 26040 2 244020 3 13020084050 4 13020081040 = 19 x 66336960211595422109 6868638431621600
                                          x gv of each letter in the word

                                          B?'D?lM?mK?f (BDMK) 4 2, 4, 40, 20 102+2, 104+4, 108+40, 148+20
                                          1 262102 2 104108148168 3 169199399407447497 4 498528728736746786 = 19 x 66426432126884990359 56273652600391973549 9922564670355094

                                          x total gv of all letters from the beginning to the letter being coded.

                                          Read/Listen to Qur'an, that is a much better time spent...

                                          http//au.youtube.com/watch?v=PAkx47qVZ5g

                                          Peace

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