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    Sorry for the late reply, but Jonny K, Quran calls itself the book / al kitab???

    Where?

    22 doesn't have 'this', it has 'that' / thalik.

    The Quran clarifies/details Al kitab/ the book, which ALREADY existed. (1037).

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      Let's not forget the books ingrained people's heads, and one last example

      1132 has only 4 words = 4! (Factorial) = 4x3x2x1 = 24 sentences with the same code 19 values.

      Below are only 3 of the possible 24; please try and tell us which is correct?

      Min ma sharri khalaqa
      From what evil He created

      Min sharri ma khalaqa
      From evil what He created

      Min ma khalaqa sharri
      From what He created evil

      Likewise the last verse in al-Fatihah 17 has 9 words = 9! = 362,880 possible sentences.

      Perhaps try scrambling/shifting the 70 or so words in inheritance verse 411 to view impact.

      That's 70 ! = 1.19785717 ? 10^100 different possible sentences with same Geometrical Value!

      http//www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=active&q=70%21

      I believe this point is made clear.

      Peace

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        Salam,

        Assuming that you have mathematically proven that Abdallah is a name of person in those verses, let us insert the name not the meaning of that name

        Transliteration
        Qala innee AAabdu Allahi ataniya alkitaba wajaAAalanee nabiyyan

        Arberry
        He said, 'Lo, I am God's servant; God has given me the Book, and made me a Prophet.

        Khalifa (why is he here?)
        (The infant spoke and) said, "I am a servant of GOD. He has given me the scripture, and has appointed me a prophet.

        Noble Verse(s) 7219

        Transliteration
        Waannahu lamma qama AAabdu Allahi yadAAoohu kadoo yakoonoona AAalayhi libadan

        Arberry
        When Abdallah stood calling on Him, they were wellnigh upon him in swarms.

        Khalifa
        When Abdallah advocated Him alone, almost all of them banded together to oppose him.

        So be it, because Muhammad's name is not translated do the same for other names you believe is in Quran. It would be a double standard that other names are translated but for other prophets their names are not translated.

        Like the following

        Yusuf Ali
        Say "I know not whether the (Punishment) which ye are promised is near, or whether my Lord will appoint for it a distant term.

        "He (alone) knows the Unseen, nor does He make any one acquainted with His Mysteries,-

        "Except an apostle whom He has chosen and then He makes a band of rasadan march before him and behind him,

        "That He may know that they have (truly) brought and delivered the Messages of their Lord and He surrounds (all the mysteries) that are with them, and takes account of every single thing."

        Transliteration
        Qul in adree aqareebun ma tooAAadoona am yajAAalu lahu rabbee amadan

        AAalimu alghaybi fala yuthhiru AAala ghaybihi ahadan

        Illa mani irtada min rasoolin fa-innahu yasluku min bayni yadayhi wamin khalfihi rasadan

        LiyaAAlama an qad ablaghoo risalati rabbihim waahata bima ladayhim waahsa kulla shay-in AAadadan

        Arberry
        Say 'I do not know whether that which you are promised is nigh, or whether my Lord will appoint for it a space;

        Knower He of the Unseen, and He discloses not His Unseen to anyone,

        save only to such a Messenger as He is well-pleased with; then He despatches before him and behind him rasadan,

        that He may know they have delivered the Messages of their Lord; and He encompasses all that is with them, and He has numbered everything in numbers.'

        Khalifa
        Say, "I do not know if what is promised to you will happen soon, or if my Lord will delay it for awhile."

        He is the Knower of the future; He does not reveal the future to anyone.

        Illa mani irtada min rasoolin fa-innahu yasluku min bayni yadayhi wamin khalfihi rasadan

        Only to a messenger that He chooses, does He reveal from the past and the future, rasadan.

        This is to ascertain that they have delivered their Lord's messages. He is fully aware of what they have. He has counted the numbers of all things.

        God bless you

        Hati

        Shalom Hati

        be sure that the God's messengers who will come after Muhammad their name will be proptect and coded by the number 19 , because Quran says " Over it is nineteen" for the Abdallah name in the Quran from the begining I told you this name is a popular name in the arabic countries even in the Turkey, also my name is Abdallah , I wasn't named by my parents , i was named by the angels, for the Andallah name in the Quran , in the chapter 19 verse 30 Quran says

        (The infant spoke and) said, "I am a servant of GOD. He has given me the scripture, and has appointed me a prophet.
        in the chapter 34 Quran tell us who is that servant
        That was Jesus, the son of Mary, and this is the truth of this matter, about which they continue to doubt.
        HE IS JESUS OR THAT WAS JESUS

        but the Question now in the chapter 72 verse 19 , who is that servant , the muslim scholars , said it's about

        Mohammad , and some submitters said it's about Rashad , but in the same Chapter , the Quran didn't tell to us who is

        that servant , Quran says only , When GOD's servant advocated Him alone, almost all of them banded together to oppose him. sun
        by the way if you check the rashad word you will find that is repeated 19 times also for the Prophet name is coded and if you want proofs I'm ready for to share with you and with with our brothers and sisters other proofs sun

        Shalom

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          Shalom Hati

          be sure that the God's messengers who will come after Muhammad their name will be proptect and coded by the number 19 , because Quran says " Over it is nineteen" for the Abdallah name in the Quran from the begining I told you this name is a popular name in the arabic countries even in the Turkey, also my name is Abdallah , I wasn't named by my parents , i was named by the angels, for the Andallah name in the Quran , in the chapter 19 verse 30 Quran says

          (The infant spoke and) said, "I am a servant of GOD. He has given me the scripture, and has appointed me a prophet.
          in the chapter 34 Quran tell us who is that servant
          That was Jesus, the son of Mary, and this is the truth of this matter, about which they continue to doubt.
          HE IS JESUS OR THAT WAS JESUS

          but the Question now in the chapter 72 verse 19 , who is that servant , the muslim scholars , said it's about

          Mohammad , and some submitters said it's about Rashad , but in the same Chapter , the Quran didn't tell to us who is

          that servant , Quran says only , When GOD's servant advocated Him alone, almost all of them banded together to oppose him. sun
          by the way if you check the rashad word you will find that is repeated 19 times also for the Prophet name is coded and if you want proofs I'm ready for to share with you and with with our brothers and sisters other proofs sun

          Shalom

          Shalom

          in this work I will confirm to you by another proof that the Quran is a wonderful book , in this work I will give to you proofs that Rashad Khalifa was a messenger, also I will give to you another proof that the Abdallah name which is mentioned in the chapter 72 verse 19 , wasn't talking about Muhammad either Rashad, Please use your mind and your wisdom for to understand this discovery .

          In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful

          " Over it is nineteen "

          *the first Revelation chapter 96 the Embryo " Al-ALAQ "

          Read, in the name of your Lord, who created.*

          He created man from an embryo.

          Read, and your Lord, Most Exalted.

          Teaches by means of the pen.

          He teaches man what he never knew.

          1 2 3 4 5

          on the first revelation there are 19 words and 76 letters the letters of the verse " Over it is nineteen " is mentioned 44 times by 6 letters " Ain , Lam, Ya , Alef , Sin , Ra " the Gematrical value of these letters is " Ain = 70 , Lam = 30 , Ya = 10 , Alef = 1 , Sin = 60 , Ra = 200 "

          The result ;

          (96)+(1+2+3+4+5) +(19+76)+(44)+(6)+(70+30+10+1+60+200) = 627 (19*33)

          the word the proof

          *the first revelation 96

          Read, in the name of your Lord, who created.*

          He created man from an embryo.

          Read, and your Lord, Most Exalted.

          Teaches by means of the pen.

          He teaches man what he never knew.

          1 2 3 4 5

          The letters of the word " The proof " is mentioned 41 times on the first revelation " Alef 15 , Lam 14 , Ba4 , Ya 3 , Nun 5 "

          the result ;

          (41+15+96 ) = 152 (19*

          *The first revelation chapter 96

          Read, in the name of your Lord, who created.*

          He created man from an embryo.

          Read, and your Lord, Most Exalted.

          Teaches by means of the pen.

          He teaches man what he never knew

          1 2 3 4 5

          if we will not repeat the letters of the first revelation we get 14 letters " Alef , Qaf , Ra, Ba, Sin , Meem, Kaf , Lam , Dhal , Nun , Ain , Waw , The gematrical value of these letters is " Alef 1 , Qaf 100 , Ra 200 , Sin 60 , Meem 40 , Kaf 20 , Lam 30 , Dhal 700 , Nun 50 , Ain 70 , Waw 6 "

          The result ;

          (96)+(1+2+3+4+5)+(14)+(1+100+200+60+40+20+30+700+50+70+6) = 2014 ( 19*106)

          • The verse In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful

          The verse " In The Name Of God Most Gracious , Most Merciful " is mentioned in the chapter 1 verse 1 and in the chapter 27 verse 30 , if we don't repeat the letters of this verse we get 10 letters " Ba, Sin , Meem , Alef , Lam , Ra , Ha , Nun , Ya , Ha " the gematrical value of these letters is ( Ba 2, Sin 60, Meem 40 , Alef 1 , lam 30, Ra 200 , Ha 5 , Nun 50 , ya 10 , Ha 5 )

          The result

          (1+1)+(27+30)+(10)+(2+60+40+1+30+200+5+50+10+5) = 475 (19*25)

          • the Abdallah name is mentioned in the chapter 72 verse 19
            " When GOD's servant advocated Him alone, almost all of them banded together to oppose him. if we don't repeat the letters of the Abdallah word we get 6 letters " Ain , Ba, Da, Alef , Lam , Ha " The gematrical value of thses letters is ( Ain 70 , Ba 2 , Da 4 , Alef 1 , Lam 30 , Ha 5 )

          The result

          (73+19)+(6)+(70+2+4+1+30+5) = 209 (19*11)

          Over it is nineteen.*

          the Abdallah's letters in repeated on the verse " Over it is nineteen 6 times by 3
          letters " Ain , Lam , Ha " The gematrical value of these letters is " Ain 70 , Lam 30 , Ha 5 "

          The result

          (6)+(3)+(70+30+5) = 114 (196)
          also
          (114+Gematrical value of teh word Abdallah 142 + chapter 72 +verse 19 +Gematrical value of the verse " Over it is nineteen " 1221 " +chpater 74 +verse 30 ) = 1672 (19
          88 )

          the word " The proof "

          Chapter 72 verse 19

          the letters of the Abdallah letters is reptead on the word " The Proof " 3 times by 3 letters (Alef , lam , Ha ) The gematrical value of these letters is ( Alef 1, Lam 30 , Ha 5 )

          the result

          ( 72+19)+(3)+(3)+(1+30+5) = 133 (19*7)

          the word Say

          5 chapters begin by the word Say and in these chapters there are 9 verse begin by the word say ,

          Chapter 72

          Say, "I was inspired that a group of jinns listened, then said, `We have heard a wonderful Quran.

          7220] Say, "I worship only my Lord; I never set up any idols beside Him."

          Say, "I possess no power to harm you, nor to guide you."

          Say, "No one can protect me from GOD, nor can I find any other refuge beside Him.

          Say, "I do not know if what is promised to you will happen soon, or if my Lord will delay it for awhile

          Chapter 109

          Say, "O you disbelievers.

          Chapter 112

          Proclaim, "He is the One and only GOD.

          Chapter 113

          Say, "I seek refuge in the Lord of daybreak.

          Chapter 114

          Say, "I seek refuge in the Lord of the people.

          (5+9) + (72+1+20+21+22+25) + (109+1) + (112+1) + (113+1) + (114+1) = 627 (19*33)

          the gematrical value of the Prophet name Ahmad and Muhammad " 53 and 92 " (5+3+9+2 ) = 19 (19*1)

          God asked the prophet for to say for example " I seek refuge in the Lord of the people

          6279253 = 19*330487

          the bgematrical value of the Rashad word is 505 and the Gematrical value of the Abdallah word is 142

          627505142 = 19*33026586

          the letters of the word Say is reptead in these 9 verse 76 times (19*4)

          the letters of the Rashad word is repeated on these 9 verse (1+20+21+22+25+72)+(1+109)+(1+112)+(1+113)+(1+114) 76 times there are 5 chapters
          (9+1+20+21+22+25+72+1+109+1+112+1+113+1+114+ 76 ) = 703 (19*37)

          I prefer to stop here because I can't publish all thing I would inform you that Rashad Khalifa wasn't the last messenger and the world is become too small as a small village

          Cite for them the example of people in a community that received the messengers.

          When we sent to them two (messengers), they disbelieved them. We then supported them by a third. They said, "We are (God's) messengers to you."

          Bible

          .

          Corinthiens 13

          Je vais chez vous pour la troisi?me fois. Toute affaire se r?glera sur la d?claration de deux ou de trois t?moins.

          Bible

          I go at your place for the third time. All matter will regulate itself on the declaration of two or of three witnesses.

          for the people who don't understand the arabic anguage they can ask their brothers and sisters on this forum for to confirm my works, also they can to ask me

          Shalom
          Abdallah 142

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            Greetings,

            ...also I will give to you another proof that the Abdallah name which is mentioned in the chapter 72 verse 19 , wasn't talking about Muhammad either Rashad, Please use your mind and your wisdom for to understand this discovery .

            Likewise ABDALLAH7219 (aka gv 142), use your mind and wisdom to understand.

            on the first revelation there are 19 words and 76 letters the letters of the verse " Over it is nineteen " is mentioned 44 times by 6 letters " Ain , Lam, Ya , Alef , Sin , Ra " the Gematrical value of these letters is " Ain = 70 , Lam = 30 , Ya = 10 , Alef = 1 , Sin = 60 , Ra = 200 "

            The result ;

            (96)+(1+2+3+4+5) +(19+76)+(44)+(6)+(70+30+10+1+60+200) = 627 (19*33)

            Ain = 70 , Lam = 30 , Ya = 10 , Alef = 1 , Sin = 60 , Ra = 200

            6! Factorial = 720 different names with same (gv) geometrical value

            The letters of the word " The proof " is mentioned 41 times on the first revelation " Alef 15 , Lam 14 , Ba4 , Ya 3 , Nun 5 "

            the result ;

            (41+15+96 ) = 152 (19*

            Alef 15 , Lam 14 , Ba4 , Ya 3 , Nun 5

            5! factorial = 120 different names with same gv

            if we will not repeat the letters of the first revelation we get 14 letters " Alef , Qaf , Ra, Ba, Sin , Meem, Kaf , Lam , Dhal , Nun , Ain , Waw , The gematrical value of these letters is " Alef 1 , Qaf 100 , Ra 200 , Sin 60 , Meem 40 , Kaf 20 , Lam 30 , Dhal 700 , Nun 50 , Ain 70 , Waw 6 "

            The result ;

            (96)+(1+2+3+4+5)+(14)+(1+100+200+60+40+20+30+700+50+70+6) = 2014 ( 19*106)

            Alef 1 , Qaf 100 , Ra 200 , Sin 60 , Meem 40 , Kaf 20 , Lam 30 , Dhal 700 , Nun 50 , Ain 70 , Waw 6

            11 ! = 39,916,800 different names with same gv

            http//www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=strict&client=dell-usuk-rel&channel=us&ad=w5&q=11%21

            The verse " In The Name Of God Most Gracious , Most Merciful " is mentioned in the chapter 1 verse 1 and in the chapter 27 verse 30 , if we don't repeat the letters of this verse we get 10 letters " Ba, Sin , Meem , Alef , Lam , Ra , Ha , Nun , Ya , Ha " the gematrical value of these letters is ( Ba 2, Sin 60, Meem 40 , Alef 1 , lam 30, Ra 200 , Ha 5 , Nun 50 , ya 10 , Ha 5 )

            The result

            (1+1)+(27+30)+(10)+(2+60+40+1+30+200+5+50+10+5) = 475 (19*25)

            Ba 2, Sin 60, Meem 40 , Alef 1 , lam 30, Ra 200 , Ha 5 , Nun 50 , ya 10 , Ha 5

            10 ! = 3,628,800 different names with same gv

            • the Abdallah name is mentioned in the chapter 72 verse 19
              " When GOD's servant advocated Him alone, almost all of them banded together to oppose him. if we don't repeat the letters of the Abdallah word we get 6 letters " Ain , Ba, Da, Alef , Lam , Ha " The gematrical value of thses letters is ( Ain 70 , Ba 2 , Da 4 , Alef 1 , Lam 30 , Ha 5 )

            The result

            (73+19)+(6)+(70+2+4+1+30+5) = 209 (19*11)

            Ain 70 , Ba 2 , Da 4 , Alef 1 , Lam 30 , Ha 5

            6! Factorial = 720 different names with same (gv) geometrical value

            also
            (114+Gematrical value of teh word Abdallah 142 + chapter 72 +verse 19 +Gematrical value of the verse " Over it is nineteen " 1221 " +chpater 74 +verse 30 ) = 1672 (19*88 )

            Likewise would billions of other combinations; 114 + (gv of 6! = 720 names) + chapter 72...

            the word Say

            5 chapters begin by the word Say and in these chapters there are 9 verse begin by the word say ,

            The word(s) "Say" appears 938 time(s) in 780 verse(s) in Quran in M. Khan translation.

            http//www.searchtruth.com/search.php?keyword=Say&chapter=&translator=5&search=1&start=0&records_display=10&search_word=all

            Perhaps do more reading of the above and less pattern searching.

            I prefer to stop here because I can't publish all thing I would inform you...

            Likewise.

            Peace

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              Greetings,

              Likewise ABDALLAH7219 (aka gv 142), use your mind and wisdom to understand.

              Ain = 70 , Lam = 30 , Ya = 10 , Alef = 1 , Sin = 60 , Ra = 200

              6! Factorial = 720 different names with same (gv) geometrical value

              Alef 15 , Lam 14 , Ba4 , Ya 3 , Nun 5

              5! factorial = 120 different names with same gv

              Alef 1 , Qaf 100 , Ra 200 , Sin 60 , Meem 40 , Kaf 20 , Lam 30 , Dhal 700 , Nun 50 , Ain 70 , Waw 6

              11 ! = 39,916,800 different names with same gv

              http//www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=strict&client=dell-usuk-rel&channel=us&ad=w5&q=11%21

              Ba 2, Sin 60, Meem 40 , Alef 1 , lam 30, Ra 200 , Ha 5 , Nun 50 , ya 10 , Ha 5

              10 ! = 3,628,800 different names with same gv

              Ain 70 , Ba 2 , Da 4 , Alef 1 , Lam 30 , Ha 5

              6! Factorial = 720 different names with same (gv) geometrical value

              Likewise would billions of other combinations; 114 + (gv of 6! = 720 names) + chapter 72...

              The word(s) "Say" appears 938 time(s) in 780 verse(s) in Quran in M. Khan translation.

              http//www.searchtruth.com/search.php?keyword=Say&chapter=&translator=5&search=1&start=0&records_display=10&search_word=all

              Perhaps do more reading of the above and less pattern searching.

              Likewise.

              Peace

              Shalom

              unfortunately you didn't use your mind also I see you've not a good idea on the mathematical miracle code in the Quran , also i see you are against the Abdallah's name in the chapter 72 verse 19 , also I see that you didn't understand the meaning of that work and what I want to prove with .but i think the best way it's to let other people for to check that work for to see their opinion too , but before to let you i would like to give to you another proof about the God's messenger Rashad, and before to forget for the word say in the Quran I said , there are only 5 chapter begin by the word say , Please when you check any work try to read it well before answering .
              ok now lets to start for studying together this

              Chapter 98 The proof verse number 2 A messenger from GOD is reciting to them sacred instructions.*
              I believe that the Quran was revealed to the prophet " Muhammad " without the two false verse ( chapter 9 verse 128 , 129 ) these two satanic verses , after after his departure the people who rewrote the Quran they added these two satanic verses " chapter 9 verse 128 , 129 " after the coming of the messenger Rashad he removed them .

              the prophet had two names the prophet had two names Ahmad and Muhammad if we don't repeat the letter of these two word we get three letters " Alef , Ha, meem " the letter Alef is repeated 3 times and the letter Ha is repeated 1 time and the letter meem is repeated 2 times and the letteer Da 0 times ,
              the gematrical value of the letter Alef is 1 the gematrical value of the letter ha is 8 the gematrical value of teh letters meem is 40

              the gematrical value of the word Muhammad is 92 and the gematrical value of the word Ahmad is 53

              the result

              (3+1+2)+(1+8+40)+( 98+2)+(92) = 247 (1913)
              also
              (3+1+2+1+8+4+0+9+8+2+9+2+5+3+= 57 (19
              3)

              for the word Rashad and Abdallah

              the letter Ra is repteated 2 times
              the letter Alef is repteated 3 times
              the letter lam is repteated 4 times
              the letter Ha is repeated 2 times
              the gematrical value of the letter Ra is 200
              the gematrical value of the letter Alef is 1
              the gematrical value of the letter lam is 30
              the gematrical value of the letter Ha is 5

              the result

              (2+3+4+2+200+1+30+5) = 247 (19*13)

              Shalom
              Israel

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                If you would kindly take the time to learn about factorials and probabilities then make statements backed up by facts, you would be taken far more seriously. As it stands, if you are ignoring even the most basic of maths, you have little credibility.

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                  If you would kindly take the time to learn about factorials and probabilities then make statements backed up by facts, you would be taken far more seriously. As it stands, if you are ignoring even the most basic of maths, you have little credibility.

                  Shalom
                  I have not published all my works , I said in my last messages that there are three God's messenger and I have not right for to publish their names, I shared with you this works only for having a idea also for to take the mathematical miracle in Quran in the serious and for studying it , be sure in the nexts year God will prove that his scripture is protected also that the two false verses 128 , 129 are false by another proof .
                  Shalom
                  Israel

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                    Please when you check any work try to read it well before answering.

                    I always check for accuracy and suggest the following for improvement

                    http//www.google.com/search?client=dell-usuk-rel&channel=us&hl=en&q=factorials

                    Narcissism_(psychology)

                    http//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/73/Narcissus_cropped.jpg

                    Narcissus, the Greek after whom narcissism is named, became obsessed with his own reflection.

                    9129? say "All?h is sufficient for me. L? il?ha illa Huwa?"

                    Peace

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                      Shalom
                      I have not published all my works , I said in my last messages that there are three God's messenger and I have not right for to publish their names, I shared with you this works only for having a idea also for to take the mathematical miracle in Quran in the serious and for studying it , be sure in the nexts year God will prove that his scripture is protected also that the two false verses 128 , 129 are false by another proof .
                      Shalom
                      Israel

                      I am sorry but when you cannot seem to even grasp the concept behind probabilities of numbers being unique, you just cannot be taken seriously. It matters not how much you publish when the quality is so low.

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                        I am sorry but when you cannot seem to even grasp the concept behind probabilities of numbers being unique, you just cannot be taken seriously. It matters not how much you publish when the quality is so low.

                        Shalom
                        yes you're right lmaybe I did a mistake for to have to publish this discoveriesbut i was with a good intention , I wanted only to let people to see that the mathematical miracle is a eternal miracle, for the messengers Rashad wasn't the last messenger also every one claimed that he is a messenger he should present solid proofs .
                        for the discoveries which I've published i'm sure you didn't undertand the meaning it's discoveries wich we can to arrive to discover other secrets , but be sure we will see other works in the future insha Allah .
                        Shalom
                        Israel ( Abdallah) 142

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                          Salam,

                          in this work I will confirm to you by another proof that the Quran is a wonderful book , in this work I will give to you proofs that Rashad Khalifa was a messenger, also I will give to you another proof that the Abdallah name which is mentioned in the chapter 72 verse 19 , wasn't talking about Muhammad either Rashad, Please use your mind and your wisdom for to understand this discovery .

                          Noble Verse(s) 7219

                          Transliteration
                          Waannahu lamma qama AAabdu Allahi yadAAoohu kadoo yakoonoona AAalayhi libadan

                          Arabic (from right to left)

                          7219

                          Arberry
                          When the servant of God stood calling on Him, they were wellnigh upon him in swarms.

                          The above verse is very clear. It is talking of something that already happened during the lifetime of the Prophet Muhammad. You don't have to do the proof.
                          It refers to Muhammad.

                          Hati

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                            Tomayto Tomahto is still a Tomato
                            http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVvyUKOwwwU

                            Likewise someone can try to change the easily memorized Do-Re-Me-Fa-So-La-Ti-Do.

                            Bismi Allhi Ar-Ramni Ar-Rami
                            Alif-Lam-Meem

                            To

                            Bismi Allhi Ar-Rami Ar-Ramni
                            Meem Lam Alif

                            All the 19 stuff remains unchanged, yet they?ll stand corrected by those who remember and Qur?an was/is preserved in recital, a commandment from God since beginning?

                            Peace
                            I am not involving in this topic becuase
                            Code 19 is only for properties of if Quran and should not be mixed with infallibles.
                            Dear Brother JK which is very busy these days and takes time to be back with his intellectual and informative responses informed me about above claim.

                            All I have to say you have tomato instead I eye ball and even tomato has to side different but yours is same. )Instead of all theses nonsense claims just study files we post to avoid such miserable mistake.
                            Just study this file. sun
                            Make it easier for you then watch this.
                            And this one may cure your tomato eye you to a real eye ball and if not effecting then i let wo ith God Alone may help you to understand. )
                            Peace.

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                              Peace
                              I am not involving in this topic becuase
                              Code 19 is only for properties of if Quran and should not be mixed with infallibles.
                              Dear Brother JK which is very busy these days and takes time to be back with his intellectual and informative responses informed me about above claim.

                              All I have to say you have tomato instead I eye ball and even tomato has to side different but yours is same. )Instead of all theses nonsense claims just study files we post to avoid such miserable mistake.
                              Just study this file. sun
                              Make it easier for you then watch this.
                              And this one may cure your tomato eye you to a real eye ball and if not effecting then i let wo ith God Alone may help you to understand. )
                              Peace.

                              But if all those could not satisfy you then if you have nough knowledge of mathematics solve this case or ask those that claim have PHD in Math and never touched that topic
                              Toamto rotfl

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                                Shalom brothers and sisters handshake )

                                that Rashad Khalifa wasn't a liar or a dejall as the disbelievers says,

                                Shalom

                                Peace

                                Did rashad Khalifa stated that the Last Two Verses of Chapter 9 should be deleted, or he did not say that?

                                Please I need an answer, because I'm not clear if he was the one who said that.

                                Peace

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                                  But if all those could not satisfy you then if you have nough knowledge of mathematics solve this case or ask those that claim have PHD in Math and never touched that topic
                                  Toamto rotfl

                                  Are you OK? Don't lose your faith and mind over simple baby math puzzles...

                                  1 BiSM 3 2, 60, 40 102
                                  2. ALLaH 4 1, 30, 30, 5 66
                                  3. AL-RaHMaN 6 1, 30, 200, 8, 40, 50 329
                                  4. AL-RaHYM 6 1, 30, 200, 8, 10, 40 289
                                  Total 19 786 / 19 = 41.3684211

                                  BiSM ALLaH AL-RaHMaN AL-RaHYM

                                  BiSM B?'D?lM?mK?f AL-RaHMaN AL-RaHYM

                                  B?'D?lM?mK?f (BDMK) or 2+4+40+20 = 66 -- your idol god.

                                  1 x 2 x 3 x 4 x
                                  Here are the following patterns found to be divisible by 19

                                  1 3 2 4 3 6 4 6 = 19 x 697034
                                  x number of letters in the word

                                  1 3 2 7 3 13 4 19 = 19 x 69858601
                                  x number of letters from the beginning of the expression to the end of the word

                                  1 102 2 66 3 329 4 289 = 19 x 5801401752331
                                  x total gv of the letters of the word

                                  1 102 2 168 3 497 4 786 = 19 x 58011412367094
                                  x total gv of the letters from the beginning of the expression to the end of the word

                                  B?'D?lM?mK?f (BDMK) 1 26040 2 244020 3 13020084050 4 13020081040 = 19 x 66336960211595422109 6868638431621600
                                  x gv of each letter in the word

                                  B?'D?lM?mK?f (BDMK) 4 2, 4, 40, 20 102+2, 104+4, 108+40, 148+20
                                  1 262102 2 104108148168 3 169199399407447497 4 498528728736746786 = 19 x 66426432126884990359 56273652600391973549 9922564670355094

                                  x total gv of all letters from the beginning to the letter being coded.

                                  Read/Listen to Qur'an, that is a much better time spent...

                                  http//au.youtube.com/watch?v=PAkx47qVZ5g

                                  Peace

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                                    but the Question now in the chapter 72 verse 19 , who is that servant , the muslim scholars , said it's about

                                    Mohammad , and some submitters said it's about Rashad , but in the same Chapter , the Quran didn't tell to us who is

                                    that servant , Quran says only , When GOD's servant advocated Him alone, almost all of them banded together to oppose him. sun

                                    Why worry so much who is abdullah?

                                    Its very clear

                                    GOD's servant

                                    Peace

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