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Warrning: Never say That

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    We have, without doubt sent down the Message; and We will assuredly guard it (from corruption). (15-9)Please, be aware that God have guaranteed that he, only he, will guard the Quran (and the other Books as well) from getting corrupted. Thus, as a true Believer, I advice you from saying that the Quran had been tampered, either by saying that the last two Verses in Chapter 9 had been added, or by saying that The Quran is missing the Stoning to Death verse. If you say that you are disbelieving the above Verse ?Ayh?.
    Be sure to trust your Lord when he makes a promise.

    (&#1634
    Verily, when He intends a thing, His command is "Be" and it is! (36-82)

    And if you do not, be ready to answer him in the Judgment Day.
    Peace

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      Thus, as a true Believer, I advice you from saying that the Quran had been tampered, either by saying that the last two Verses in Chapter 9 had been added, or by saying that The Quran is missing the Stoning to Death verse.

      Obviously...

      2855 And if they heard/listened (to) the nonsense/senseless talk, they turned away from it, and they said "For us (are) our deeds, and for you, your deeds, a greeting/peace on (to) you, we do not wish/desire the lowly/ignorant.?

      Peace

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        Obviously...

        2855 And if they heard/listened (to) the nonsense/senseless talk, they turned away from it, and they said "For us (are) our deeds, and for you, your deeds, a greeting/peace on (to) you, we do not wish/desire the lowly/ignorant.?

        Peace

        Can you please explain more
        Thanks

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          Can you please explain more
          Thanks

          To say verses are missing/added is a major contradiction and nonsense talk which appeals to the naive mislead with hearsay and simple math tricks as case of 19.

          Both falsities are based on hearsay and selective/manipulative inputs to gain a desired output.

          A simple example?

          Try scrambling/shifting the 70 or so words in inheritance verse 411 to view impact.

          That's 70! = 1.19785717 ? 10^100 different possible sentences with same Geometrical Value!

          http//www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=active&q=70%21

          10^100 is a GOOGLE or 2 times possible # of verses than there are electrons in the known universe!

          Qur'an is protected as a song in the minds of people preserved in recital, a commandment from God since beginning?

          Bismi Allhi Ar-Ramni Ar-Rami
          Alif-Lam-Meem

          Certainly, We have made this easy in your tongue, in order that they may remember. (445
          And We have indeed made the Quran easy to understand and remember, then is there any that will remember? (5417)
          And We have indeed made the Quran easy to understand and remember, then is there any that will remember? (5422)
          And We have indeed made the Quran easy to understand and remember, then is there any that will remember? (5432)
          And We have indeed made the Quran easy to understand and remember, then is there any that will remember? (5440)

          Peace

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            To say verses are missing/added is a major contradiction and nonsense talk which appeals to the naive mislead with hearsay and simple math tricks as case of 19.

            Both falsities are based on hearsay and selective/manipulative inputs to gain a desired output.

            A simple example?

            Try scrambling/shifting the 70 or so words in inheritance verse 411 to view impact.

            That's 70! = 1.19785717 ? 10^100 different possible sentences with same Geometrical Value!

            http//www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=active&q=70%21

            10^100 is a GOOGLE or 2 times possible # of verses than there are electrons in the known universe!

            Qur'an is protected as a song in the minds of people preserved in recital, a commandment from God since beginning?

            Bismi Allhi Ar-Ramni Ar-Rami
            Alif-Lam-Meem

            Certainly, We have made this easy in your tongue, in order that they may remember. (445
            And We have indeed made the Quran easy to understand and remember, then is there any that will remember? (5417)
            And We have indeed made the Quran easy to understand and remember, then is there any that will remember? (5422)
            And We have indeed made the Quran easy to understand and remember, then is there any that will remember? (5432)
            And We have indeed made the Quran easy to understand and remember, then is there any that will remember? (5440)

            Peace

            Peace.
            Respectfully.

            Yeah, i agree with you totally, 100%.
            God has said that today He has made this religion perfect, which obviously means that no more adding or deleting by the enemies of Islam.
            If God allowed enemies of Islam to corrupt Qur'an, what woulkd that mean?
            That God cannot protect His own work?
            Glory be to Him.
            God can protect His work and God did protect His work.
            Glory be to Him.
            God also said that He will test us.

            No offence to anyone.

            Peace.

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              nerspi
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              peace all

              hmm... i have a question, ok so the quran was not changed, nothing was added, nothing left out from it, no corruption with it... but, what about translations and interpretations of it?

              sure the original message in original arabic is ok, but look at all these different translations, and interpretations that imply following hadith or doing some other things, or doing some things certain way... you know,
              are there only certain people that can interpret the quran? if yes... who? you? me?

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                belH
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                To say verses are missing/added is a major contradiction and nonsense talk which appeals to the naive mislead with hearsay and simple math tricks as case of 19.

                Both falsities are based on hearsay and selective/manipulative inputs to gain a desired output.

                A simple example?

                Try scrambling/shifting the 70 or so words in inheritance verse 411 to view impact.

                That's 70! = 1.19785717 ? 10^100 different possible sentences with same Geometrical Value!

                http//www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=active&q=70%21

                10^100 is a GOOGLE or 2 times possible # of verses than there are electrons in the known universe!

                Qur'an is protected as a song in the minds of people preserved in recital, a commandment from God since beginning?

                Bismi Allhi Ar-Ramni Ar-Rami
                Alif-Lam-Meem

                Certainly, We have made this easy in your tongue, in order that they may remember. (445
                And We have indeed made the Quran easy to understand and remember, then is there any that will remember? (5417)
                And We have indeed made the Quran easy to understand and remember, then is there any that will remember? (5422)
                And We have indeed made the Quran easy to understand and remember, then is there any that will remember? (5432)
                And We have indeed made the Quran easy to understand and remember, then is there any that will remember? (5440)

                Peace

                The only think that I understood from your post is your agreeing in Quran purity, which I admire you for--May God Bless you. But, please forgive my ignorance when it comes to math.
                God Bless

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                  belH
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                  peace all

                  hmm... i have a question, ok so the quran was not changed, nothing was added, nothing left out from it, no corruption with it... but, what about translations and interpretations of it?

                  sure the original message in original arabic is ok, but look at all these different translations, and interpretations that imply following hadith or doing some other things, or doing some things certain way... you know,
                  are there only certain people that can interpret the quran? if yes... who? you? me?

                  salam
                  I believe that God will lead the people who are looking for his path, even if they do not understand the orginal language of the books, to understand his message. How? I do not know; but I trust my Lord in that.
                  Peace

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                    belH
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                    Peace.
                    Respectfully.

                    Yeah, i agree with you totally, 100%.
                    God has said that today He has made this religion perfect, which obviously means that no more adding or deleting by the enemies of Islam.
                    If God allowed enemies of Islam to corrupt Qur'an, what woulkd that mean?
                    That God cannot protect His own work?
                    Glory be to Him.
                    God can protect His work and God did protect His work.
                    Glory be to Him.
                    God also said that He will test us.

                    No offence to anyone.

                    Peace.

                    God Bless

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