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Why were these unique versions of the Qur'an later destroyed by fire?

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    afridi220
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    Assalaamu wa alaikum

    We can argue forever.
    The question remains where is the original quran.

    Only Bukhari and his narrators can answer this question is there any proof that the copies of Quran were burned by Othman.
    peace peace

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      anna
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      You do not know that Quran is the spoken word. You say things like do you read Quran. How can you read a spoken word? You can read a Kitaab, you cannot read a Quran. You can hear a Quran.

      Allah is all powerful. Allah can use a voice and different language if he so chooses, your words cannot take away from the power of Allah to do as he chooses. Scribes did not write a Quran, scribes wrote a Kitaab.

      You can use your brain like any kafir, munafiq, and mushrik. They use their brain a lot and go further astray.
      Learn to submit your rebellious brain to the words of Allah.

      Allah is mighty wise.

      BEAUTIFULLY SAID bravo bravo bravo
      thats was more of spritual response,...... as for the quran was burnt, i beleive the original quran as in the book was
      burnt, from my understanding...and yes the quran will always be protected, more in the hearts of those who want gods light then actually the book itself, yes god said he will protect the quran and he has
      lets say someone comes today and adds to the quran and makes millions of copies whats to stop him. then the quran is no longer protected, but wait IT IS protected BECAUSE GOD HAS A SYSTEM THAT WILL PROTECT IT....... lmudathir

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        khyaletanzim
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        Dear Friends,

        Everyone can make stories but no one can produce authenticated copy with differences even by the major sects who differ in their ideology very much but still they do not differ in the manuscript. This is the simple fact and to me a miracle. Believe it or reject it.

        Regards.

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          pvb
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          LOL!! khyaletanzim Because they were all burned.

          I know Quran only people do not follow hadith because they are not from Allah.

          That does not mean it isn't a fact that happened in history.

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            Ahmad_Bilal
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            Peace pvb,

            I know Quran only people do not follow hadith because they are not from Allah.

            That does not mean it isn't a fact that happened in history.

            This is absolutely correct. Instead of saying they disbelieve in everything that has the word "hadiyth" above it, they should get all their RELIGIOUS GUIDANCE from the Quran alone. Just because it's written in the ahadith and sunna doesn't mean the information isn't historically correct.

            Peace,

            Ahmad

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              Dayaan
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              Apply scientific method
              -Experiment what it says
              -See the results
              If the results are same as AQ claims, it proves everything otherwise nothing, in both cases code19 is useless.

              I do not believe in the God of theology who rewards good and punishes evil. My God created laws that take care of that. His universe is not ruled by wishful thinking, but by immutable laws. Einstein

              That's quite interesting except that the end of your 'experiment' is Judgment Day, by then it will be too late for you to decide to become a believer and follow God's message in the Qur'an. In fact the Qur'an has many Surah passages that refer to Judgment Day. One of my favorites is 262 (taken from Muhammad Asad's English translation of 'The Message of the Qur'an)
              Verily, those who have attained to faith , as well as those who follow the Jewish faith, and the Christians, and the Sabians* -- all who believe in God and the Last Day and do righteous deeds -- shall have their reward with their Sustainer; and no fear need they have, and neither shall they grieve.**

              *Sabians are most likely followers of John the Baptist
              **(from Asad) The above passage -- which recurs in the Qur'an several times -- lays down a fundamental doctrine of Islam. With a breadth of vision unparalleled in any other religious faith, the idea of "salvation" is here made conditional upon three elements only belief in God, belief in the Day of Judgment, and righteous action in life.

              Truly Islam is God's final revealed message and is meant to complete or restore the messages that we have from the Torah and Bible, yet God is not shutting out the righteous who believe in Him and His Day of Judgment and who do good works while on Earth. I am sorry that Einstein failed to see that the beautiful, immutable laws of physics were made by a powerful God believed in by Muslims, Jews and Christians alike. We were all given free will and we have been given this so that we might choose to live righteously and do good works and grow closer to God so that in His infinite Compassion and Mercy He will choose to bring us with Him to Heaven or we mistakenly choose otherwise.

              Salaam alaikum

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                Dayaan
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                Dear Friends,

                Everyone can make stories but no one can produce authenticated copy with differences even by the major sects who differ in their ideology very much but still they do not differ in the manuscript. This is the simple fact and to me a miracle. Believe it or reject it.

                Regards.

                Differences are not found because the Qur'an was not written down immediately. It was memorized by Mohamed and his early followers. Even today we have people who have memorized the entire Qur'an and can recite it perfectly. Even if every copy of the Qur'an is burned, we have these people who have memorized it. This is the miracle and the beauty of the Qur'an. This cannot be said of the Torah or the Bible. We do not have Jesus' words in the original Aramaic because no one painstakingly memorized his words. The Qur'an is something different. God's words through the angel Gabriel to Mohamed were so important and miraculous that they were memorized. I have met Westerners who could memorize something after hearing or reading it once. This is a gift that I don't have. In graduate school there was a fellow chemistry student who could quote from any page of a chemistry text that he had read once. The professor would ask a question and if no one else answered, this guy would rattle off something that would start out like "on page 262 in the fourth paragraph ..." It was uncanny, but these abilities do exist and the fact that we have these identical copies of the Qur'an from various sects all agreeing with one another points to the fact that there was no original copy which has been lost. The Qur'an lives in each generation where there are people who memorize it in its entirety.

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                  pvb
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                  http//www.aramaicpeshitta.com/

                  check it out- aramaic Gospels!!

                  http//www.aramaicpeshitta.com/AramaicNTtools/Peshittainterlinear/4_John/Yukhnch1.pdf

                  Memorizing is good, the problem comes when people started being killed in battle and verses lost completely or one of the memorizers. Two people had to have the verses memorized for it to be included in the Quran.

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                    Bahman
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                    Peace khodr

                    bahman,

                    what can come from someone who whorships a dead liar except more lies?

                    i challenge you to post that the image from the book of your idol on page 671 or from here
                    http//www.submission.org/quran/app24.html

                    the readers will not be fooled by your lie.

                    I notice you are badly disturbed 7431 )
                    Instead accusing me please read the article carefully and post your comments.
                    this is not mine you can help to find the truth )

                    Peace
                    I googled "why original quran was burned"
                    and response was
                    Results 1 - 10 of about 1,040,000 for why original quran was burned. (0.04 seconds)
                    This was second oee
                    http//www.harvardhouse.com/quran_purity.htm
                    My response to 1,040,000 is this
                    What is your response to such question.
                    What is your proof that Quran is protected?
                    Peace.

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                      Alen
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                      Peace
                      I googled "why original quran was burned"
                      and response was
                      Results 1 - 10 of about 1,040,000 for why original quran was burned. (0.04 seconds)
                      This was second oee
                      http//www.harvardhouse.com/quran_purity.htm
                      My response to 1,040,000 is this
                      What is your response to such question.
                      What is your proof that Quran is protected?
                      Peace.

                      Peace,
                      Respectfully.

                      1736 And do not uphold what you have no knowledge of. For the hearing, eyesight, and mind, all these you are responsible for.

                      Always verify everything you see and hear.
                      Glory be to our God.

                      Peace.

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