Question for Arnold Yasin - God does not break his laws

arnoldyasin

2277 O you who acknowledge, kneel and
prostrate and serve your Lord and do
good that you may succeed.
2278 Strive in the cause of God properly. He
is the One who has chosen you, and He
has made no hardship for you in the
system, the creed of your father
Abraham; He is the One who named
you 'those who have peacefully
surrendered' from before as well as in
this. So let the messenger be witness
over you and you be witness over
people. So hold the contact prayer and
contribute towards betterment and hold
tight to God, He is your patron. What
an excellent Patron, and what an
excellent Supporter.

Does this mean we are all Prophets now?

unknownuser

Peace Arnold,

What has being guided to do with being a Prophet? Nothing! We are guided too by the Qur'an, are we Prophets? So your question is pointless.

No, and as stated before...

From their fathers is a subset. The same logic would assume all had children and brothers guided as well.

1946 He said "Are you turning away from my gods, you Abraham? If you do not stop, I will stone you, and leave me a long/life time."

127-8 In Joseph and his brothers (there) had been signs/evidences to the askers/questioners. When they said "Joseph, and his brother, (are) more lovable to our father than us, and we (are) a group, that truly our father (is) in clear/evident misguidance."

arnoldyasin

This is a weak argument as this refers to some of them being guided or not, this does not refer to not having a father or not.

But we can agree to disagree on this.

unknownuser

This is a weak argument as this refers to some of them being guided or not, this does not refer to not having a father or not.

But we can agree to disagree on this.

If stated ALL then Qur'an would contradict and I could never agree to that.

Peace

Ghazal

2277 O you who acknowledge, kneel and
prostrate and serve your Lord and do
good that you may succeed.
2278 Strive in the cause of God properly. He
is the One who has chosen you, and He
has made no hardship for you in the
system, the creed of your father
Abraham; He is the One who named
you 'those who have peacefully
surrendered' from before as well as in
this. So let the messenger be witness
over you and you be witness over
people. So hold the contact prayer and
contribute towards betterment and hold
tight to God, He is your patron. What
an excellent Patron, and what an
excellent Supporter.

Does this mean we are all Prophets now?

Dear Arnold
You are doing exactly what Dr Shabbir is doing on his website.
The exact verses under discussion are
(84) (85) (86) (87) (8 (89)

After mentioning all these names ,their fathers ,brothers ,descendants ,Allah says these are people who were given by us
-Kitaab
-Alhukm
-Nabuwwat

Is this talk about prophets or not ?

arnoldyasin

Verse 89 is clearly refering to the Prophets mentioned in verses 83 till 86, which more logical. If you disagree, then we are disagreeing.

Peace

Ghazal

There is no sense in excluding verse 87 group.You know Dr Shabbir style.

After this I am out of this discussion.

belH

Peace Arnold Yasin

How about the following acts by God, what do you call them?

1- When God sent a table of food from heaven to Jesus and his Disciples

Behold! the Disciples said "O Jesus the son of Mary! can thy Lord send down to us a table set (with viands) from heaven?" Said Jesus "Fear Allah if ye have faith." (5-112) They said "We only wish to eat thereof and satisfy our hearts, and to know that thou hast indeed told us the truth; and that we ourselves may be witnesses to the miracle. (5-113) Said Jesus the son of Mary "O Allah our Lord! send us from heaven a Table set (with viands), that there may be for us for the first and the last of us a solemn festival and a sign from Thee; and provide for our sustenance, for Thou art the best Sustainer (of our needs). (5-114) Allah said "I will send it down unto you but if any of you after that resisteth faith I will punish him with a penalty such as I have not inflicted on anyone among all the peoples. (5-115)

2-When God made Mary pregnant with Christ, without a male intervention

Behold! the angels said "O Mary! Allah giveth thee glad tidings of a Word from Him his name will be Christ Jesus, the son of Mary held in honour in this world and the Hereafter and of (the company of) those nearest to Allah. (3-45) "He shall speak to the people in childhood And in maturity and he shall be (of the company) of the righteous." (3-46) She said "O my Lord! how shall I have a son when no man hath touched me?" He said "Even so Allah createth what He willeth; when He hath decreed a plan, He but saith to it `Be', and it is! (3-47)

3- When God made the Fire Cool

We said "O Fire! Be thou cool, and (a means of)) safety for Abraham!" (21-69)

4- When God divided the Sea

Then We told Moses by inspiration "Strike the sea with thy rod." So it divided, and each separate part become like the huge, firm mass of a mountain. (26-63)

5- When God lifted the Mountain on the top of The Children of Israeli

And remember We took your covenant and We raised above you the towering height of Mount (Sinai) (saying) "Hold firmly to what We have given you and bring (ever) to remembrance what is therein perchance ye may fear Allah." (63)

6- When God spoke to Moses, made his stick a sneak, and his hand white

Has the story of Moses reached thee? (20-9) Behold, he saw a fire so he said to his family "Tarry ye; I perceive a fire; perhaps I can bring you some burning brand therefrom or find some guidance at the fire." (10) But when he came to the fire, a voice was heard "O Moses! (11) "Verily I am thy Lord! Therefore (in My presence) put off thy shoes thou art in the sacred valley Tuwa. (12) "I have chosen thee listen then, to the inspiration (sent to thee). (13) "Verily I am Allah there is no god but I so serve thou Me, (only) and establish regular prayer for celebrating My praise. (14) "Verily the Hour is coming My design is to keep it hidden for every soul to receive its reward by the measure of its Endeavour. (15) "Therefore let not such as believe not therein but follow their own lusts, divert thee therefrom, lest thou perish!" (16) And what is that in thy right hand, O Moses?" (17) He said "It is my rod on it I lean; with it I beat down fodder for my flocks; and in it I find other uses." (1 (Allah) said "Throw it, O Moses!" (19) He threw it, and behold! it was a snake, active in motion. (20) (Allah) said "Seize it, and fear not We shall return it at once to its former condition"? (21) Now draw thy hand close to thy side it shall come forth white (and shining), without harm (or stain) as another Sign (22) "In order that We may show thee (two) of Our Greater Signs. (23)

7- How about prophet Salmon and David power that were given to them by God (e.g., speak to birds, control the wind and Jin)

I call these direct interventions by God.

Peace

arnoldyasin

Peace,

And I call them mistranslations, misunderstandings of the Arabic idioms and contradictions with the Quranic message.

I have answered your answers in this essay

http//deenrc.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/the-evolution-of-thinking.pdf

belH

8- How about the animal that God will make him speak?

(&#1634

And when the Word is fulfilled against them (the unjust), We shall produce from the earth an animal (Daba) to speak to them saying for that mankind did not believe with assurance in our Signs (verses). (27-82)

9- How about the Cave People who slept for 309 years, and then woke up?

Or dost thou reflect that the Companions of the Cave and of the Inscription were wonders among Our Signs? (18-9) Behold, the youths betook themselves to the Cave they said "Our Lord! Bestow on us Mercy from Thyself, and dispose of our affair for us in the right way! (10) Then We drew (a veil) over their ears, for a number of years, in the Cave, (so that they heard not) (11) Then We roused them, in order to test which of the two parties was best at calculating the term of years they had tarried! (12) We relate to thee their story in truth they were youths who believed in their Lord, and We advanced them in guidance (13) We gave strength to their hearts behold, they stood up and said "Our Lord is the Lord of the heavens and of the earth never shall we call upon any god other than Him if we did; we should indeed have uttered an enormity!" (14) "These our people have taken for worship gods other than Him why do they not bring forward an authority clear (and convincing) for what they do? Who doth more wrong than such as invent a falsehood against Allah? (15) "When ye turn away from them and the things they worship other than Allah betake yourselves to the Cave your Lord will shower His mercies on you and dispose of your affair towards comfort and ease." (16) Thou wouldst have seen the sun, when it rose, declining to the right from their Cave, and when it set, turning away from them to the left while they lay in the open space in the midst of the Cave. Such are among the Signs of Allah he whom Allah guides; but he whom Allah leaves to stray for him wilt thou find no protector to lead him to the Right Way. (17) Thou wouldst have deemed them awake, whilst they were asleep, and We turned them on their right and their left sides their dog stretching forth his two forelegs on the threshold if thou hadst come up on to them, thou wouldst have certainly turned back from them in flight, and wouldst certainly have been filled with terror of them. (1 Such (being their state), We raised them up (from sleep), that they might question each other. Said one of them "How long have ye stayed (here)?" They said "We have stayed (perhaps) a day or part of a day." (At length) they (all) said "Allah (alone) knows best how long ye have stayed here...Now send ye then one of you with this money of yours to the town let him find out which is the best food (to be had) and bring some to you, that (ye may satisfy hunger therewith) and let him behave with care and courtesy, and let him not inform anyone about you. (19) "For if thy should come upon you, they would stone you or force you to return to their cult, and in that case ye would never attain prosperity." (20) Thus did We make their case known to the people, that they might know that the promise of Allah is true, and that there can be no doubt about the Hour of Judgment. Behold, they dispute among themselves as to their affair. (Some) said "Construct a building over them" their Lord knows best about them those who prevailed over their affair said "Let us surely build a place of worship over them." (21) (Some) say they were three, the dog being the fourth among them; (others) say they were five, the dog being the sixth doubtfully guessing at the unknown; (yet others) say they were seven, the dog being the eighth. Say thou "My Lord knoweth best their number; it is but few that know their (real case)." Enter not, therefore, into controversies concerning them, except on a matter that is clear, nor consult any of them about (the affair of) the Sleepers. (22) Nor say of anything, "I shall be sure to do so and so tomorrow" (23) Without adding, "So please Allah!" And call thy Lord to mind when thou forgettest, and say "I hope that my Lord will guide me ever closer (even) than this to the right road." (24) So they stayed in their Cave three hundred years, and (some) add nine (more). (25)

10- How about the Person who destroyed the poor people ship, Killed a Kid, and built a fence in a top of treasure, following God?s orders?

So they found one of Our servants on whom We had bestowed Mercy from Ourselves and whom We had taught knowledge from Our own presence. (18-65) Moses said to him "May I follow thee, on the footing that thou teach me something of the (Higher) Truth which thou hast been taught?" (66) (The other) said "Verily thou wilt not be able to have patience with me! (67) "And how canst thou have patience about things about which thy understanding is not complete?" (6 Moses said "Thou wilt find me, if Allah so will (truly) patient nor shall I disobey thee in aught." (69) The other said "If then thou wouldst follow me, ask me no questions about anything until I myself speak to thee concerning it." (70) So they both proceeded until, when they were in the boat, he scuttled it. Said Moses "Hast thou scuttled it in order to drown those in it? Truly a strange thing hast thou done!" (71) He answered "Did I not tell thee that thou canst have no patience with me?" (72) Moses said "Rebuke me not for forgetting, nor grieve me by raising difficulties in my case." (73) Then they proceeded until, when they met a young man, he slew him. Moses said "Hast thou slain an innocent person who had slain none? Truly a foul (unheard-of) thing hast thou done!" (74) He answered "Did I not tell thee that thou canst have no patience with me?" (75) (Moses) said "If ever I ask thee about anything after this, keep me not in thy company then wouldst thou have received (full) excuse from my side." (76) Then they proceeded until, when they came to the inhabitants of a town, they asked them for food, but they refused them hospitality. They found there a wall on the point of falling down, but he set it up straight. (Moses) said "If thou hadst wished, surely thou couldst have exacted some recompense for it!" (77) He answered "This is the parting between me and thee now will I tell thee the interpretation of (those things) over which thou wast unable to hold patience. (7 As for the boat, it belonged to certain men in dire want they plied on the water I but wished to render it unserviceable, for there was after them a certain king who seized on every boat by force. (79) "As for the youth his parents were people of Faith, and we feared that he would grieve them by obstinate rebellion and ingratitude (to Allah and man). (80) "So we desired that their Lord would give them in exchange (a son) better in purity (of conduct) and closer in affection. (81) "As for the wall it, belonged to two youths, orphans in the Town; there was, beneath it, a buried treasure, to which they were entitled their father had been a righteous man so thy Lord desired that they should attain their age of full strength and get out their treasure a mercy (and favour) from thy Lord. I did it not of my own accord. Such is the interpretation of (those things) over which thou wast unable to hold patience." (82)

11- How about the person whom God made him and his donkey dead for 100 years; and then made them alive again?

Or (take) the similitude of one who passed by a hamlet, all in ruins to its roofs. He said "Oh! how shall Allah bring it (ever) to life, after (this) its death?" But Allah caused him to die for a hundred years, then raised him up (again). He said "How long didst thou tarry (thus)?" He said "(perhaps) a day or part of a day." He said "Nay, thou hast tarried thus a hundred years; but look at thy food and thy drink; they show no signs of age; and look at thy donkey and that We may make of thee a Sign unto the people Look further at the bones, how We bring them together and clothe them with flesh! When this was shown clearly to him he said "I know that Allah hath power over all things." (2-259)

These examples are not in your mentioned research, what do you think about them?

arnoldyasin

37 He is the One who sent down to you the
book, from which there are definite
signs; they are the essence of the book;
and others, which are multiple-meaning.
As for those who have disease in their
hearts, eager to cause confusion and
eager to derive their interpretation, they
will follow what is multiple-meaning
from it. But none knows their meaning
except God and those who are well
founded in knowledge; they say, "We
acknowledge it, all is from our Lord."
None will remember except the people
of intellect.

We must never forget that Qur'an also uses allegories.

belH

37 He is the One who sent down to you the
book, from which there are definite
signs; they are the essence of the book;
and others, which are multiple-meaning.
As for those who have disease in their
hearts, eager to cause confusion and
eager to derive their interpretation, they
will follow what is multiple-meaning
from it. But none knows their meaning
except God and those who are well
founded in knowledge; they say, "We
acknowledge it, all is from our Lord."
None will remember except the people
of intellect.

We must never forget that Qur'an also uses allegories.

The stories I mentioned are decisive Verses (definite
signs) and not Allegories.

Please answer my Question?

arnoldyasin

The stories I mentioned are decisive Verses (definite
signs) and not Allegories.

Please answer my Question?

What is your proof for that?

belH

What is your proof for that?

A decisive verse is a verse that can only be interpreted one way;

Thus

And when the Word is fulfilled against them (the unjust), We shall produce from the earth an animal (Daba) to speak to them saying for that mankind did not believe with assurance in our Signs (verses). (27-82)

Can only be interpreted as an Animal Will Speak To Humans.

So they stayed in their Cave three hundred years, and (some) add nine (more). (18-25)

Can only be interpreted as they stayed for 309 years in the Cave.

Allah caused him to die for a hundred years, then raised him up (again). (2-259)

Can only be interpreted as what it says, died for 100 years and then raised him and his donkey after 100 years.

The same goes for all the Quranc examples that I mentioned in my 11 examples, They are decisive and can only interpreted one way.

Please let me know if you think the meaning can be understood differently, which means All are Allegories verses.

belH

12- How about the following example of God Direct intervention, by making them dead and then alive

Didst thou not turn by vision to those who abandoned their homes though they were thousands (in number), for fear of death? Allah said to them "Die." then He restored them to life. For Allah is full of bounty to mankind, but most of them are ungrateful. (2-243)

arnoldyasin

A decisive verse is a verse that can only be interpreted one way;

That is a very subjective opinion not a fact.

And when the Word is fulfilled against them (the unjust), We shall produce from the earth an animal (Daba) to speak to them saying for that mankind did not believe with assurance in our Signs (verses). (27-82)

Can only be interpreted as an Animal Will Speak To Humans.

In Arabic, ANYTHING THAT WALKS ON THE EARTH is called a so it has nothing to with an animal specifically, it can talk about humans or even an alien species talking to mankind in the far future.

So they stayed in their Cave three hundred years, and (some) add nine (more). (18-25)

Can only be interpreted as they stayed for 309 years in the Cave.

See for example Muhammed Ali

25a. Commentators consider this verse as being conjoined to v. 22 with the words
they say as being understood. But as shown in 22a, the history of Christianity, which
runs like an undercurrent in the story of the Companions of the Cave, finds a clear
expression now. There is no tradition that the Companions of the Cave remained in the
Cave for three hundred years, but Christianity itself remained in a Cave for full three
hundred years. It is a fact that Christianity rose to power with the conversion of
Constantine, and at the same time it lost its purity with the formulation of the doctrine of
the Trinity, which was promulgated in 325 A.D. It is, moreover, now almost agreed that
Jesus Christ was born five or six years before the reputed date of his birth. Bishop
Barnes says in The Rise of Christianity that he may have been born in 65 B.C. So if he
began his ministry at the age of thirty, the Christian religion may be said to have been
born at about 25 A.D., and thus exactly after three hundred years it lost its purity by the
promulgation of the Trinitarian doctrine, emerging at the same time as a State religion.
Thus it remained in the Cave for three hundred years.
But what does this, the addition of nine years, mean? To reduce solar years to lunar
years, three years have to be added to every hundred years, and to the three centuries
another nine years are thus added. It is due to this computation that nine years are
spoken of as being added.
http//www.muslim.org/english-quran/ch018-65.pdf

He understands it as representing the deviation of Christianity after 300 years.

Allah caused him to die for a hundred years, then raised him up (again). (2-259)

Can only be interpreted as what it says, died for 100 years and then raised him and his donkey after 100 years.

I have discussed that in my essay

When we look at verses 2258 where a discussion is going on between Abraham and man, probably a ruler. Abraham says that only Allah really gives life and death, hajat and maut. These two words can be applied to humans, plants as well as nations. In 2259 we see a story on a person that walks through a city which is called dead and he wonders how God can revive it, thus making it alive with people again and make it flourish. God gives a metaphor that it is like any other resurrection. A revival of nation must, like the resurrection, follow the Divine Laws of Nature. In line with the previous verses, 2260 talks about the revival of nations as Abraham is promised a might nation and offspring. Most people read into it that Abraham cut up the birds and then call them, but the sentence preceding it tells us that he must bring the birds close to him, in other words, train and tame them, so they will respond to his call. So why train them and then cut them up? This is illogical. It is much simpler, the group was split up, the birds were not cut up, and put on every mountain. The birds were called and responded. In the same way will God train us through Revelation, the Quran, so we will respond to His call and be close to Him.

Abraham wanted to understand the Law of Revival of nations. Allah asked him if he believed that it were possible. Abraham said he believed but that he wanted a practical example to educate his heart and mind. Allah told him to take four birds and train them in a kind manner, and then to leave them far apart on separate hilltops. And then call them; they will come in haste. (At one call of Abraham, those birds came flying back to him. This is how mankind can be brought to the Word of Allah with decent training, giving them a new life). Know that this Wisdom comes to you from Allah, the Almighty, the Wise.
Page 32

http//deenrc.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/the-evolution-of-thinking.pdf

Also Muhammed Ali comes to a similair conclusion

259a. An illustration is afforded here from later Israelite history, as to how dead
nations are raised to life. By the town which had fallen in upon its roofs is meant
Jerusalem (Rz, AH), as it was left after its desolation by Nebuchadnezzar in 599 B.C.
The words look at the bones, how We set them together, then clothe them with
flesh, undoubtedly refer to Ezekiels vision as related in Ezekiel, ch. 37. The first part
of ch. 37 relates how Ezekiel was taken (in a vision) in the midst of the valley which
was full of bones, and asked, Son of man, can these bones live?

After a Divine assurance,
Ezekiel is made to witness the scene which is narrated here in the words Look
at the bones, how We set them together The bones came together, bone to his bone,
and the sinews and the flesh came upon them, and the skin covered them above, and
then the breath came into them, and they lived (Ezek. 37110). That what is narrated
in Ezekiel, ch. 37, is a vision is clear from the introductory words of that chapter The
hand of the Lord was upon me, and carried me out in the spirit of the Lord. What
follows the incident makes it still more clear, for verse 11 (Ezekiel, ch. 37) goes on to
say Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel Behold, they say, Our
bones are dried, and our hope is lost; while verse 12 gives them the Divine promise,
Behold, O My people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your
graves, and bring you into the land of Israel. This shows conclusively that the bones
were only a symbol of the fallen condition of the whole house of Israel. I lay stress upon
the word whole in Ezekiel 3711, because the actual bones were only of the very few
among them who were put to the sword, by far the greater number being in captivity or
held in a slavish condition in subjugation to the Babylonians.

The identical incident related in v. 259 is also a vision. The Qur?n usually dispenses
with words showing an incident to be a vision when either the context or the nature of
the incident or a reference to earlier history makes it clear that it is a vision. Compare
the words in which Joseph narrated his vision to his father in 124 O my father, I saw
eleven stars and the sun and the moon I saw them making obeisance to me, not
making any mention at all that he had seen this in a vision. In the verse under discussion,
however, it is not only its identity with Ezekiel 37110 that shows the incident to be a
vision, but the insertion of a k?f, signifying likeness, before the whole is a further indication
of the same. If the incident had been a real one, as in the previous verse, the verse
should have commenced with the words or him instead of or like him, the insertion of
the k?f giving the incident the colour of a parable or a vision.

The causing the prophet to die for a hundred years is also an incident of the vision
which, though not narrated in the Bible, is corroborated by facts, standing symbolically
for the death of the Jewish nation, a death of disgrace and sorrow, or the desolation of
Jerusalem, which covered a period of almost a hundred years. Jerusalem was taken by
Nebuchadnezzar in 599 B.C. (2 Kings 2410); Cyrus gave permission to rebuild the temple
in 537 B.C. (Ezra 12), the house being eventually finished in 515 B.C. (Ezra 615).
The Bible does not give us the history of the period from 515 B.C., and even if we are
not allowed to conjecture that another fifteen years may have been taken by the Israelites
to settle back in Jerusalem and to rebuild the city itself for their own habitation, the period
from 599 to 515 B.C. covers almost fully the whole of the sixth century B.C., and
hence the hundred years of the prophets death in this vision represent the hundred years
of the death of the Israelite nation.

The reference to the food and drink of the prophet, which did not show any
influence of years, and to his ass, which was still standing by, only proves that the hundred
years death which the prophet underwent was only a vision. The mention of the
bones has been taken by some commentators to refer to the ass, but this is an obvious
error, for the two statements are separated by a sentence And that We may make thee a
sign to men; and there is also a pause after the word ass, separating what follows from
that which has preceded.
How was Ezekiel a sign to the people? Because the vision made him a symbol of the
whole Jewish nation, and his symbolic death for a hundred years represented the
sorrows and afflictions of Israel for a similar period, after which they were once more to
be restored to life.
The word yatasannah (sanah, a year) means the thing underwent the lapse of years.
The word applied to food and drink carries a similar significance, meaning it became
altered (for the worse) by the lapse of years (LA, LL). Rz explains the lapse of years to
be the real meaning of the word, for his explanation is the years did not pass over it.
This shows that actually there was no lapse of years, and it is simply a vision.

http//www.muslim.org/english-quran/ch002-e.pdf

So you can understand them very differently then literal. The Qur'an must be taken as a whole, not just picking 1 or 2 verses and only focussing on those.

Dear Belmuhammed, please study for example Muhammed Ali's translation or Shabbir's if you want to learn more understandings.

In the Qur'an, death and life is mostly used for nations. So the nations died and relived again according to them following God's Laws or not.

belH

How about example 10 and 12

arnoldyasin

Dear Belmuhammed, please study for example Muhammed Ali's translation or Shabbir's if you want to learn more understandings.

In the Qur'an, death and life is mostly used for nations. So the nations died and relived again according to them following God's Laws or not.

Dear Belmuhammed, I have discussed these questions many times before on this forum. Also most of your questions have been answered by genius writers as Muhammed Ali and Muhammed Asad. Please study those.

http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=16877.msg169271#msg169271

1861 But when Moses with his young friend reached the junction of the two
streams, they forgot all about the fish. And it took it disappeared into the sea. (Moses found himself caring little for the delicacies of life from then on.)
1862 And after the two had walked some distance, Moses said to his young friend, Bring us our lunch, the journey has been tiring.

1879 "As for the boat, it belonged to poor people working on the river, and I
wished to make it defective. For, behind them was a king who was taking
every (good) boat by force.

1880 And as for the lad, his parents were true believers whereas we had
every reason to fear that he would bring bitter grief upon them by rebellion and disbelief.
1881 And so we desired that their Sustainer grant them, instead of him, a
child better in purity of conduct and affection.

1882 As for the wall, it belonged to two orphan boys in the town. And there
was a treasure for them, beneath the wall. Their late father was a righteous
man, and your Lord wanted them to grow up to full maturity and then extract
their treasure as a Mercy from your Lord.

belH

Verily, when He intends a thing, His command is "Be" and it is! (36-82)

That is the decisive verse, God will intervene any time he wishes to, as he did in all the TRUE examples that I mentioned before, which you and others made their meaning look differently by a very unintelligent arguments.

God raveled the Quran in Arabic-easy-words that can be understood by an 8 years old Arabic speaker Child.

Your interpretation of the 12 examples shows your unintentional or intentional lack of understanding Arabic.

Let me ask you or any other reader a question, have any one of you saw a dream about an event, and then this event happen after that; in other words did any of you had a knowledge of future?

unknownuser

Let me ask you or any other reader a question, have any one of you saw a dream about an event, and then this event happen after that; in other words did any of you had a knowledge of future?

O' about a dozen times a year... ;D

See thread topic Time and D?j? vu dreams

http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=13232.msg110315#msg110315

Peace