zakat = charity, no such reference in Al-Quran
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Peace bro
pointing out inconsistencies in translations is a good thing to do as we all labour with the in-built ideologies of sunni translations.
But my point is a more general one (and probably doesnt belong on this thread ) - namely - even if al-quran is consistent in its use of prepositions we still don't have any extra textual material to indicate what those usages are. The 'literal' meaning of a prepostion is a moot thing anyway since they don't, in and of themselves, mean anything - they simply help us to order the relationships between nouns, verbs, adverbs etc.
Hence we can get puzzled about how to give "from charity" (min zakatin) when we attempt a literal understanding of that English phrase but have little difficulty in understanding the general injunction - be charitable. In this sense the translation as "for charity" may be more correct than a literal translation because it conveys the sense of the phrase better in english.....but i know thats a slippy slope wink (and thats before we even get on to the fact the zakah/sadaqah issue)
You must forgive the half-formed nature of the arguement - I have little to back it up other than a sense that we devote too much attention to the "min' and not enougth to the "zakatin." ... if you see what I mean.
wa salaam
asdfjk
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peace bro,
I understand your point. But for me, I prefer a literal translation then allowing reader interpretation NOT translator interpretation then allowing further reader interpretation. I want to eliminate* translator interpretation.
*or reduce it to a negligible level
Before I forget, there was a verse implying the opposite of not producing zakat is doing good deeds. I cant remember specifics, but I thought I'd mention it.
I located the implication by contrast
M&S Ahmed
"Those who do not give/bring the charity/purification , and they are with the end (other life), they are disbelieving."
"That truly those who believed and made/did the correct/righteous deeds, for them (is) a reward/wage not interrupted/weakened (continuous)."Wakas
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Salaam Doc,
Zakath means spending from what we have earned
Sadaqaa means Giving Away generously what Allah had Bestowed upon usHow'd you get these two meanings? Can what you have earned be what God has given you? Your definitions almost seem to blend in with anfal in ayat 81.
Joe
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Assalaamoalaikum,
My brother asked about Zakat in Quran and also the percentage given as zakat.In Glorious Quran allah has stated as follows.
'Was he not informed of the teachings in the scripture of Moses?''
Now we see in Torah as follows
Share one tenth (tithe) our your produce with the Levite, the poor, the widow, the orphan, and the stranger.Deutronomy (1422-2 .However, we are allowed and encouraged to give any additional from our excess for other charity outside of the obligatory amount (Quran 2219).
The zakat should be given "UPON THE HARVEST"this means that we should give Zakat at the time we get our return of our efforts in earning money ,most convenient time is monthly.and certainly not yearlyTherefor the the %age is 10%.
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Peace be upon you Kamal,
The word "zakaat" does not mean charity brother. The word "sadaqa" is charity. Zakaat means "purification". So when we read "mainatin salaat and bring forth zakaat", it means that we maintain our "salaat" and bring forth purification.
Further, the "torah" is not the first half of the so called Bible, the God has clearly told us "the excess".
Please read the above posts.
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subtle distinction about zakat & tahar
http//www.quranicteachings.co.uk/tazkiya.htm
From PRL
= Tay-ha-Ra = to be or become clean/pure or free of dirt, made it or caused it to be distant/remote, cleanse/wash/purify, refrain, remove oneself, to clear/clean, ablution.
= Zay-Kaf-Waw = it increased/augmented, it throve/grew well/flourished/prospered and produced fruit, it was/became pure, purification, goodness/righteousness, lead/enjoy a plentiful/easy/soft/delicate life, put into a good/right state/condition, alms, poor-rate/due
also, see 416-7 for an interesting observation.
Wakas
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peace be upon you All,
The more I think about 3039, the clearer it becomes. I would like to add a little to sister Rahila's insightful comments earlier in this thread
From PRL
= Ra-Ba-Waw = it increased/augmented, the practicing/taking of usury, excess/addition, become high/grown up/large/swollen/risen/out of breath, profiteering.
Taking into account my previous post, the meanings and core meaning of zkw, its clear that both zkw AND rbw are types of growth! No wonder the comparison is made. D
zkw = positive development/growth
rbw = excessive/profiteering development/growthIf one studies the non-financial usage of the root rbw, it implies abundant/numerous, thus clearly giving the excessive connotation.
And furthermore, the context provides more evidence, which initially alluded me because of translator distortion. I now read it as follows
(The coloured parts highlight both signs discuss the same thing. 3039 begins with "wama = and that" thus linking from the previous sign.)
So give the relative his due/share, and the poor, and the traveller. That is best for those who seek The God's consideration, and those are the successful.
And that which you give from/of rbw which grows in the people's wealth/money, it will not grow with The God. And that which you give from/of zkw seeking The God's consideration, then that will be multiplied.It is about giving.
We should not give from/of rbw, but give from/of zkw, i.e. the legitimate/pure/positive development/growth.
Traditional translators, like I've said before, forced their meaning of zkw on the sign/verse, hence losing its meaning, in my opinion.Wakas
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Peace all,
Are the following Arabic words correct or are there other Arabic words for the English ones? Do "tahir" and "zaka" have the same meaning? Thanks.
- Charity = Sadaqa (ة
- Giving = Minha (ة
- Tax = Dariba (ة
- Interest = Riba (ا, Faida (ة
- Usury = Riba Fahish ( ش
- Pure/Purity = Tahir (ر / Tahara (ة
- Sacrifice = Zabiha (ة
