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Where in the quran does it say to say 'pbuh' after prophet names?

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    Meek
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    As'salaamu Alaykum, Sis Samia...

    Thank you for the explanation, but could you please give me your translation of the entire verse (3356). I do not know any Arabic... only a few words that I've recently learned ;D... and I don't read it at all.

    Thank you,

    Peace and blessings!

    The Meek One, A Lady angel

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      LiesExposed
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      BUT WHERE IN QURAN DOES IT SAY P.B.U.H. AFTER NAMES LIKE IBRAHIM, YAKUB, ESA, NUH ETC. ETC.?

      Muhammad is a special case because he was alive at the time. We don't know how Muhammad referred to past prophets because that's sunnah and no sunnah is reliable. So far, I haven't seen P.B.U.H. after any past prophets' names in the quran. If Allah doesn't say to say PBUH after ALL prophets' names (not just Muhammad), why should I force myself to do what Allah hasn't asked me to do?

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        Hati
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        Salam,

        On the other hand, where in the Quran that forbids saying peace be upon him?

        Hati

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          Samia
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          Salam,

          On the other hand, where in the Quran that forbids saying peace be upon him?

          Hati

          Actually, I can say (peace be upon you) in English without raising any questions, but I cant say the Arabic version (salla allhu 3alaika) to you or to ANYONE else, although there's a verse that says that God and His angels (yussalluuna 3ala) us 3343; and He asked the prophet to (yussalli 3ala) those whom he takes charity from their money 9103, and the patient ones receive "salawaatun" from God upon them 2157.

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            Meek
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            Salam, All...

            Is there anyone who can translate the entire verse to arabic, but written so I can understand and look up translations myself? I can't read arabic writing. So, I'm not asking for it to be written in the Arabic language. Was that clear enough? Sorry, if I'm confusing anyone.

            Like for example... "The Opening" is English, but translated in Arabic it is "Al-Fatihah"... but it's not WRITTEN in Arabic writing. Another example English - "Praise be to God, Lord of the worlds"... in Arabic, "Al-Hamdu lillah rabb al-AAalameen" <---- this may not be totally correct, I've seen different versions of it's translation (wondering how or why) but, nonetheless; I think you get my point.

            Can anyone help me with this? I'm asking for the entire verse of surah 3356 to be translated as the examples above.

            And, to clarify... I am not looking to be a "difficult" Muslim... I simply wish to do whatever ALLAH asks or commands of me, to be the BEST Muslim that I can be, according to ALLAH's laws and the Qur'an (ALLAH's Laws). I do not wish to be a "traditional" or "labeled" Muslim... or to be divided within the beautiful way of ISLAM. Therefore, I believe that the way to be on ONE accord is to stick to the Qur'an. That way... everyone is following ALLAH's Straight Path!

            Peace and blessings!

            The Meek One, A Lady angel <---- Not looking to be a scholar... has no problem in being a student... for life!

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              Samia
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              Salaam Meek

              Then you should have asked for a "transliteration", not a translation. That's why I did not repond to your demand because I was confused as to why you would need a translation and it's all over this forum and the internet )

              Here is what you want (hope I got it right)

              innal-laha wa mala'ikatahu yussalluuna 3alan-nabiy. ya ayyuhal-latheena 'amanuu, ssalluu 3alaihi wa sallimuu tasleema.

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                Alen
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                (&#1638
                In verse 33-56, God asked the believers to do what God and his Angles do, that is "Saloo Alia wa Salmoo Taslima"
                The arabic words "Salo Alih waa salemo" can be translated to "Greatings and Prayers upon Him"; but the common use is "Peace Be Upon Him" (PBUH)
                Anyway, welcome
                May God Bless

                Peace,
                Respectfully.

                Do you know what you're saying?
                How do you greet a person whom you can't see now?
                Do you see any prophets there?
                We greet only those who can greet us back and whom we see.

                I can't greet my grandfather, because he cannot respond.
                I can greet my grandmother, because there is a slight chance that she will respond. And she does.

                See my point?
                Glory be to God.
                Peace.

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                  Meek
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                  Salaam, Sis Samia...

                  Thank you for the correction "transliteration", in stead of "translation". I will be checking on that.

                  Also, I'd like to add for others whom are interested in this topic... and this is, again, ONLY my interpretation of this verse (3356)

                  Where it says (in the version of the Qur'an that I have), "... call for blessings on him..." - The Prophet is in need of no more blessings at this time, because he has reached the uttermost of any blessings. He is with ALLAH! He is TRULY blessed to the greatest degree of blessings! How then can we ask or call for any more blessings than that? He has no need for this... or for the call of peace to be upon him, because he has also attained the greatest gift of peace... again, he is with ALLAH! Can one ask for or call for, or request any more peace upon another than this? The PEACE, at its greatest, has already been established for the Prophet. This is why I believe that this verse was referring to believers that were in the PRESENCE of the Prophet, because at that time, he was still here (a human in the world) who could always benefit from the "call for blessings" or a "(becoming) salutation".

                  ONLY my interpretation... but my mind is very open for correction or more detailed interpretation or understanding.

                  Peace and blessings!

                  The Meek One, A Lady angel

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                    huruf
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                    If we ask for blessings for the messenger, we are asking for blessings for the message... He passed the message, we want that the message goes on being passed with increased blessings, and the messengers today is us. So yes, let us ask for plente of blessings for the messenger so that we don't fail to pass it on.

                    Salaam

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                      Meek
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                      as'salaamu alaykum, Bro Huruf... peace

                      Thank you for your response. Point understood... and nice to meet you. peace

                      The Meek One, The Lady angel

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                        LiesExposed
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                        Salam,

                        On the other hand, where in the Quran that forbids saying peace be upon him?

                        Hati

                        Many things aren't in the quran; that's what led to so many sunnah innovations in the first place.

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                          belH
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                          Do you know what you're saying?

                          Why are you so upset; o

                          all I said was the Verse; I did not even paste the English translation from the source that I use (because I did not think it was right) the verse says ?oh who you Believe, Salwo Alih wa salemo taslima?. In the verse God ask (not me) the BELIEVERS to say what I wrote in Arabic, but the English translation is what I?m not sure about.

                          ONLY my interpretation... but my mind is very open for correction or more detailed interpretation or understanding.

                          The Meek One, A Lady angel

                          The Meek One, A Lady angel <---- Not looking to be a scholar... has no problem in being a student... for life!

                          peace

                          rotfl

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                            Meek
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                            as'salaamu alaykum...

                            Thanks again for the input.

                            May Allah bless and have mercy on us all... HE is ALL-KNOWING!

                            Peace and blessings!

                            The Meek One, A Lady angel

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                              Hati
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                              Many things aren't in the quran; that's what led to so many sunnah innovations in the first place.

                              Salam,

                              Thats why I m asking where in the Quran that forbid the use of PBUH ?

                              Hati

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                                IronSky
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                                Peace to all,

                                Hati, i think the point is that its not required, not that its forbidden,, you can say "fo shizzle " after there name if you want, since nothing in the Quran forbids saying that does it?

                                Kurt

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                                  Alen
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                                  Peace,
                                  Respectfully.

                                  I think a better questions needs to be asked"Why do sunnis get upset and insulted, when you mention prophet Muhammad and you don't add pbuh?"

                                  Of course, at that moment one is risking a punch in the face.... God forbid.
                                  Glor ybe to our God.
                                  God bless you all.
                                  Peace.

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                                    Dotty
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                                    Blessings to all,

                                    The Quran shows a lot of history, and many verses are meant for the believers at that time. The verses connected with the word prophet apply only during the prophet's life on earth. Right? Here's a verse that tells the believers not to raise their voice above the voice of the prophet.

                                    Yusuf Ali
                                    O ye who believe! Raise not your voices above the voice of the Prophet, nor speak aloud to him in talk, as ye may speak aloud to one another, lest your deeds become vain and ye perceive not.

                                    Since the prophet no longer has a voice, wouldn't this have ended when the Prophet died? The prophet is dead so how can we do this now?

                                    And here is a verse proving the prophet died (for the sake of argument).

                                    Yusuf Ali
                                    Truly thou wilt die, and truly they will die.

                                    So, one can also apply this to

                                    Yusuf Ali
                                    God and His angels send blessings on the Prophet O ye that believe! Send ye blessings on him, and salute him with all respect.

                                    I don't know of any place in the Quran that refers to the prophet as "Nabi" after his death.

                                    peace,
                                    dotty

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                                      Meek
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                                      Salaam, dotty... and nice meeting you!

                                      I have that interpretation as well... and if it is incorrect, may ALLAH have mercy on us and I trust that He will reveal the truth to those of us that seek ONLY HIM for our guidance and understanding through our reading and studying of the Qur'an.

                                      Peace and blessings... ALLAH knows best! peace

                                      The Meek One, A Lady angel

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                                        Dotty
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                                        Nice to meet you as well angel

                                        Surely we can be wrong in our perception of the truth. I go with what makes sense to me and constantly ask God to protect me from false religious teachings. I pray God protects us all.

                                        dotty

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                                          Dotty
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                                          Btw Meek... nice website!

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