Ramadhan Poll (Number of Days)
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Im goin with 3 or 4 days as meaning "a few", however i believe it can be ten also, i dont know thoe because ten seems to me alittle more than a few. Ten to me is a few x 2.
Agreement ( Fasting)
Desired results-
- Fast for 3 or 4 days in the month of Ramadan. 2184 - 185
Guidelines-
(1.) Fast for a few ( 3 or 4 ) number of days; however, if any of you is ill or traveling, then the same number from different days; and as for those who can do so but with difficulty, they may redeem by feeding the needy. And whoever does good voluntarily, then it is better for him. And if you fast it is better for you if you knew. 2184
(2.)It has been made lawful for you during the night of fasting to approach your women sexually. They are a garment for you and you are a garment for them. God knows that you used to betray your souls so He has accepted your repentance, and forgiven you; now you may approach them and seek what God has written for you. And you may eat and drink until the white thread is distinct from the black thread of dawn; then you shall complete the fast until night; and do not approach them while you are devoted in the temples. These are God?s boundaries, so do not transgress them. It is thus that God makes His revelations clear to the people that they may be righteous. 2187
(3.) And remember God during a few (3 or 4 ) number of days. Whoever hurries to two days, there is no sin upon him; and whoever delays, there is no sin upon him if he is being righteous. And be aware of God, and know that it is to Him that you will be gathered. 2203
Accountabilities-
(1.) Eat and drink until the white thread is distinct from the black thread of dawn; then complete the fast until night; 2187
Consequenses
Rewards -
3335 Surely, the submitting men, and the submitting women, the believing men, and the believing women, the dutiful men, and the dutiful women, the truthful men, and the truthful women, the patient men, and the patient women, the humble men, and the humble women, the charitable men, and the charitable women, the fasting men, and the fasting women, the men who keep covered their private parts, and the women who similarly keep covered, and the men who commemorate God frequently, and the commemorating women; God has prepared for them a forgiveness and a great recompense.
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salaam,
i have submitted other. here is my personal comprehension on some selected verses of al-baqarah (without prejudice, please).
peace
jb.
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Ya ayyuha allatheena amanoo kutiba AAalaykumu alssiyamu kama kutiba AAala allatheena min qablikum laAAallakum tattaqoona
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O you (pl.) who have believed, prescribed for you is self-restraint. It is similar to what was prescribed to those before you, so that perhaps you might be enlightened.
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Ayyaman maAAdoodatin faman kana minkum mareedan aw AAala safarin faAAiddatun min ayyamin okhara waAAala allatheena yuteeqoonahu fidyatun taAAamu miskeenin faman tatawwaAAa khayran fahuwa khayrun lahu waan tasoomoo khayrun lakum in kuntum taAAlamoona
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It is the few distinguishable days. Thus whoever among you is ill or on travel, several other days, and for those capable for it, a redress in a meal for the poor, thus whoever renders himself best in compliance, it is for his own good. And to exercise self-restrain is better for you, if you were to know.
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Shahru ramadana allathee onzila feehi alqur-anu hudan lilnnasi wabayyinatin mina alhuda waalfurqani faman shahida minkumu alshshahra falyasumhu waman kana mareedan aw AAala safarin faAAiddatun min ayyamin okhara yureedu Allahu bikumu alyusra wala yureedu bikumu alAAusra walitukmiloo alAAiddata walitukabbiroo Allaha AAala ma hadakum walaAAallakum tashkuroona
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It is a compelling disclosure when revealed therein the subjects for pondering as guidance for man and clarification, and also the separations of the guidance. Thus, whoever among you (pl.) who personally experience the disclosure, then he should perform his self-restraint, while whoever is ill or on travel, then several other days. God intends pleasant circumstances for you, and He does not intend the difficulty for you, so that you complete the count, and praise God for the fact that He has guided you, and so that perhaps you might be thankful.
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Wa-itha saalaka AAibadee AAannee fa-innee qareebun ojeebu daAAwata alddaAAi itha daAAani falyastajeeboo lee walyu/minoo bee laAAallahum yarshudoona
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And when My servants ask you (s) about Me, but then, verily I am close. I shall answer pleas of support when one pleads to Me. Let them answer My call and have faith in Me, so that perhaps they might follow the right way.
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Ohilla lakum laylata alssiyami alrrafathu ila nisa-ikum hunna libasun lakum waantum libasun lahunna AAalima Allahu annakum kuntum takhtanoona anfusakum fataba AAalaykum waAAafa AAankum faal-ana bashiroohunna waibtaghoo ma kataba Allahu lakum wakuloo waishraboo hatta yatabayyana lakumu alkhaytu al-abyadu mina alkhayti al-aswadi mina alfajri* thumma atimmoo alssiyama ila allayli | wala tubashiroohunna waantum AAakifoona fee almasajidi* tilka hudoodu Allahi fala taqrabooha kathalika yubayyinu Allahu ayatihi lilnnasi laAAallahum yattaqoona
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It is allowed for you (pl.) at the night of self-restraint, the obscenity toward your women. They are barriers for you, and you are barriers for them. God knew that you were outwitting yourselves, but then He has pardoned and restored His grace on you. So, you may announce the news to them, and aspire for what God has drafted for you. You (pl.) relish with gratification until it becomes clear to you the white from the black thread of the commencement. Then, you perform the self-restraint until the end. And dont have sex with them (f), when you take a retreat in reverance. That is Gods limits, so dont you come near it. Like that God clarifies His Ayat to man, so that perhaps they might be enlightened.
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Wala ta/kuloo amwalakum baynakum bialbatili watudloo biha ila alhukkami lita/kuloo fareeqan min amwali alnnasi bial-ithmi waantum taAAlamoona
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And do not relish in each others possessions by deceptions, when for them you (pl.) offer presents to the arbitrators, so that you may relish in some of other peoples possessions unlawfully, while you understand.
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Yas-aloonaka AAani al-ahillati qul hiya mawaqeetu lilnnasi waalhajji walaysa albirru bi-an ta/too albuyoota min thuhooriha walakinna albirra mani ittaqa wa/too albuyoota min abwabiha waittaqoo Allaha laAAallakum tuflihoona
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They ask you (s) about the commencement. Say, It is scheduled for the sake of man, and the persuasion. And it is not righteousness to perform meditations according to its manifestation, but then righteousness is whenever one is aware. And accomplish meditations properly, and be aware of God, so that perhaps you might be successful.
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Waqatiloo fee sabeeli Allahi allatheena yuqatiloonakum wala taAAtadoo inna Allaha la yuhibbu almuAAtadeena
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And you (pl.) strive in the path of God against those who strive against you, but do not transgress the limit. Verily, God does not like transgressors.
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Waoqtuloohum haythu thaqiftumoohum waakhrijoohum min haythu akhrajookum waalfitnatu ashaddu mina alqatli wala tuqatiloohum AAinda almasjidi alharami hatta yuqatilookum feehi fa-in qatalookum faoqtuloohum kathalika jazao alkafireena
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You (pl.) be moderate with them since you are to teach and cultivate their minds regarding what they have dismissed you. The dissent is worse than killing. And dont strive against them on the forbidden reverence, unless they strive against you in it. But if they strive against you, then you be moderate with them. Like that is the off-setting of disbelievers.
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Fa-ini intahaw fa-inna Allaha ghafoorun raheemun
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But if they cease, then God is mercifully forgiving.
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Waqatiloohum hatta la takoona fitnatun wayakoona alddeenu lillahi fa-ini intahaw fala AAudwana illa AAala alththalimeena
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You (pl.) strive against them until there is no dissent, and becomes the obligation to God. Therefore, if they cease, then there is no opposition, except against the prejudiced.
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Alshshahru alharamu bialshshahri alharami waalhurumatu qisasun famani iAAtada AAalaykum faiAAtadoo AAalayhi bimithli ma iAAtada AAalaykum waittaqoo Allaha waiAAlamoo anna Allaha maAAa almuttaqeena
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Forbidden disclosure is against forbidden disclosure, and the proscription is reciprocal. So, whoever launches an aggression against you (pl.), then you return the aggression similarly on him who launches the aggression against you. And be aware of God, and take note too that God is with the enlightened.
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Waanfiqoo fee sabeeli Allahi wala tulqoo bi-aydeekum ila alttahlukati waahsinoo inna Allaha yuhibbu almuhsineena
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You (pl.) be exhaustive in the path of God, and dont throw yourselves into danger. And be appropriate. Verily God loves the appropriate.
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Waatimmoo alhajja waalAAumrata lillahi fa-in ohsirtum fama istaysara mina alhadyi wala tahliqoo ruoosakum hatta yablugha alhadyu mahillahu faman kana minkum mareedan aw bihi athan min ra/sihi fafidyatun min siyamin aw sadaqatin aw nusukin fa-itha amintum faman tamattaAAa bialAAumrati ila alhajji fama istaysara mina alhadyi faman lam yajid fasiyamu thalathati ayyamin fee alhajji wasabAAatin itha rajaAAtum tilka AAasharatun kamilatun thalika liman lam yakun ahluhu hadiree almasjidi alharami waittaqoo Allaha waiAAlamoo anna Allaha shadeedu alAAiqabi
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And you (pl.) perform the persuasion and the rectifications for God. Thus if you were not able to express your mind, then whatever is easier of the guidance. And you cannot divulge what is in your (pl.) mind until the guidance reaches its maturity. Therefore, whoever among you who was uncomfortable, or troubled by its principle, then a sacrifice in self-restraint, or a charity, or a solitude. So when you (pl.) have gained confidence, then whatever is preferred in the rectifications to the persuasion thus whatever is easier of the guidance. So whoever could not accomplish, then restrain yourself for three days pertaining to the persuasion, and seven days when you (pl.) have withdrawn. It is a sterling ten. That is for anyone incompetent in lecturing on the forbidden reverence. And you be aware of God, and take note too that God is firm in punishment.
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Alhajju ashhurun maAAloomatun faman farada feehinna alhajja fala rafatha wala fusooqa wala jidala fee alhajji wama tafAAaloo min khayrin yaAAlamhu Allahu watazawwadoo fa-inna khayra alzzadi alttaqwa waittaqooni ya olee al-albabi
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Persuasion is the propagation of information. Thus, whoever has decided in the persuasion, then there shall be no obscenity, no alteration, nor disputes in the persuasion. And what you (pl.) perform in excellence, God knows about it. And you are endowed, but verily the best of endowment is enlightenment. And be aware of Me, o men of eminence.
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Laysa AAalaykum junahun an tabtaghoo fadlan min rabbikum fa-itha afadtum min AAarafatin faothkuroo Allaha AAinda almashAAari alharami waothkuroohu kama hadakum wa-in kuntum min qablihi lamina alddalleena
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It is not an offence on you (pl.) to attain an excess from your Lord. However, if you were overflowing in experience, remember God with restrained sense, and remember Him while He guides you (pl.), even though before this you were among the misguided.
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Thumma afeedoo min haythu afada alnnasu waistaghfiroo Allaha inna Allaha ghafoorun raheemun
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Then, you (pl.) describe in detail inasmuch as He has described in detail for the people, and ask for Gods forgiveness. Verily God is mercifully forgiving.
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Fa-itha qadaytum manasikakum faothkuroo Allaha kathikrikum abaakum aw ashadda thikran famina alnnasi man yaqoolu rabbana atina fee alddunya wama lahu fee al-akhirati min khalaqin
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When you (pl.) have determined your solitude, remember God like you remember your fathers, or a better remembrance. But some people say, Our Lord, accomplish us in this world, and in the end, none to him any share of accomplishment!
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Waminhum man yaqoolu rabbana atina fee alddunya hasanatan wafee al-akhirati hasanatan waqina AAathaba alnnari
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While some of them say, Our Lord, accomplish us excellently in this world and in the Hereafter, and shelter us from the punishment of fire.
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Ola-ika lahum naseebun mimma kasaboo waAllahu sareeAAu alhisabi
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To these people are fortunes for what they have concluded in opinion. By God it is easy enumeration.
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Waothkuroo Allaha fee ayyamin maAAdoodatin faman taAAajjala fee yawmayni fala ithma AAalayhi waman taakhkhara fala ithma AAalayhi limani ittaqa waittaqoo Allaha waiAAlamoo annakum ilayhi tuhsharoona
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And remember God in the few distinguishable days. But then, whoever rushes in two days, there is no offense on him, and whoever delays, there is also no offense on him. It is to whomever is enlightened. And be aware of God, and remember too that verily you (pl.) are pulling away from Him!
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salaam all,
please note that this is the most current comprehension, a rectification of the above verses. insha-Allah, God will guide is all on the honourable path.
peace
jb
Siyam (2. Al-baqara)
A Personal Comprehension (The Summary)- O you (pl.) who have faith, prescribed to you is self-restraint, similar to what was prescribed to those before you, so that you protect yourselves.
- It is a few distinguishable days. Thus whoever among you is dis-eased, or on travel, several other days, and for those capable for it, a redress in a meal for the poor. Thus whoever renders himself best in compliance, it is for his own good. And to exercise self-restrain is better for you, if you know.
- It is a compelling disclosure when revealed therein the subjects for pondering as guidance for man, and clarifications on the guidance, and also the separations. Thus, whoever among you (pl.) who personally experience the disclosure, he should perform his self-restraint, while whoever is dis-eased, or on travel, several other days. God intends pleasant circumstances for you, and He does not intend the difficulty for you, and so that you complete the count, and praise God for the fact that He guides you, and so that you are thankful.
- And when My servants ask you (s) about Me, verily I am close. I shall answer pleas of support when one pleads to Me, so let them answer My call, and have faith in Me, so that they follow the right way.
- It is allowed for you (pl.) at the night of self-restraint, the obscenity towards your women. They are barriers for you, and you are barriers for them. God knows that you were outwitting yourselves, thus He pardoned you, and restored His grace on you. So you announce the news to them, and aspire for what God has drafted for you. And You (pl.) relish with gratifications until it becomes clear to you the white from the black thread of the commencement, then, you perform the self-restraint until the night. And dont have sex with them (F), while you take a retreat in reverence. That is Gods limits, thus dont you come near it. Like that God clarifies His Ayat to man, so that they protect themselves.
- And do not relish in each others possessions by deceptions, when for them you (pl.) offer presents to the elders, so that you may relish in some of other peoples possessions unlawfully, while you understand.
- They ask you (s) about the commencement, say, It is scheduled for the sake of man, and the persuasion. And it is not the righteousness to perform meditations according to its manifestation, but then righteousness is whenever one is aware, and accomplish meditations properly, and be aware of God, so that you are successful.
- And you (pl.) strive in the path of God against those who strive against you, but do not transgress the limits. Verily, God does not like transgressors.
- And you (pl.) be moderate with them since you are to teach them, and cultivate their minds regarding what they have dismissed you. And the temptation is greater on the assassination. But dont strive against them on the forbidden reverence, unless they strive against you about it. Thus, if they strive against you, you be moderate with them. Like that is the off-setting of disbelievers.
- Thus if they cease, God is mercifully forgiving.
- And you (pl.) strive against them as far as there is no temptation, and it is the obligation to God, thus, if they cease, then there is no opposition, except against the prejudiced.
- The forbidden propagation is against forbidden propagation, and the proscription is reciprocal. Thus, whoever launches an aggression against you (pl.), then you return the aggression similarly on him who launches the aggression against you. And be aware of God, and take note too that God is together with the enlightened.
- And you (pl.) be exhaustive in the path of God, and dont throw yourselves into danger, and be appropriate, verily God loves the appropriate.
- And you (pl.) perform the persuasion and the rectifications for God. Thus if you were not able to express your mind, then whatever is easier of the guidance, as you cannot divulge what are on your (pl.) minds unless the guidance reaches its maturity. Thus, whoever among you who was uncomfortable, or troubled by its principle, then a redress in self-restraint, or a charity, or a solitude. Thus when you (pl.) have gained confidence, whatever is preferred in the rectifications to the persuasion, thus whatever is easier of the guidance. Thus whoever could not accomplish, exercise a self-restrain for three days pertaining to the persuasion, and seven days when you (pl.) have withdrawn, it is a sterling ten, that is for anyone incompetent in lecturing on the forbidden reverence. And you be aware of God, and take note too that God is firm in punishment.
- Persuasion is the propagation of information. Thus, whoever has decided in the persuasion, then there shall be no obscenity, no alteration, nor disputes in the persuasion, and what you (pl.) perform in excellence, God knows about it, and you are endowed, because the best of endowment is the enlightenment. And be aware of Me, o men of eminence.
- It is not an offence on you (pl.) to attain an excess from your Lord. So when you are overflowing in experience, remember God with restrained sense, and remember Him while He guides you (pl.), even though before this you were among the misguided.
- Then, you (pl.) describe in detail inasmuch as He has described in detail for the people, and ask for Gods forgiveness. Verily God is mercifully forgiving.
- So when you (pl.) have determined your solitude, remember God like you remember your fathers, or a better remembrance. Thus some people say, Our Lord, accomplish us in this world, and in the Hereafter, none to him any share!
- And some of them say, Our Lord, accomplish us appropriately in this world and in the Hereafter, and shelter us from the punishment of fire.
- These people, for them are fortunes for what they concluded in opinion. And God is swift in enumeration.
- And you (pl.) remember God in the few distinguishable days. So, whoever rushed in two days, there is no offense on him, and whoever delayed, there is also no offense on him. It is to whomever is enlightened. And you (pl.) be aware of God, and take note too, verily you are pulling away from Him!
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Peace all;
It is one month according to your Lord; let me tell you why?(٥
Ramadan month is the in which was sent down the Qur'an as a guide to mankind also clear (Signs) for guidance and judgment. So everyone of you witness that month should fast it, but if anyone is ill, or on a journey, the prescribed period (should be made up) by days later. Allah intends every facility for you He does not want to put you to difficulties. (He wants you) to complete the prescribed period, and to glorify Him in that He has guided you; and perchance ye shall be grateful. (2-185)Thus, the fasting is for a month of Ramadan.
Now how long is one month?
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The number of months in the sight of Allah is twelve so ordained by Him in the day He created the heavens and the earth; of them four are sacred; that is the straight usage. So wrong not yourselves therein and fight the pagans all together as they fight you all together. But know that Allah is with those who restrain themselves. (9-36)
Thus, one year is 12 months. And as we know, one year is the time when 4 seasons are completed (Spring, Summer, Fall, and Winter), 365 days. Thus, one month is about 30 days. And if one month is ten days, then the year would be 12 month X 10 = 120 days (two seasons only).
Moreover, the following would show the length of one month
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We have enjoined on man Kindness to his parents in pain did his mother bear him, and in pain did she give him birth. The carrying of the (child) to his weaning is thirty months. At length, when he reaches the age of full strength and attains forty years, he says "O my Lord! Grant me that I may be grateful for Thy favor, which Thou hast bestowed upon me, and upon both my parents, and that I may work righteousness such as Thou mayest approve; and be gracious to me in my issue. Truly have I turned to Thee and truly do I bow (to Thee) in Islam." (46-15)
Is that how long does it take and not 30 month X 10 days= 300 days
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Such of your women as have passed the age of monthly courses, for them the prescribed period, if ye have any doubts, is three months, and for those who have no courses (it is the same) for those who carry (life within their wombs) their period is until they deliver their burdens and for those who fear Allah, He will make their path easy. (65-4)
As we all know, the woman gets her period every month (average every thirty days)
Thus, we have to Fast for one Month that equals 30 days average.
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They ask thee concerning the New Moons. Say they are but signs to mark fixed periods of time for men, and for pilgrimage. It is no virtue if ye enter your houses from the back; it is virtue if ye fear Allah. Enter houses through the proper doors and fear Allah that ye may prosper. (2-189)
Thus? the mark of Ramadan month is the beginning of new moon.
Peace
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One may fast 3, 10, or 30 days... It is acceptable...
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9596892.msg176228#msg176228
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Peace Jim,
Shalom
if ramadan ten days , Please give to us from which day we start and in which day we finish our fasting ?
Abdias( Abdallah)
ShalomPlease see the following article
http//www.free-minds.org/articles/science/timing.htm
Also, from your greeting you seem to know Hebrew. So you should know what "hagg" means and that the "hagg" timing was tied to the full-moon. All of this is related to the timing of the fast.
Peace,
Ayman
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When looking for an old webpage from any site try www.archive.org
In this case
https//web.archive.org/web/20060311080826/http//www.free-minds.org/articles/science/timing.htm
