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Anyone plan on making Hajj soon?

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    anthonywallace
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    Peace all, im bout to be moving at any time now so if you dont hear from me anytime soon, then i moved or somethingelse...

    There example in the Torah is that of kneeling and prostrating ( physically). And the example of the Gospel is that of standing up stronge, and firm. Like a plant which shoots out and becomes strong and thick and it stands straight on its trunk, pleaseing to the farmers. That He may enrage the rejecters with them. God promises those among them who believe and do good works a forgiveness and a great reward. peace

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      Ahmad_Bilal
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      Peace,

      I was looking into these things too... From the US, both Mecca and Jerusalem are northeast... And, according to the Torah, the sanctuary in Jerusalem was settled in by Abraham, and the temple was built by Solomon. In the Qur'an, Abraham also insisted that the dwelling ("House&quot be called a "secure city", and coincidentally, the Hebrew title for this city is "Yerushalayim" (city or town of peace and security/shalaym or shalom). The city of Mecca is not described at all in Jewish history, and according to the other Abrahamic religions, Mecca has no historical significance at all... The Qur'an says that the "first" house was in Bakka. So, the question is really Are "Bakka" and "Makka" the same place, or are the different?

      Peace,

      Ahmad

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        Peace,

        I was looking into these things too... From the US, both Mecca and Jerusalem are northeast... And, according to the Torah, the sanctuary in Jerusalem was settled in by Abraham, and the temple was built by Solomon. In the Qur'an, Abraham also insisted that the dwelling ("House&quot be called a "secure city", and coincidentally, the Hebrew title for this city is "Yerushalayim" (city or town of peace and security/shalaym or shalom). The city of Mecca is not described at all in Jewish history, and according to the other Abrahamic religions, Mecca has no historical significance at all... The Qur'an says that the "first" house was in Bakka. So, the question is really Are "Bakka" and "Makka" the same place, or are the different?

        Peace,

        Ahmad

        I am not quilafied to answer that question... But what I do know is that Bakka and mecca are mentioned in Quran, and Juruslim is not. And there is a mentioned of turning from one qiblah to another. And I would like to see were in Torah it says the sanctuary was settled in juruslim by Abraham. So mecca may not have significance in the history of the rejecters ( Jews ), but it has significance in the Quran and history of Islam. peace

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          shirajabd
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          peace You will be disappointed. It is not what you picture in your thoughts. >

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            anthonywallace
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            peace You will be disappointed. It is not what you picture in your thoughts. >

            ???

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              Alen
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              Peace,
              Respectfully.

              I think and believe that we need to start a discussion with sunnis regarding this black cube or a fertility goddess or whatever it is and ask them, how does spinning around a black cube make things better?

              Peace.

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                anthonywallace
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                Peace,
                Respectfully.

                I think and believe that we need to start a discussion with sunnis regarding this black cube or a fertility goddess or whatever it is and ask them, how does spinning around a black cube make things better?

                Peace.

                peace

                Go and ask them, then see what they respond with. Then come back and tell us...

                peace

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                  MUNZIR_ALI
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                  I think I would not go to orbit 7 times around a black cube and go to kiss the pieces of the black stone laugh

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                    MUNZIR_ALI
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                    2196 And complete the Pilgrimage and the visit for God. But, if you are prevented, then make what is affordable of donation, and do not shave your heads until the donation reaches its destination; but whoever of you is ill or has an affliction to his head, then he may redeem by fasting or giving a charity or a rite. But if you are able, then whoever continues the visit until the Pilgrimage, then he shall provide what is affordable of donation; but for he who cannot find anything, then he must fast for three days during the Pilgrimage and seven when he returns; this will make a complete ten; this is for those whose family is not present at the Sacred Temple. And be aware of God, and know that God is severe in retribution.

                    Why do I make life difficult for me? Why do most ignore this verse? And fail to commit to it? Is this a manmade rite, or a rite established by the Almighty?

                    The verse does not tell us to orbit a cube seven times

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                      Yaqub
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                      The proper word is circumvent. Is there an article around here that describes how the hajj was performed historically (before the time of the prophet)?

                      What about umrah?

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