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  • Which koran article
    A alifaiz

    The truth of the matter however is that there are significant differences which cannot simply
    be waived away or ignored?

    For example
    2125 in Hafs is ?WatakhIzu? (You shall take) / In Warsh it is
    ?WatakhAzu? (They have taken/made).

    In 2125 the subject being addressed is that of ?Maqam Ibrahim?. One version gives a
    command/order, while the other states a historical fact/observation.
    3146 in Hafs is tGs% ?Qatal? (Fought) / In Warsh it is ?Qutil? (Were Killed).
    In 3146 the difference is between a prophet and those with him being killed, while in the
    other the difference only means that they fought by his side.
    Verse counts for Hafs are 6236, while Warsh records 6214.

    Muslims claim to know the time, place, and occasion that each verse was revealed in?Yet
    between Hafs and Warsh they seems not to know even how many verses were originally
    revealed!
    The question that presents itself is ?Which did Gabriel reveal??

    The above is directly from the article. It goes into more detail about the differences. i suggest u read it more thoroughly.

    Quranic Divinity

  • Things not explained in the quran
    A alifaiz

    It seems pagan to me as well. So we should make the pilgrimage as the quran says. and we should worship and think of Allah(swt) and pay our respects to the holy sites. Would this be the hajj actually mentioned in the quran? without pagan influences in the hadiths i mean. how would u do it?

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  • Things not explained in the quran
    A alifaiz

    Thank you wakas. I have read the quran. But ur right i do need to sit down and study it more. Thanx for the link. Peace

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  • Things not explained in the quran
    A alifaiz

    K thanx.. sorry new to the site.

    Peace

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  • Common misconceptions about Islam - help needed
    A alifaiz

    Salaam all,

    I breezed through the replies and saw a few more faq's needed.

    Why did a religious leader spread his religion by sword

    Why was Islam spread by sword

    Why can men have sex with their slaves(what their right hand possess).

    Muhammad(pbuh) influenced by satan leading to satanic verses in koran(after verses 19 and 20 ("Have you thought of Allt and al-'Uzz and Mant the third, the other?&quot

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  • Muhammad(pbuh)
    A alifaiz

    valid point. thanx and salaam

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  • Muhammad(pbuh)
    A alifaiz

    How did islam spread that fast then. I mean i agree that the concept of one all powerful god sending prophets is simple and very convincing but i dont see how people can abandon the religions of their fathers so easily. it is a hard thing to break especially for entire populations. i can see maybe conquest of these lands but not the forced conversion of the populace. That must have come slowly and they saw the beauty in islam. But still conquests are barbaric and un-islamic.
    Can u show that all Muhammad(pbuh) fought defensively only? Also the the night raids he made against meccan caravans casualties had to include women and children. This was economic warfare.
    So was bin ladens attack on world trade center which included women and children casualties.

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  • Muhammad(pbuh)
    A alifaiz

    Firstly i would like to thank everyone that has shown me how unreliable and conflicting the hadiths regarding aisha's age are. But i have yet to find convincing evidence that muhammad(pbuh) and the first caliphs fought only defensive wars. Below are some instances of the caliphs who were guaranteed paradise by muhammad(pbuh) being quite brutal.

    "The Rightly Guided Caliphs" by Dr. Abu Zayd Shalabi

    Dr. Abu Zayd Shalabi discusses the Islamic wars which were initiated by the four caliphs who succeeded Muhammad and who, at the same time, are his favored relatives. These caliphs are Abu Bakr, ?Umar, ?Uthman and ?Ali. Muhammad married ?Aisha, daughter of Abu Bakr, and Hafesa, daughter of ?Umar. ?Uthman married Ruqayya, the daughter of Muhammad, then after her death, he married her sister Um Kalthum. ?Ali was married to Muhammad?s youngest daughter, Fatima al-Zahra.

    On pages 35-38, Dr. Abu Zayd remarks,

    "Muhammad had prepared an army to invade the borders of Syria. When Muhammad died Abu Bakr sent an army headed by Usama Ibn Zayd and ?Umar Ibn al-Khattab. The army marched towards southern Palestine and invaded some parts of the land, frightened the people and captured some booty."

    At the beginning of page 70, Dr. Abu Zayd talks about the Islamic conquests and indicates that at the inception of the year 12 of Hajira, Abu Bakr ordered Khalid Ibn al-Walid to invade Persian lands and to seize the ports near Iraq. Khalid marched with the army, but before he started the war, he sent his famous message to Hermez, one of the Iraqi generals, "Embrace Islam, or pay the poll-tax, or fight." The Hermez declined to accept any of these terms but war. The Persians were defeated in this battle and Khalid seized the booty and sent Abu Bakr one-fifth of the spoils of war, exactly as they were accustomed to send to Muhammad. One-fifth of the booty belonged to God and to Muhammad.

    Abu Bakr presented Khalid with the Hermez?s tiara which was inlaid with gems. Dr. Abu Zayd says the value of the gems amounted to 100,000 dirham (p. 73). After that, the successful, savage invasions continued against other countries which could not repel the forces of Islam. This Azhar scholar tells us that in the battle of Alees which took place on the border of Iraq, Khalid killed 70,000 people! He was so brutal in his attack that the nearby river was mixed with their blood (p. 75).

    On p. 77, Dr. Abu Zayd mentions another country which surrendered to Khalid. Khalid demanded that they pay 190,000 dirhams. When he attacked Ayn al-Tamr in Iraq, its people took shelter in one of the fortresses. Khalid laid siege to the fortress and forced them to come out. He killed all of them mercilessly. They had done nothing against him or against the Muslims except that they refused to embrace Islam and to recognize Muhammad as an apostle of God. The Muslims seized all that they found in the fortress along with forty young men who were studying the Gospel. Khalid captured them and divided them among the Muslims (refer to p. 81).

    It is well-known that Khalid Ibn al-Walid was a very brutal, vicious man. His relentlessness made ?Umar Ibn al-Khattab ask Abu Bakr to kill him or at least to depose him because he killed another Muslim in order to marry his wife! Abu Bakr did not listen, but when ?Umar became the second caliph, he deposed him immediately This was ?Umar?s opinion about Khalid. Yet, to Muhammad, the prophet of Muslims, Khalid was one of the best among his relatives and warriors.

    On page 134, Abu Zayd relates that when Khalid besieged another town called Qinnasrin which belonged to the Byzantine Empire, its people were so afraid that they hid themselves from him. He sent them a message in which he said "Even if you hide in the cloud, God will lift us up to you or He will lower you down to us." They asked for a peace treaty, but he refused and killed them all. Then he eradicated the town. These are the words of Dr. Abu Zayd which we faithfully relay to you.

    Dr. Abu Zayd continues to list the names of the towns and the regions which the Islamic army invaded after the fall of ?Ain al-Tamr. He says

    "By the end of the year 12, Hajira Abu Bakr became interested in Syria (Al Sham). He issued orders to four of his great generals and designated for each one of them a country which he was given to invade. He assigned Damascus to Yazid, Jordan to Sharhabil, Homs to Abu ?Ubayda and Palestine to ?Umru Ibn al-?As.

    We wonder Are these wars defensive wars or are they definitely offensive wars and unjustified military invasions? Abu Bakr?s era ends during the famous battle of Yarmick in which tens of thousands were slain for no reason except to impose religion by force, capturing women and plundering the properties. Muslims claim that Abu Bakr died from eating poisoned food a few months before.

    When ?Umar was elected to the Caliphate, he deposed Khalid Ibn al-Walid and replaced him immediately with Abu ?Ubayda.

    The Caliphate (ruling period) of ?Umar Ibn al-Khattab

    The Invasion of Persia

    ?Umar Ibn al-Khattab sent Sa?d Ibn Abi Waqqas to invade Persia. He camped in al-Qaddisia near the river Euphrates. Dr. Abu Zayd narrates for us a very important incident (pages 117-11 which we would like to examine. The author says

    "Sa?d sent some of his followers (among them the Mu?man Ibn Maqrin to Yazdagird, one of the Persian generals) who asked him, ?What enticed you and brought you to invade us?? (Ibn Maqrin) said to him, ?Choose for yourself either Islam or the poll-tax or the sword.? The Persian general became very angry and said to him, ?Had it not been (the custom that messengers should not be killed), I would have killed you. Go; you have nothing to do with me."?

    Ibn Khaldun confirms this incident in the end of the second volume of his famous history book (pages 94-96). He says,

    "Rustan, the Persian general, said to one of Sa?d?s messengers, ?You were poor and we used to provide you with plenty of food. Why do you invade us now?"?

    It was obvious that the Persians had never thought to invade the Arabs, but they used to send them plenty of food because of the poverty of the Arab peninsula. Never-the-less, the Arabs seized the opportunity to invade Persia after they realized that the Persians had been weakened by its wars with the Byzantine Empire and their own internal problems. Thus, they repaid compassion with wickedness and goodness with evil. The question which the Persian general Sa?d asked was a logical one, "Why do you attack us? Did we mistreat you?" The answer was also very clear, "You have three options!" Dr. Abu Zayd says on in p. 123

    "Sa?d seized (after the battle of Qadisiyya) all that was in the treasury of Khusro of money and treasure. It was so plentiful that each Arab horseman received 12,000 dirham."

    The Invasion of Damascus

    On pages 131 and 132 of the same book, "The Rightly Guided Caliphs," the author indicates,

    "Abu ?Ubayda marched towards Damascus and besieged it for seventy nights. He cut off all supplies while its inhabitants were pleading for help and assistance. Then Khalid attacked the city and massacred thousands of people. (They were forced) to ask for a peace treaty. Abu ?Ubayda turned over the rule of Damascus to Yazid and ordered him to invade the neighboring (cities). He attacked Sidon, Beirut, and others."

    The Attack on Jerusalem

    On pages 136 and 137, we read about the attack of ?Umru Ibn al-?as on Jerusalem. He besieged it for four months. Then its Christian inhabitants agreed to pay the poll-tax and to surrender to ?Umar Ibn al-Khattab, the caliph. ?Umar made the trip to Jerusalem and laid the foundation of the mosque. With that, the conquest of Syria was accomplished, but as the pestilence (plague) raged, many of the high-ranking generals of the Islamic army died, among them Abu Ubayda, Yazid and Sharahbil.

    The Invasion of Wealthy Egypt

    On pages 141 and 142, the author narrates how the invasion and occupation of Egypt were accomplished. Among the justifications which ?Umru Ibn al-?As presented to ?Umar which convinced him to allow ?Umru to attack Egypt were the following

    "Egypt?s abundance and yields are plentiful. The conquest of Egypt would gain for the Muslims a foothold in Syria and make it easier for them to invade Africa to spread Islam."

    It is important to mark ?Umru?s statement that "Egypt?s abundance and yields are plentiful." Eventually Egypt and Africa were both conquered.

    On pages 145 and 146, the professor of civilization at the Azhar relates how ?Umru besieged the Fortress of Babylon (south of ancient Egypt) for a full month, and that he said to the messengers of the Muqawqis, the governor of Egypt,

    "There is nothing between us and you except three things

    (1) Embrace Islam, become our brethren and you will have what we have and you will be subjected to what we are subjected (in this case they would pay alms to the treasury of the state).

    (2) If you refuse that, you are obligated to pay tribute with humiliation.

    (3) War.

    "The Muqawqis attempted to offer them something different, but they rejected it. At last, after a fight, he accepted the second condition, namely to pay tribute and to be subjugated to Islamic rule. The Muslims entered Egypt. "

    On page 147 and 148 Abu Zayd describes the conquest of Alexandria and denies that the Muslims burned the famous library of Alexandria. Yet he admits that many chroniclers have mentioned that ?Umar Ibn al-Khattab ordered ?Umru to burn it entirely.

    After the conquest and the occupation of Egypt, the author says (page 151) that ?Umru wanted to secure this conquest from the west by conquering Tripoli of Libya, and from the south by seizing Ethiopia. Thus at the close of the year 21 H. as Ibn Khaldun and Yaqut al-Kindi remarked (that is in the first half of the year 643 A.D. as Ibn al Athir and other chroniclers said), "?Umru marched on with his horsemen towards Tripoli."

    On page 153 he adds

    "?Umru besieged Tripoli for a month. It was a well-fortified city. At last a group of Muslims infiltrated the city and fought some of the Byzantines who soon fled. ?Umar entered the city and captured all that was in it, then he assailed the city of Sabra without warning and conquered it by force. He seized all that could be seized from it. Then he sent his army to Ethiopia, but he failed to enter it and suffered great losses. The skirmishes continued until a peace treaty was signed during the time of ?Uthman Ibn ?Affan."

    Are these wars considered defensive? What is an offensive war then?

    Are the hadiths that grossly DISTORTED!!?? These recollections had to have come from somewhere! History shows companions of the prophet whom were promised paradise conquering nations aggressively. How can one argue this? Ne evidence?

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  • Which koran article
    A alifaiz

    Asalaamu Alaikum. This is an interesting and somewhat disturbing article i have read on freeminds.org http//free-minds.org/articles/science/WhichQuran.pdf

    Has the koran been changed? I agree to distance ourselves from hadith for many reasons but if their is evidence of alteration in the koran y shouldnt we distance ourselves from it as well?

    InshAllah u guys will help me answer this question because at the moment it is detrimental to my faith in the Koran.

    Quranic Divinity

  • Things not explained in the quran
    A alifaiz

    When conversing with my muslim friends and relatives about my belief in the quran alone as the authority a few questions always seem to pop up. An interesting statement my muslim relative, may Allah be pleased with him, makes is that Allah tells us in quran to pray and perform hajj but the hadiths tells us exactly how to perform these rituals and cleanse ourselves before.

    So heres questions to those that reject the hadiths and follow the quran alone.

    How do you pray? the quran says to pray but doesnt really go into the ritual. Is surah fatiha necessary in your ritual

    also

    How do you perform hajj? Allah(swt) tells us in Quran that we should make the pilgrimage. What rituals should be done according to quran only.

    Salaam

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  • Muhammad(pbuh)
    A alifaiz

    Ive read the koran a few times and i am convinced it is from god. I strongly agree with the practice of following islam through the koran only. However i question my faith sometimes only because of early islamic history recorded in hadiths.

    Such as muhammad's(pbuh) marriage to aisha at 6 and consummation of their marriage when she was only 9 and he was in his 50's.

    The conquests of surrounding nations by caliphs and companions of the prophets who clearly showed first aggression which is supposedly suppose to be forbidden in islamic teachings. the conquests of these nations is in history. Is this really what muhammad(pbuh) taught? Did he also conquer the arabian peninsula against koranic teachings or were each of his battles in self-defence?

    Help strenghten my faith by providing evidence if u can. Jazakallah Khair

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