My Mom told me the other day, that I make her happy. So I chose life. Its worth it.

peace to all. ;D
thanks for all the support. handshake

I am so sad of knowing that so many Muslims are so lost in tradition and that many don't spend very much time reading ALLAH's Word, His Message... the Qur'an!

well actually, we do read the Quran (alot)....we just dont get it...as in the meaning...
i remember getting an offline msg a long time ago from one of the 'religious' friends that i hv...she sent a hadith which justifies that it is 'ok' to read the Quran w/o understanding the meaning...we'll be rewarded just fine... confused

one of the rituals that really send me the creeps now is where a bunch of people sit in a circle reciting Yaseen and having bottles of water in the middle of the circle.and without knowing the meaning of the Yaseen..we'd read it all night long...

looking from a different perspective now, anyone could have seen us as chanting nonsense while hoping that the water would then be 'upgraded' and consumed during eg. exams

love and peace,

aqidah

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Peace All,

I was riding to work with a colleague ( a sunni - muslim) this morning and she played a CD of a preaching by this Ustaz....(she's been playing various kind of religious CDs since the so-called Ramadhan (i still dont know what to make of the debates on this) started.

Anyway, I have never really paid much attention to the rumblings of these ustaz before, my content mind seemed to wander away thinking what beautiful sun, sky, trees God made, why is this mosquito happily sucking blooding on my hand and that Id better slap it coz the dengue fever's on the rise..etc everytime the CD's playing.

But this morning, it caught my attention.

I have heard of it before,a long time ago. And like a good muslim girl, accepted it. Muhammad the Prophet came down from his ride to the 7th sky and said he's seen Hell, and there's more women in it...2/3 of it..

Could this be true?

So I went for a search using a good 2-hour of office time. I found that there's is another thread already discussing these

http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=8421.15

but I still have questions and would like to try my approach on this.
And may I quote from Wakas on the said thread-

"I have read Hell is one hot place, so I wouldn't be surprised if there were more women in it than men.

I deduce this from the fact that I find women more hot than men.

Maybe I've misunderstood the question."

Lol dude.

Anyway, I thought, ok, if 2/3 of the world population is made of women, there might be a chance that Hell would have the same ratio as well, given that the men and women has the same amount of responsibilities to God, same reward, same punishment from Him etc...

From the CIA factbook-

Sex ratio
Field info displayed for all countries in alpha order.
at birth 1.07 male(s)/female
under 15 years 1.06 male(s)/female
15-64 years 1.02 male(s)/female
65 years and over 0.78 male(s)/female
total population 1.01 male(s)/female (2009 est.)

https//www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/xx.html#People

Nope. Men and women are about 11. (Unless the CIA went this far to manipulate people by changing facts..)
Oh wait. what about these hadiths that promotes polygamy because there's more women than men 41 ratio thingamajid? ....Nevermind.

So I went from there to a more 'Islamic' approach.

As I would have guessed, scrolls and scrolls of Hadiths were presented, each one sometimes more ridiculous than the other.

My favourite-

It was narrated that Abu Sa?eed al-Khudri said "The Messenger of Allah () went out to the Musalla on the day of Eid al-Adha or Eid al-Fitr. He passed by the women and said, ?O women! Give charity, for I have seen that you form the majority of the people of Hell.? They asked, ?Why is that, O Messenger of Allah?? He replied, ?You curse frequently and are ungrateful to your husbands. I have not seen anyone more deficient in intelligence and religious commitment than you. A cautious sensible man could be led astray by some of you.? The women asked, ?O Messenger of Allah, what is deficient in our intelligence and religious commitment?? He said, ?Is not the testimony of two women equal to the testimony of one man?? They said, ?Yes.? He said, ?This is the deficiency in her intelligence. Is it not true that a woman can neither pray nor fast during her menses?? The women said, ?Yes.? He said, ?This is the deficiency in her religious commitment.?? (Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 304)

AAAARRrrrrrggHHHHH. What a load of bull's bum. Cant....(squirming) stand ..this.....

I believe there's no direct answer as to the ratio of men and women in hell per se (anyone who did find it in the Quran are more than welcome to have a say), but it lies within the fact that men and women are created equal. period.

http//www.submission.info/perspectives/women/equality.html

peace to all. D

I was born into a regular sunni family in Malaysia..(holler to all Malaysians btw, if there's any)..and as a muslim in this country, I was taught to accept whatever that has been moulded in Islam and questioning them is a big taboo. &

Even as a child, I could see that women?s place in the society is well...degrading... I actually wished that I was born a boy instead....how can I not?

When it comes to comparing men and women, these are what I used to know.

1. Men were made better.
2. Men can have 4 wives.
3. Men can beat their wives.

And there?s also this mindset where if you?re not wearing a veil, you?re basically a bad person. voodoo Just like that.

I found myself drifting along with the rest of typical sunnis, following whatever that has been taught to me. Being out of the country however changed that. I'm currently studying in a university in London and being in a country where the people takes you for who you are, it?s so much easier to be yourself. O0

Topics that used to be taboo are now freely discussed. I came to an understanding that religion is only a card that politicians use to manipulate the people in my country. And later I came to find that the histories (especially those that tell about what happened prior to independence) that I learnt in textbooks are distorted! I was sad for not knowing earlier, angry at those who did this and thanking God for letting me know.

And then, God?s willing, something inside me started asking. What about my faith? For years I've been accepting and never paid much attention to it. So I started looking for confirmations about simple stuff that used to irritate me but had managed to wave them away. It wasn?t long before I found this website. It was January 2008. I spent the whole night reading articles after articles (at 1st on woman rights) and I remember being scared. Scared that this is another man-made doctrine concocted to stray Muslims. Scared that these men and women are nuts or how they could be lost.(SORRY... angel

But above of all, I was scared that I could be wrong this entire 21 years of my life. I remember my first question- what does the Quran say about prayer?-which proved that I had very little knowledge about the Quran. I laughed out loud rotfl when I found out that the supposedly very important event such as Miraj was never mentioned in the Quran.

Questions after questions were answered... they made perfect sense!

I didn?t make a decision right away though, due to the lack of confidence in myself and the meagre amount of knowledge I have on the Quran, I got busy...yada2..but even then I knew, I'm going to take a turn in my life. A big one. yay

The 1st time when I really prayed to God alone was the start of summer. My humble tears rolled down my eyes and I've never felt closer to God.

It felt like I was reborn, but this time, I'm actually glad I was born a girl. sun

Im still in the shadow though. I know that my family loves me unconditionally so I plucked up the courage to tell my brother and my mom....it wasnt easy.
they had the shock of their life but my mom was the best. In the end she said to really dig deep before I decide on anything but what she didn't know is that I'm already in.. But thats good enough for now. As for my friends...we'll see when the summer ends. InshaAllah

and to londoners...it would be great to meet up sometime. group

love and peace,

aqidah O0