See my previous post.

See my previous post.

B.ob,

I assume you are addressing me with your post.

Firstly, why are you asking me what Dr Zaman meant by XYZ? Go ask him. He has a website and blog for asking questions.

Secondly, I recommend re-reading what I wrote.

And lastly, with regards your other questions about the verses, I recommend reading past discussion on the forum, and utilising the tools at www.StudyQuran.org for example.

Once you have done that AND still have some questions about the verses, then feel free to ask them on the forum AND also write your findings/research thus far on each of the questions you ask. That will be helpful.

So you dont even understand what he is saying to begin with, but you have written an ,,what do you call it, analysis ?

How do we know you understood anything else? you don't even understand a simple line, but you have given a socalled throughout analysis of,,WHAT,,something you didn't understand?

Also ref to Dr Qamars statement that plural is NOT used after al ghaiti!

No I'm asking you , plz answer the questions, you are criticising Haqiqate Salaat WITHOUT understanding what the author is saying by a simple line to begin with, then you have to explain sand face one of you , toilet, the women etc. Come on don't be shy, all you have to do is to rub your face with sand and answer the questions. If your the one of them who went to toilet ofcrz - Explain it to us, otherwise this sandy thing will remain dusty. I'm also interested to know if you and all your friends who think like you, clean your face with sand, elevated land or high sand or whatever you guys call it.

Summary review of 19 pages resulted in -

30 errors/problems identified

• (5 of which critical errors)
  3 logical fallacies noted
  16 instances requiring evidence/referencing

Total = 49 issues to be resolved/clarified

Please explain what Dr Qamar Mean by "?Kindly note that routine talk is not allowed during Namaaz.?" at page 69

you said- -" but conveniently neglects to mention that immediately after the singular ?al ghaiti? reference it
becomes plural, e.g. ?or you (plural) have touched the women? or ?and you (plural) could not find
water?."

Did dr Qamar say plural is NOT used AFTER al ghaiti? where did he say that?

Please explain what this verse means when it say" or one of you cometh from offices of nature, or ye have been in contact with women, and ye find no water, then take for yourselves clean sand or earth"

Do you rub your face with sand when you along with others have touched THE WOMEN AL NISA, or if ONE of you cometh from offices of nature? Or do you mean to say rubbing the face with sand is only a reference to those who touch THE women and not those who ,,no no ,I mean NOT "THE ONE OF YOU" who came from office of nature? So it means rubbing the face with sand is only mandatory for those who touch the women and not "If ye are ill, or on a journey, or one of you cometh from offices of nature" ?

What is the command to "THE ONE OF YOU who come back from offices of nature"?

why are all these things mentioned at all, if sand is ordered to use only if you (plural) have touched the women? THE WOMEN? who are they? And heyy, what about the private parts? you mean to say The Quran, Allah Paak Almighty,order people to walk around or participate Salaat with stinkydirty private parts, as long as they have a ...errrm ,,a sandy face?

who use sand to clean his face anyway? you?

"P71 ? claims ?would certainly smear the already clean faces? ? I never knew travellers, or those
who had sex or are sick etc have clean faces by default! Erroneous.
Claims ?sa?eedan? can mean ?height? ? NQE, NCADR. Although I do know it can mean ?elevated
land?, but that is not the same as it meaning ?height? only"

Please explain this, do you mean one have to clean the face with elevated land? Which is? If we use both the definitions, does it make sense? Rub your face with elevated land, or rub your face with high sand,,aeehhh, sand which is high ? drunk sand ? Please explain

last part of the Aya- For Allah doth blot out sins and forgive again and again.

so what's the "sin" here? Not to clean oneself after toilet ? Or to enter Salaat without cleaning oneself after the toilet? Sorry, it is not about al ghaiti, it is about touching THE women. so what's the sin, not to rub ones face and hands with elevate land/ high sand, or to enter Salaat without a sandy face? Allah's mercy and forgiveness is mentioned after issuing orders to rub ones face with sand (and you now why)...does it make sense at all?