Salaam...

Yes this Islamic view was originally proposed by Rashad Khalifa and propogated by his Submission group. The idea that there was a great war in heaven between the forces of Satan on one side and that of Archangel Michael on the other side has been popular since Biblical times (Revelation 127-13).

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While this theory is popular, the reason I never got around to accepting it is this - I have never been able to fully understand how the sequence of events took place... assuming that we humans are those beings who lived in heaven and were kicked out and sent to Earth for our supporting of Satan.. Where does the story of Adam come about? I mean, when we already sided with Satan and are destined for this test on Earth, when did the whole fruit and tree story happen? 'Coz the Quran says Adam was sent from heaven to Earth after this fruit transgression. But then what about humans siding with Satan? What about Satan refusing to bow down to Adam, did that happen after the war or before? Why would that be happening if we are all destined to come to Earth for this test.... what was Adam doing in heaven if he already lost God's support by siding with Satan earlier on during the great war?

I don't see a clear sequence of events happening... its all vague and jumbled up.

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Peace

This Muslim sums it up best... he's pissed like hell and blasts all the fundamentalists n their sympathizers... brickwall brickwall

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This Muslim sums it up best... he's pissed like hell and blasts all the fundamentalists n their sympathizers... brickwall brickwall

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While the whole world is involved in hot-debates, discussions and finger-pointing with regards to the reasons that lead to the horrific massacre of innocent people in Paris, the Muslim countries see nothing new. Most Muslims could care less, as they have their own problems to deal with.

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Yes, we Muslims do not have to answer to the rest of the world, every single time some group of fanatical nut-cases blow themselves up. But the problem is that every time such a vicious attack takes place, Muslims all over the world are seen as the black-sheep that are the source of all the evil and pain in the world. This is steadily going on for the last few decades at such an alarming rate, that we might soon see a day when the world?s liberals and intellectuals themselves deem it best to 'clean' nations from this diseased religion. I fear for my children's sake, the coming of a new holocaust day, when people would no longer consider Muslims worthy of living. They will see us as being less-human (the war-propaganda machines always manage to dehumanize the enemy), and the Muslim fundamentalists are doing a damn good job to support that view.

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As rational, logical and progressive Muslims we ourselves need to be clear about what we believe in. Primary among the beliefs that are a pillar of our monotheistic heritage is that every human being is in the image of God. Thus every individual has the right to life, liberty and peace. People can be more or less accomplished or more or less successful, but all are equally deserving of life and dignity.
The second ideal is freedom. Freedom means more than ?you don?t get to tell me what to do.? Real freedom presupposes a society that both removes obstacles and provides avenues to human flourishing. The fundamentalists who want to force the ?Sharia? that dictates religion, dress, intellectual inquiry and artistic expression are not only violating freedom in a negative sense??you shall not do this because I don?t agree..??but in a positive sense??I shall never allow you to do this!? Freedom is not only the right to close your door, but the chance to open your business or write your book.

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The third ideal is the solidarity of free people. The spontaneous declaration of our religious stand on every occasion its needed, at every avenue, online, with family/ friends or anywhere else, expresses the real sense of our beliefs to people who would otherwise only see the hatred emanating from this community. Not because we were both attacked, but because we stand for the same things. Dignity, liberty and the voice of those who are living in parts of the world where they can express their concerns (as there are millions of people who cannot do so) are the underlying ideals with which we confront the enemies of civilization.
I conclude with what Martin Luther King said ?If a man has not discovered something that he will die for, he isn?t fit to live.?

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(with excerpts from time.com/4116076/paris-attacks-beliefs/?xid=homepage )

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Poem on Life

Once in Persia reigned a king,Who upon his signet ring
Graved a maxim true and wise,Which, if held before his eyes,
Gave him counsel at a glance Fit for every change and chance.
Solemn words, and these are they; ?Even this shall pass away.?

Trains of camels through the sand Brought him gems from Samarkand;
Fleets of galleys through the seas Brought him pearls to match with these;
But he counted not his gain Treasures of the mine or main;
?What is wealth?? the king would say; ?Even this shall pass away.?

?Mid the revels of his court, At the zenith of his sport,
When the palms of all his guests Burned with clapping at his jests,
He, amid his figs and wine, Cried, ?O loving friends of mine;
Pleasures come, but do not stay; ?Even this shall pass away.??

Lady, fairest ever seen, Was the bride he crowned the queen.
Pillowed on his marriage bed,Softly to his soul he said
?Though no bridegroom ever pressed Fairer bossom to his breast,
Mortal flesh must come to clay ? Even this shall pass away.?

Fighting on a furious field, Once a javelin pierced his shield;
Soldiers, with a loud lament, Bore him bleeding to his tent.
Groaning from his tortured side, ?Pain is hard to bear,? he cried;
?But with patience, day by day, Even this shall pass away.?

Towering in the public square, Twenty cubits in the air,
Rose his statue, carved in stone. Then the king, disguised, unknown,
Stood before his sculptured name, Musing meekly ?What is fame?
Fame is but a slow decay; Even this shall pass away.?

Struck with palsy, sore and old, Waiting at the Gates of Gold,
Said he with his dying breath, ?Life is done, but what is Death??
Then, in answer to the king, Fell a sunbeam on his ring,
Showing by a heavenly ray,?Even this shall pass away.?

?Theodore Tilton

When we read the above poem for the first time, we may think,? I know that everything will pass away- so what?s special??. It will look as if we understood the above passing phenomena. But there is a deeper and subtler meaning in it. Spiritual evolution lies in constant awareness ? By gaining knowledge and being able to make a clear distinction between what is passing and what is permanent after thorough inquiry.

At the onset we may think that we know this distinction. But the important factor lies in knowing what is permanent and keeping constant focus on that. That constant remembrance and awareness of what is permanent, makes the person detached from what is passing. This is called Spiritual Knowledge. The college professor while teaching may assume that he has all the answers and no questions whereas the philosopher has no answers but constantly questions everything. He cannot accept the general term of ?God? just like that. The constant inquiry and questioning will take one to the point of permanency which is ?I AM?, the meaning of "Being?, the depth of existence and make us understand that.

In the above poem, the King of Persia by saying ?Even this will pass away?, is not acting like a pessimist. He enjoys each and every moment of his life but he does not develop dependency. He is living this life, but he is detached at the same time. Thus nothing really affects him but allows him to reflect on its beauty due to its' temporariness. That's the best way to live. Every day's challenge, every pain and failure, every death would stop affecting us anymore. We just start appreciating its non-permanent nature, how everything and everyone is slowly disappearing forever.

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