bravo how to increase the value of the Trabant = wait a few decades and sell it to a museum hmm - First of all let me say that I love the Quran and my family lives by it ..... inside out. The issue I am having is that mankind, from what I have seen in a Capitalist vs Communist/Socialist society is vastly different. There is no free market to speak of in Capitalism from what I have seen, so I think that this is the 'utopia' that is being attributed to Communism/Socialism. Agreed that the objectives are/were not achieved in either systems but I think that there was more advancement in Communism/Socialism. From what I have seen, the rich in Capitalism make the poor suffer way more than otherwise (more commercialized prostitution, child abuse, debt slavery, extreme slavery to the point where 'fair' slavery is considered by that society as a high rank!!??? I mean wtf, I went on a few trips to the States and people seem to be more poor, malnutrition, waaay less educated/enlightened etc than I have seen in 3rd world countries!!) It is like a whole nation of sheep farmed to buy and kept just healthy enough to keep buying and arrogant/proud of it to boot. Anyway, I understand that freedom is necessary but that it should not have too high a price. So i must agree that socialism is closer to Islam rather the fabricated jail they call capitalism - just my opinion which may be flawed as it was based on the limited knowledge I have.

fftopic I am new to this site but there seem to be many Muslims from communist/socialist backgrounds - is this because of the above arguement that you gravitated to Islam???

I agree with this however as homo sapiens we have proven that we are pretty destructive. Now Islam asks that you use your brain to come to a reasonable compromise. If we were to eliminate poverty via communism, and alter it enough to accomodate more freedom (ie social) then the reward would benefit mankind to a higher extent. The way it is now is not exactly working for everyone. Once we eliminate stupid wars and hunger, then we will have more time to either improve the self or go in the opposite direction. Either way you go, you pay the price with your soul but at least as far as mankind goes, we are no longer living in the dark ages so we should not have these 'simple' problems. Instead we can focus our attention on more meaningful things like building a future for the good of mankind (helping your neighbour/brother) = everyone contributes and the reward is more for your soul as well as this world (mankind) ...... but in a controlled and consistent manner. Anyway just a thought.....and thank you for your insight.

Hello and peace to all,

I have reviewed your theory and find it very interesting - on a side note, it seems very logical and well thought out ..... almost clinical and without emotional undertones ie just the facts (would you consider yourself a Jinn because you seem to have certain characteristics that you describe???)

From what I understand, these guys are usually INTROVERTS and I happen to be one - albeit one who has learned to behave like an EXTROVERT for financial and social reasons. And if I follow correctly, based on some of your other posts, these guys happen to rule the world ....... it sounds like you mean Jewish people (ie I have read that 'logic' is highly prized/encouraged in Isreal, this type of personality being 'natural' in leadership positions and problem solving etc - this would help your theory if you mean the Jews are the Jinns) Anyway, I have grown up to believe that Jinn are a different race and not a kind of mind, which is structured in a certain way from birth. I have also worked on personality testing and have read extensively on the 'old school' psychology of the FOUR HUMOURS and the modern versions like Carl Jung etc ...... Another item that would help your theory because even the Arabs/Greeks were aware of and employed these theories of personalities like choleric Phlegmatic etc BUT it was never associated with Jinn!

I do not really have a direct question but would like to know more of your thoughts/answers on this topic...........Thank you

Having lived in/experienced some communist societies, the ideologies and way of life seems like an artificial form of islam without God - that role being taken on by the leadership of that society. Everyone helps everyone towards a common goal with high levels of intellect in the general population and of course everyone getting the same ....... everything! ie no poor as everyone is the same, highly efficient production capabilities, harmony within ...... at least that is what it is supposed to be in theory - And this is where my question lies as the Quran asks mankind to pretty much do the same things ie Zakat, peaceful co existence etc (**albeit Allaah asking us to do this by choice and not force as in Commie type countries) Any ideas on this ...... and thank you for reading this.