having nothing to say mr khan and sonnie?

btw if scientist new everything they wouldn't be making hypothesis. also if scientists like you(sonnie) were so smart they would have figured out what jinns are and how their nature and everything is and works also they would have proven allah to have exist and also what happens to us when we die. so mr scientist please help yourself.

sonnie jinns are made of smokeless fire as states in the quran. i believe you are a scientist and know that fire does not have a shadow. thank you.

to mr khan, um when you get sick does allah cure you sickness right away or do you go to the doctors? anyways allah does protect us but he gave humans the choice to do what they wish. and allah tests us to see what we do when we are in happiness or at trouble. people did stuff to my family not because allah told them to. allah coudl have protected us but i guess allah didint for a test because my mom is very religious and so is my dad and so am i. i have been praying 5 times since i was 10, have read the whole quran many times and memorized half of the quran also visited mecca for haj. you wont understand until a tragic befalls on someone lik it has upon my family. you are saying i am not in allahs favor. i am just in a very situation where me my family are praying none stop plus going to people for help on top. anyways allah showed me a sign and also to anyur idk why it was in Arabic question that with allah. allah probably showed me a sign to let me know that he was listening but only allah knows what allah will make of my family and my future. also there are people that can help like those jinns. they helped my mom cure from something that no doctors in the whole of new york could find anything wrong with my mom. they brought many stuff out of my moms bellybutton also scrolls that the jinns found buried with my moms name and needle and stuff somewhere near a grave. you people here wont believe so i wont get into detail. but yeah anyways may peace be upon you all sorry for my rude comment earlier.

i just wanted to share something with all of you guys but sorry you guys wont believe in what i say. and to the scientist. i did not say the jinns true form is like a color we never seen but i gave an example. the females jinn as i sed glow a golden/orangish color. but their nature if u see them is something you will never thought to have been possible for humans to experience/see. its like saying what if you saw a human that is able to fly and teleport would ever thought that can exist ? NO i gave an example with the colors. sorry if my example did not make sense to you. also im guessing you guys don't believe in black majic as it was done to our prophet mohammed and thus the last 2 surahs were revealed due to this. but its okay you guys can believe what you want. my life is at serious trouble and have been messed up from black magic effect and i believe only allah can help at this situation because the jinns and also many other trustful people i know that treat with black majci told us to just pray to allah because theres nothing more they can do to help. and i would like to share one more thing with you guys as i am very true to my islamic faith i always pray to allah about my family situation but couple months ago one day allah showed me a clear sign that he was listening to me and i made a video about it. it really made me happy and smile but i am still going through alot of stuff. you guys can take a look and again you can believe it is real or not just sharing. thank you and asalaamulikum.
heres the link to my video
http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5et97C0QpU

and there bodies dont have shadow but cloths do because their bodies are basically fake and they use cloths to cover themselves up. goto mecca and there is a masjid called al jinn masjid. i promise you will see jinns in humen form if u look carefully. you are a ignorant foo. that probably doesnt even pray and thinks praying is not nessesary .

also at mohammed khan i said they don't like to take physical forms such as something with mass because its dangerous for them because they can easily be killed. there true forms are not physical you are a dumb ass and very ignorant.i sed the guy their see their true forms only on friday nights. they have a whole another world in another dimension parallel to ours but they can come to our world in a human form if they wish to but it is very very dangerous for them. also if they go insdie a human and posses them it can be dangerous for them to do this too. that why u dont see alot of possessions happening im guessing only the dumb jinns or for other reasons do that thus we hear about exorcisms and such. you guys are dumb asses that will believe when they see it in front of your eyes. i don't really care you guys dont have to believe me you people on this forum are ignorant this is my last post. i try to share something but you guys think you guys are some kind of scholars that know everything. take care. salaam to you crappy members in this forum.

the guy gave an example of something like that. and they did not charge anything. my mom when i was 7 years old had black majci and he couldn't sleep and something would burn ins-side of her. we went to about 20 hospitals in new york and they said she was completely fine. then we went to our country thinking my mom would die because she was going crazy out of control. then we found them and they said they would try to help but its up to allah. eventually they cured my mom. and now there other problems. you wont understand unless you were in my situation and experienced it. so dont say scam and and of your bullshyt sonnie if you dont belive it okay. the people did not charge anything to us but my mom gave them some money for curing her out of her own interest. but now we have other problem and they told us pray to allah because they cannot help this time.

also let me add that when the jinns take form they said if you notice that there heads dont have a shadow and there body parts but their cloths will have a shadow tho but they said most jinns don't take forms because its very dangerous for them and they are vulnerable to die very easily.

mohammed m khan man i don't wanna argue with you. if you don't want to believe there is nothing to do that's all okay. anyways at the last post i don't really know what kind of sickness their mom had. i didn't ask them about it so i don't know if its like a common cold or what not. also i remember the guy saying you wont ever imagine how the jinns in their true form look like. that is why you will get very scared because you wouldn't ever imagine something like that could exist. he told me to think of a new color that doesn't exist try to make a new color which is not possible. we know all the light colors spectrum today so yeah he was like if you see them its not something you would ever imagined to see and it frightened him when he first saw them. also he said most jinns they dont show their true forms unless they are really close.

Evidence please.

Mohammed M. Khan

For NONE are arrogant (before their Lord). They ALL fear their Lord, high above them, and they do ALL they are commanded. -- Sura 1649-50

In the verse

And behold, We said to the angels "Bow down to Adam" and they bowed down. Not so Iblis he refused and was haughty He was of those who reject Faith.

the nature of Ibl?s is not mentioned, i.e., whether he was an angel or someone else. But the verse

Behold! We said to the angels, "Bow down to Adam" They bowed down except Iblis. He was one of the Jinns, and he broke the Command of his Lord. Will ye then take him and his progeny as protectors rather than Me? And they are enemies to you! Evil would be the exchange for the wrong-doers!

clarifies who Ibl?s is. He was one of Jinn not angels as wrongly claimed by the Christian missionaries.

We have used the traditional method of Qur'?nic exegesis involving Context & Internal Relationships, i.e., al-Qur'?n yufassiru bacduhu bacdan (different parts of the Qur'?n explain each other). What is given in a general way in one place is discussed in detail in some other place in the Qur'?n. What is dealt with briefly at one place is expanded in some other place.

And Allah knows best!

hey i made a topic of my experience with jinns but no one i believe has taken a look at it so i will post my experience here.

salaam
hello i have talked to jinns and have seen them before. you guys can believe me or not it wont really matter to me. i had gone to Bangladesh for treatment of black magic done to my family. we went to this lady and guy my mom knows and the guys dad had taught quran to many people and their were jinns that would come and learn in human form. after the guys dad died the jinns stayed with him and his wife saying we can help people with sickness from black magic and stuff. anyways the jinns go inside the women and they talk to us. anyways well the ladies voice changes and what not, it is like a possession but there good jinns. there is a whole family of jinns that they live with them and they don't harm them. they have helped many people with black magic as they did to my mom along time ago where you can read about it in another thread have made. so yeah this time they told us people messed up my brothers and wat not and it is too late they cannot do nothing and just to pray to allah. my family is going through alot of pain from magic effects. anyways i was interested and talked to them. and asked them what they eat and they told me they eat sweet food they eat like us. they have another world parellel to us. they can also take forms but if u ever see a person without a shadow then u can know they are jinns in form of humans. also they said they can travel from place to place as if how we in our mind imagine a place. the time it takes for us to imagine they can travel to the particular place. also i asked them if i can see their true form but they said they wont because it would scare me and theydont want to. anyways that jinn knew how to speak English Bengali Arabic and Hebrew. i talked to them in English Bengali and a little Arabic that i know. anyways after they left the lady get unconscious and doesn't have a clue what had happened. it is as if she woke up and is very tired . also i asked the guy if he could tell me how they look. and he told me every Friday night the jinns show their true form to them and they are like a family to them. they travel all around but when they say a certain words and stuff they can call them to come. anyways they live in Bangladesh and also London they travel from place to place. also i forgot the jinns have told me when i asked them if they can go to space. and they said before in their ancient times jinns would be able to goto space just normally but now it is not possible and they use medium such as us how we use space shuttles to go to space. also i asked them how come in America(where i live) and other big countries how come they do not know about they jinns if here in Bangladesh their are jinns and stuff. and the jinn told me i seem very interested and stuff but they didn't have time to talk because their mom was sick so they said they had to go. but they told me do you really think they dont know jinns exist? they told me that the world what we see is not what it really is. American government secretly know jinns exist and have been working with them for each others gains since many many year ago. they told me that if they expose jinns to humans it will make a big hassle and people would be frightened and it would cause a out lash and what not. they know that jinns exist and they hide it. also wait back to how the jinns look. they did not want to tell me how they look but the guy told me afterward because i seemed so interested. he told me that the guy jinns in their true forms are figured like us but are very tall with big hands and big bodies. they have a glow to them when they reveal themselves. he said if you see them you would get very scared but its used to him now. also he said the males show a little glow on themselves and also the female jinns are averaged around tall male humans and they have little wings that are tucked in and they are beautiful creatures he said and the whole room glows a golden orangish color and its something very beautiful he said. but they can take many forms and appear to look differnt but htat was their true forms and yeah that's my experience if anyone is interested. also i just remembered the jinns told me they have religions just like we humans do but they have a much greater amount of different religions and also that they themselves are Muslim and their generation goes back to the time of prophet mohammed where a few jinns heard the recitation of the quran and became Muslims and he is from that generation of jinns thus he is a Muslim jinn because that is the start of how jinns became musims. also i forgot to mention when i asked what they eat the jinn that was inside the lady said near there are 3 other jinns and they gave raisin which appear from thin air in the ladies hands it was pretty strange. but yeah i ate them and they said we eat sweet stuff like raisins. anyways that's my story. believe if or not its up to you guys. thanks

dude mmkhan you translations are not correct, if they were then the quran would be contradicting. because allah says angels can never disobey the commands of their lord. so if iblees was an angel he couldnt have not listened to allah.

Did you forget about the 'except you lord wishes''. these jinns are helping people re leave from black magic. i didn't hear stories but i was their to experience it. you ignorant as such you wouldn't believe unless you were their to witness it. as Allah says people don't believe until they see something with there own eyes but even then people don't believe stuff lol. salaam what ever you may wish i just wanted to share something to everyone. bye

also these jinns are believing muslim jinns they insisted to help them because the guys father had taught them to read quran and about the quran and islam and such. there not doing nothing bad . People are so ignorant and cant read just to see something and learn but will always make negative comments if it doesn't suit their demands and desires of how they see it fit.

Wa Alaikum Salaam,

No wonder, even I talked to jinns sun believe me, they are really good yes

Yes, in here, on this forum, I can give you their names also, one is "Faithful-jinn" and the other one is "Jinn", you believe it or not, it won't really matter to me though, and about your story, your name said it all.

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6128 And the Day We gather them all O assembly of Jinn, you have taken big part from mankind. And their supporters from mankind said Our Lord, we have indeed benefited one another, and we have reached our destiny to which You delayed us. He said The Fire is your dwelling, abiding therein, except as your Lord wishes. Your Lord is Wise, Knowledgeable.

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3440 And on the Day when We gather them all, then We will say to the angels Was it you that these people used to serve?
3441 They will say Be You glorified. You are our Lord, not them. No, they were serving the Jinn; most were believers to them.

May Allah guide us all to His path pr
Mohammed M. Khan

ur very ignorant. anyways i wouldn't lie being a muslim. bye

Why bow down to a man and not God?

because god commanded the angels and iblis to bow down to man, as it was his new creation.

i am not saying to summon the jinn. i am just saying if anyone is interested in trying. and you people are acting like jinn don't exist or their aren't ways to actually summon them. jinns are real that what i am trying to prove. oh well i dont really care. peace everyone.

You guys all are lame. you guys arent even true muslims. start understanding the quran more as it talks about jinns and such. ignorant fools.

Ayman, you are as much misguided as you are ignorant.

You say that its impossible that Jinn are living things because Allah said they are made from fire, but Allah also said that every living thing is made from water. Have you ever taken a chemistry class to learn what water is actually made from? Hint H2O

That means, 2 hydrogen atoms and 1 oxygen atom per every molecule. These are the 2 of the 3 components required for a fire.

1. Fuel -- Hydrogen
2. Oxidizer -- Oxygen
3. Ignition source.

Hydrogen by itself cannot burn. Oxygen by itself cannot burn. But when you mix them, all you need is an ignition source. Don't believe that water can actually burn?? All you need to do is "shatter" the molecule with the correct frequency. Watch this youtube video.

http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Haj4BX0trU

Or this one

http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOGAkRkCWfA

You then twist verse 7216 in a perverted manner to assume that because it says that the Jinns would be granted lots of water, that that somehow means the righteous Jinn can never be granted heaven. Have you failed to read the countless parts in the Quran where it refers to heaven as having bountiful supplies of water???? Higher heaven has endless drinks, and lower heaven is described as having an endless well of water which only needs to be pumped by hand.

Look at the description of heaven which it says Jesus and Mary were granted.

2350 And We made the son of Mary and his mother as a Sign We gave them both shelter on high ground, affording rest and security and furnished with springs.

Does this also mean that they weren't granted heaven? They were given a private condo or something?

You have no right to say things about Allah which you have no knowledge of, Ayeman, and try to pass them off as fact. It is possible that Jinn are living things, even if they were "made from fire". The "made from fire" is an allegory to say "made from energy", as opposed to the human which was made from "organic components" (i.e. clay). Still, energy can be directly derived from water.

Even furthermore I am not sure if you have every read the theories of Einstein, but Energy is equal to Mass times Constant (speed of light) to the 2nd power.

E= MC^2

Do you know what an atom is made of?? An electron spinning around a tiny proton. An atom is nothing founded in reality. Matter is an illusion. It is simply the ENERGY STATE of an atom. When you step down the energy state, you see energy released.

Every molecule, every atom in the universe, is nothing but stabilized energy frequencies (vibrations).

Water is nothing but energy. Any molecule is nothing but energy. Hydrogen is the most simple form of energy.... Therefor, if Jinn are nothing but energy, it can be described that Jinn are also made from water (which is nothing but energy).

well said mate.