Guys @ jaffar, amin, fadiva,

Hope u all doing well.

Lets clear it first, whenever i try to precise the posts i ll have to explain it again for details so bare with me in this long post as it appears its gona be long lol.

Part 1ST about that character
Part 2nd about that interesting topic we didnt do the justice what that topic deserved.

Part 1st.

When i was 8 or 9 nine years old first time in my life i heard about that person.
My uncle lost his diamond RING and it was joint family system. So they decided to visit someone who can tell them who stole it..

My mom was also with that my uncle and aunts. He correctly told them who stole it and amazingly upon asking from that person he acknowledges it.

Second part of the same story my mom was makin a decision in her heart that she will not gona come again to these places again and shockingly he said to my mom i know you will not come at this place again. (at that time my mom was thinking its against islam to seek help other than God lol)

Then few years later my cuz lost his phone and he identify the person again.

Now about me i had interest in all those things since i was kid i e magic, jinns, supernatural etc. Will discuss it in second part..

Then when i lost my phone and i been to him for the first time.
Second time my frd lost his car. @ fadiva both of the times he write it down before even asking us the purpose of visit. Thats his method that applied to all the visitors.

Its not my believe or claim but people claimed he got JINN or MOKILS.
About me i m still admitting as jafar said i really dont know how he knew all of that and incase anyone can know all of that in my 37 yrs life he was the only person who amaze me the way he tell things. On top of that i dnt really know what is the source of his information..

Adding some things to jafar words i tend to agree at some point of jafar coz few years ago i heard he stopped doing that anymore due to a reason police wanted to ask from him about a robbery and he refused to help as he dnt want to involve in gov matters so the police beat him up badly thats the last i hear about him many years ago.

2nd Part

Guys i know the difference between magic, circus magic, tricks, illusions and also how they works due to my interest in those things i myself knows some tricks with playing cards and some other things what make people amaze and they think i m some kind of magician. But in relaity i know its not really magic its the trick what i did with their eyes my hands so dam quick to show them what i want to show them or make them think what i want to make them think and also it took a lot of practise before u can confident to do it.i also learned it from someone else.

David copperfield do the same at more advance level.

Magician in circus do the same

Lot of con artist do the same

Lot of fake BABA do the same

And interestingly i already know how all that works.

@amin these two situations are different.

@jafar thanks for the link i will go into it as it appears i still did not crack how all it happened.

I m just touching the PAST part of topic this topic also need a FUTURE part some claimed to do that too but i think its better to move step by step.

TIME and SPACE is difficult

To understand.
To make someone understand.

Go into it and u will find dozen of new questions every single time.

TIME may appear different at different places but even in subjective terms scientists did not make it clear what is the actual defination of time. When we ask what is time before TIME?

Same goes for SPACE, we are unable to understand its very nature, for example in which(---) space is expanding in to?

Observers tackle it with another question and claimed it a wrong question to ask what was time and space before the beginning of TIME and SPACE?

Its similar if we ask what north in the north pole?

But north pole is a place with fix location we give it name to that specific location of our globe whereas SPACE and TIME are two totally different things.

That engineering of cosmos is at spectacular level beyond the understanding of human brain and same time its really magical and interesting to observe it.
person never get bored from it.

The interesting thing is the creator/designer of cosmos itself require the factor of TIME. It doesnt matter if he created one or one million universes what matter is how TIME factor applied on him? In start somewhere when there was NOTHING there was SOMETHING was about to come in DUE time.

And I don't think that Muhammad originally preaching 'religion', based on a pattern that I've observed a religion was usually being setup by somebody else after the proposed founder or main figure has died.

Agreed,
The history of almost all of the previous people indicating that type of approach.

Thats what happened with almost every organised religions from past till present.

Historically the earliest names are like ibne ishaq and ibne hasham i am not sure their original work still survived or not.

and for your part you ought to be honest with yourself and strive to live your life with intelligence and understanding and insight, because if you do, you are probably not wrong. and if you're not wrong, you have nothing to fear for.

Very TRUE peace

I wonder if we can come up with a better alternative of how to create?

WE cannot and we never will. Reason is the day we understand how to create, WE turned ourself in to a CREATOR.

And one more QUESTION you asked what is perfection or perfect being?

Logically perfect is the one who creates perfect beings.

Looking into ourself you will see how perfect we are?

Why we are so gullible? why we are so afraid? Why we are attentionseeker? Why we hate? Why we jealous? Why we are so self centered? Why we are so selfish? And lots of WHYs.

What is it that choose the path?
Who designed the thing that choose the path?

Further more

The factors due to which one choose a path? All are coming through 5 senses by outside agencies what forced the ONEself to choose a specific path.

What is it?

MIND or Life force or the events happened to a human body what make a memory of the information recieved by senses?

And upon recieving that information body/mind/life force choose the path what is experienced by it.

All this is illusion what make people believe they are free willed, in reality they dnt know who are they and what is it that known as "I" and what is it that choose?

Thats another matter if u submit what is chosen for you already either play negative or positive role of that play you will ending in rewards and money.

Even the paths are designed and set by path-maker or path-designer.

Example mr X is aware everything about his created character and he set a path or options for him.

Thats how he will work it out first he want that character to eat something he have option either meat or vegetable...

Now foe this he desinged the stomach what only like to digest meat hence his choice is already in the knowledge of mr X.

Now mr X set a rule if my creation will kill someone for meat then i will punish him to fire.

And then he said i told you already its your choice of choosing the path hence punishment due bravo thats called a perfect un-forceful choice. rotfl

Peace fadiva,

Read my first post what i wrote few days ago, perhaps you understand then.

That person i am talking about was miles away from our home city and how possibly he can hear anything when before even we tell him anything he infront of us write it down while he was writing he act like hes hearing from someone the voice what we all cant hear but he can.

When he finished writing then he fold that paper and give it to one of us and then je asked why u came here, the guy just told him someone stole his car then he said ok thats enough now you can open the paper what i ve given you and all details were already there, like color of car, model and make, exact time of event when car get stole.

And it was my second visit to him my first visit u can read in my post perhaps u understand, the only thing whats interesting is there is a difference between tricks and cracking of magic tricks and telling someone facts which is not possible for a stranger to know.

I am saying it only becoz i didnot hear from someone but its my own first hand witness experience. Twice he surprised me.

The only difference is parents are not aware what path kid will choose.
Source of creation knows it all.

Source of creation also created the direction in the mind to what path that kind/type of mind will follow.
Does it still feel like freewill?

Evil and good are a side of same coin. both are infact a same thing with different degrees,like light and dark. Creating characters with degrees is the act of source. Like in a movie characters are created by the writer who decide which character plays which role negative or positive. If character refuse to play a role of negative the whole script will not work he must need to b negative for the success of story. What choice do a character have in all of this?

Its not that simple how it looks i struggle myself figuring out that concept.

As i was telling earlier examine a situation can help solving lot of things.

Another situation imagine XYZ a source of creation, created something like his art work to place a conscious soul by his own master source.

Now the source of creation somehow or other interlinked with creation itself hence putting the creation in hell means source will also experience at more higher level the law of pain/suffering.

Example parents and kids are connected through a liquid and in their mind they are very connected with each other upon mistake a father burn his kid and then he may not feel physical pain but mentally he will struggle thinking his kid is burning and its he who let him burn. Its he who bring him in this world at first hand.

@ role of creator and what people said about creator love his creation way more than worldly parents and connected way more detailed than worldly parent so will creator also suffer through what he creates at first place?

I have a body my body is like a full universe and pain in one part of my body keep my whole body at suffer/un-REST mode. Some of my body parts do mistakes and will i able To punish my body parts with fire? As you taking steps further the only thing left behind is source of creation in end. it appears creator himself punishing his interconnected parts in fire that does not really make sense?

Source of everything ended in him so lets rewind
STAGES

human => parents => evolution stages ======>single cell ====> planet===>universe ===>unknown stages and unknown material =====> finally source of creation

The ending of everything leads to its source so how its possible source can punish his own creation/ideas/spirt/rooh whatever stoke u wana play.

NOTE things about past life or what we dnt remember does not really matter as the source of creation remembers it all. Actual responsibility is on the one who controls the memory not other way round.

The imagination is a very powerful tool. It is used by tricksters, fraudsters, and con artists.

I agree lot of tricksters, fraudsters, con-artist, astrologer, palmist etc use different tools including fakery of showing something whats not true but its a trick/illusion of eye example like david copperfield in the field of magic and some ancient characters like samree and the magicians with pharoah.

BUT tricking someone and telling facts what is shocking are two different things as i know how that works. its one of my interesting topic of discussion in my case due to curiousity i been to that specific person once again with some of my friends to see once again becoz thats the only one person in my life what was not tricking but telling facts each and everysingle time whoever visits him.

Second time one of our friends CAR got stolen and he wanted to ask where is the car.

When we visit and we are 5 people in total he write something in paper in which he write the model of car, color of car, what time that get stolen, the purpose of visit etc. Without even we told anything to him. Everyone get shocked too before that they were making fun and was thinking i m just taking them to a random guy.

When someone do tricks they have their explaination how they do it but it was not a trick like vanishing a piece of cloth in circus magic it was something that make u think.

People claim it was the BEING jinn who is working as associate with them in that specific cases.

Thanks for putting insight into it Jafar.

Well all those theories based on non-experimental ideas.

In our visionary observation the speed of light is what fastest we can imagine/observe. Although the speed of light having no mass but still something that make light so that type of speed is already with us.

Secondly, the things what we cannot observe like dark energy and matter and possibly million more things may b travel more faster than light. Let say someone find a formula to control over that speed so how it will react with respect to the TIME.

As we know when we are looking at stars, we are looking in past of whatever distance they are so by that formula if somone 65 million light years away from us see dinosaurs. So if he have something that travel at extraordinary speed what he will get the PAST or PRESENT?

There are lot of things require explaination about the ideas what cant b experienced like whats in black hole and event horizon and the laws of nature in there. all what we have is changing ideas and better theories. Or distant observation through telescope. Observing something from eye sight is another puzzle in this series, what is the speed of eyesight? It appears billion of light years can b seen by eyesight in less than a second.

The concept of HELL is interconnected with the factor of FEAR and CONTROLLING.

Its interesting when we examine it under different situations lem me explain by a situation in hand.

There are 6 people, 5 on one side and 1 on other side of a ROD/STICK/WIRE. And all of it is controlled by a CONTROLLER.

Now there is a choice to save one side whichever you wana save?
Most probablly controller try to save the 5 people side sacrificing one of them.

If controller have a choice to save both sides he will do it without thinking a second.

All nations and all religions and their models of hell will b filled by the opposite party.

Examples are like this majority will gona go to hell.

NOW seeing everything before it happened and create a situation in which not only 5 but perhaps more than 5 billion trillion will go to hell does it make sense? For someone who can fully control the situation, or if its a faulty creation he can stop creating it first hand? In this way he can save billions?

These question are signs to re-think about WHAT creator really will do VS what people/books said creator will do?

Thats how it appear to us..

1 we have created an image of (OURSELF) in our mind.

2 we have created an image of (OTHERS) in our mind.

1(a) others created an image of (themselves) in their mind.

2(b) others created the image/s of (OTHERS) in their mind.

When the image produce different results then our EGO hurt as we have created different image in our mind.

Example

When a person X said to another person Y (MAD/STUPID).

They will argue on the images what differ from eachother because in his own image of Y hes not stupid but he made an image as an intelligent person.

Sometimes it works more dangerously when you have VISIBLE image in case someone is a FAT person vs someone is SLIM.

Saying fat person fat will make him hurt and saying slim person slim will not make him hurt again its depend on the image that fat should b a thing of shame whereas slim and smart is a thing of compliments.

See HOW image mixing with ego, and cause all the labeling what make us happy or sad in actuality its all the game of maping your mind with directions given by a specific society.

Look in to it i already mentioned it here with equation.

https//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9610350.msg419285#msg419285

Brother ayman,

Whats about the personal experience of someone?

Example in my case many years ago i met a person who claimed to have jinn who tell him things and first time he saw me and told me things what really shocked me like, my name, the purpose of my visit, even he tell a thing what really amaze me i was with two of my aunts who were sisters to eachother and also their kids married with eachother and person ask from my aunts whats ur relation to eachother and they said, we are sisters. He laughed and said you have another relation and they both get shocked too.

What i saw as a first hand witness i cant deny how you will see at those events?

Nobody can give the correct answer except God himself.

Human can only choose the "dont know" option its not any harm admitting we dont know instead of claiming something on wishful thinking.

4011 They will say, "Our Lord, You have made us die twice, and You have given us life twice. Now we have confessed our sins. Is there any way out of this path?"

consider this one as well, perhaps hinting towards multiple lives and deaths = re-incarnation.

Re AAlameena
https//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9596520.msg51053#msg51053

That word aalameen in singular form= aalaam and urdu borrwed that word from arabic.

Example one word used as AALAM - E- BURZUKH = ( world of spirits/rooh).

But language can be tricky sometimes depend on usuage lets say the word used in quran for sky = heavens = asamawat.

Its also in plural terms let say heaven = one sky hence heavens = more than one sky.

Multiverse or parallel universes not ruled out by text of quran i guess.

Most of the times science conflicts with the ideas of religions due to the nature of religious text against time and the audience of that time. Thats why the idea of seven heavens/sky is bit difficult to understand as per the current maping of cosmos as we know things are in a huge amount.

First thing to ponder WHAT is it that go to heaven/hell?

Your body
Your brain
Your conscience
Your sense of feeling

Whatever game you wana play ask these fundamental things about a personality of any character/s.

What is personality?
A character that build up entirely on memories?

Explaining to a blind person how does colors look? He will not understand.

Our brain interpret what we see?

Is it possible all consciousness in universe is actually one unit as a whole?
Like a river flowing and everydrop in it share same atoms/particles and sepration of that water make it to other form/shape and one day that form goes back to source again.

What is it that make us "FEEL" we are this and that?
And this and that will happen when we end the continuity as living oraganism?