perhaps its not applicable to those who didnt qualify the criteria due to whatever reason..

example people in ISS (international space station).

funny POINT to ponder, its really impossible to do SEX in space station due to gravity lmao.... rotfl
and if you go for fasting from FOOD & DRINK then its only like one hour fast and more than 15 fasts in a day.

people in polar regions where they can have (long nights/permanent dark) lasting for months. so they are chilling there..

these type of situations i guess thats why author of QURAN say whoever witness the shahr-e-ramadhan.

The month of Ramadan is the month during which the Qur?n was compositely sent (to the chosen sincere allegiant Muhammad on appointing-assigning him the responsibility of the final Universal Messenger-Spokesperson) ?

It (Qur?n) serves as guidance for the Mankind ?

And distinctly self explanatory verbal passages were gradually communicated from the miscellany of Al-Huda'a the Guide (Qur?n) and Al-Furqau'n the Criterion; the Separator of right from wrong, fact from falsity-conjecture.

Therefore, if he who reaching adulthood among you was present at home in this month, thereat, he should observe it by fasting.

And if anyone has been suffering from sickness, or was embarking on a journey ?

Thereby (he may adjourn fasting) the count be accomplished during the days of another-later month.

Allah the Exalted intends easiness for you people ?

And He the Exalted never intends difficulty-awkwardness for you ?

And its purpose is that you might complete the count of fasting ?

And that you might proclaim and praise the Sublime grandeur of Allah the Mightiest upon your getting aright guided (by adhering to Qur?n) ?

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And so that you people might keep expressing gratitude.

Both the sentences are conditional --- the opposite of a person on journey is the person who is at home.

Interestingly the basic perception of Root

bn Faris stated

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That it leads to the perception of abstinence, and stasis - stagnancy at home.

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Fasting is the act and state of abstinence of activity relating to food intake and genitalia and speech.

Relying on gossips will lead nowhere.

The words of Ayah are picturesque.

Why قَوْلِهِمْ is a proclamation (not just “their saying”)

Linguistically and pragmatically, قَوْل is more than a bare utterance. In Arabic usage — classical and Qur’ān — qawl denotes a deliberate, public statement with propositional force. When the phrase is marked with the plural possessive -him in a context of communal action and dispute, it tends to indicate an authored assertion that functions politically a claim issued to persuade, to announce, to confuse, or to control public opinion.

Just realization of this point make us be right in the moment it was happening in Jerusalem and understand what exactly is pictured in the Ayah.

Firstly agree or disagree before we move forward.

This statement; quoted verbatim in Grand Qur’ān by the Ever Listener Allah the Exalted, is not of people roaming in streets but is a proclamation issued by the ruling class/clergy of that time. Watch the words, their own confusion and uncertainty is evidently reflected by the words they chose. For giving news about current occurrence, no one uses the words of certainty "indeed, undoubtedly" for breaking the news. Such words and issuance of proclamation is needed and intended to clarify and convince only when general public is doubtful about some happening. They had not accepted Easa alai'his'slaam as Al-Maseihea and the Messenger of Allah but they used the title, name and status by which he was generally recognized in the society to remove the doubts and convince people that he has been executed.

Rescue Plan of Allah the Exalted to thwart execution conspiracy against Easa alhaissalam

https//haqeeqat.pk/Rescue%20plan.htm

Mazhar I understand your distinction between shade and shadow but I see them as aspects of the same observable sign. As verse 2545 &46 directs us to consider how Allah extends the shadow then made the Sun its guide. Shadows are not independent creations but effects that point us back to His power. Whether we call it shadow or shade the sign is dynamic changing length and direction and that is what we are asked to reflect on.

In life we all hear many things conspiracy theories, political claims, even scientific facts. But the real question is what do we do with that information. Does it change how we live or is it only another headline to pass around. God gave us intellect not only to form opinions but to improve our own lives and character. That is where our real effort matters most.

At the same time I feel it is important for all of us brothers not to turn every discussion into a cycle of video links or accusations of denial. The Quran does not make this our job. Each of us is responsible for our own reflection and to share in good spirit but beyond that guidance is with Allah.

Agreed. That be the approach. My understanding is because of diction. Subject of a verb has but to be considered as entitle, the doer.

Subject of a verb is always an entity
وَلِلَّهِ يَسْجُدُ مَن فِـى ٱلسَّمَٟوَٟتِ وَٱلۡأَرْضِ طَوْعٙا وَكَرْهٙاوَظِلٟلُـهُـم بِٱلْغُدُوِّ وَٱلْءَاصَالِ۩١٥
Be aware; whoever is living-exists in the Skies and the Earth submits humbly in surrender; and will acknowledge and submit humbly in surrender for Allah the Exalted; in states arising on wilful acceptance-acknowledgement with reverence, and will do so under compulsion of coercive circumstances. However, their shadows make themselves in prostrate posture for Allah the Exalted, at occasion of the mornings and the evenings.

Their shadows perform an act.
Somewhere I found this line
//Alexius Mobius perfected the geometry of shadow appearances in the nineteenth century. He treats shadows as entities in their own right. Mobius describes the movement of each shadow by appealing to changes in its geometrical center of gravity.//

A shadow is a specific, defined image. It is the precise dark shape that results when an object blocks a source of light. It is countable.

Shade is the general, relative darkness and coolness caused by something blocking the sun. It is the area protected from the sun's harsh light and heat.

وَٱللَّهُ جَعَلَ لَـكُـم مِّمَّا خَلَقَ ظِلَٟلٙا
Realize it, Allah the Exalted has rendered out of what He has created as shadows/shades for you people —

This verb needs two objects to complete the meanings.

Subject of a verb is always an entity
وَلِلَّهِ يَسْجُدُ مَن فِـى ٱلسَّمَٟوَٟتِ وَٱلۡأَرْضِ طَوْعٙا وَكَرْهٙاوَظِلٟلُـهُـم بِٱلْغُدُوِّ وَٱلْءَاصَالِ۩١٥
Be aware; whoever is living-exists in the Skies and the Earth submits humbly in surrender; and will acknowledge and submit humbly in surrender for Allah the Exalted; in states arising on wilful acceptance-acknowledgement with reverence, and will do so under compulsion of coercive circumstances. However, their shadows make themselves in prostrate posture for Allah the Exalted, at occasion of the mornings and the evenings.

Interesting information
أَلَمْ تَرَ إِلَـىٰ رَبِّكَ كَيْفَ مَدَّ ٱلظِّلَّ وَلَوْ شَآءَ لَجَعَلَهُۥ سَاكِنٙاثُـمَّ جَعَلْنَا ٱلشَّمْسَ عَلَيْهِ دَلِيلٙا ٤٥
ثُـمَّ قَبَضْنَٟهُ إِلَيْنَا قَبْضٙا يَسِيـرٙا ٤٦
Did you not look towards your Sustainer Lord to know as to how He has stretched-lengthened the Shadow? And had He the Exalted so willed, He would certainly have rendered it (the shadow) as an object that remains motionless - still —Afterwards, Our Majesty rendered the Sun as a pointer - indicator upon it (shadow).
Afterwards, Our Majesty seized it towards Ourselves, in manner of easy - smooth retraction.

That is the point in time when objects are shadow-less.

If Allah the Exalted Willed, He Could Make It Motionless
Shadows are dynamic because of the earth’s rotation and the Sun’s apparent motion.
Hypothetical scenario if the Sun were fixed directly overhead (or Earth did not rotate), shadows could remain still — but in reality they move continuously.

Thanks Mazhar for your feedback.
When I read this verse 1681 I see it in the same flow as the rest of the passage Allah reminding us of His bounties. As
From what Allah has created He has provided shade for you(from things he created like trees, mountains, buildings, clouds), made places of shelter in the mountains, clothes to protect you from heat, and equipment to afford protection in war.

The verse is using the Arabic style of jaala not to mean that a shadow is an independent created being but that Allah arranged His creation so it provides shade as a benefit just like He made the night a covering (2547) it is about function, not a separate entity.

So the way I understand it the point is that shade is part of this larger list of human benefits. Allah arranged creation in such a way that shadows exist and we can use them for comfort and protection. To me it is less about shadows being a separate entity and more about how they like clothing or mountains serve as signs of Allah’s mercy.

Shadow and shade are different phenomenon.

Salam Mazhar when I first read your reply I was a bit lost because our original discussionwas about whether the earth is flat and the idea that the moon is just plasma You then brought in Sorensens book and I thought maybe this had a link with the shadow arguments people use in that debate. But what you’ve written seems to go in a completely different direction.

If I understand you right... you saying shadows themselves are a kind of created entity???, and even connecting this to the Prophet not having a shadow. I have to be honest this doesnot really seem related to the subject we were discussing. Also, I dont see in the Quran any basis for saying shadows are independent creations or that the Prophet had no shadow.

From the name of the book The Philosophy of Shadows I imagine it is more about how people perceive or think about shadows not about shadows being separate beings. So maybe you are using the book as a way to highlight your own understanding of certain verses. Thats fine but it seems like a different discussion altogether. I will need to find time to read the book.

Maybe we can keep this thread focused on the flat earth / moon point and if needed start another thread later for the shadow interpretations.

Note About the verse2545
Some interpret this verse as referring to shadows others even as seasonal transitions. But we should be careful not to switch definitions to suit a model the verse itself is clear in speaking about the sun as a guide for the shadow. But to me that feels like moving too far from what the text and our daily observation are actually pointing at.

Salam.

Perhaps, it was with reference to your this post
//We have already gone through three earlier videos where the same claims were made about the Earth being flat, not rotating, shadows, etc.//

It shows it as an entity
وَٱللَّهُ جَعَلَ لَـكُـم مِّمَّا خَلَقَ ظِلَٟلٙا
Realize it, Allah the Exalted has rendered out of what He has created as shadows for reflection by you people —

Mazhar I have not read Sorensen Seeing Dark Things but from the title it seems to explore shadows in a philosophical way. That actually connects well to what the Quran itself asks us to do i.e. I quote "Have you not considered your Lord how He extends the shadow… then made the Sun its guide" (2545–46).

This is not just about casually looking but about using both reason and intuition. And if we really consider the shadow fully, we see two things

• it changes in length during the day,

• it also shifts east to west.

That daily pattern is only explained by Earths rotation. If someone notices only half of this sign then they have not really fulfilled what the verse commands i.e. to reflect completely on it.

Since you must have read it, appreciate your insights.

Many use philosophy and science interchangeably.

10. (vi) Unique and amazing attribute of the Accomplisher of exalted Galaxy سِرَاجٙا مُّنِيـرٙا
    (a) Shadow is per see created entity - fellow-being. Had he this fellow?

Allah the Exalted has attributed another unique attribute as Circumstantial Adverb in the address to the Dignified and Exalted Sincere Allegiant

وَسِرَاجٙا مُّنِيـرٙا .٤٦

And as a Figure of Unique Prominence characteristically Reflector of Visible Light illuminator and Sustainer of the Life.

The circumstantial adverb (حال) is an Adjectival Phrase comprising of a noun and active participle rendering it a descriptive term. It can be interpreted both literally and figuratively. It seems this attributive descriptive phrase in litereral meaning does support the reports that exalted Messenger did not cast a shadow. In physics, a Shadow is a dark area where light from a light source is blocked by an opaque object. It occupies all of the three-dimensional volume behind an object with light in front of it. It is however merely an explanation or cause for the observation of "shadow". What exactly is shadow? In fact it is per se an Entity created

وَلِلَّهِ يَسْجُدُ مَن فِـى ٱلسَّمَٟوَٟتِ وَٱلۡأَرْضِ طَوْعٙا وَكَرْهٙا

Be aware; whoever is living-exists in the Skies and the Earth submits humbly in surrender; and will acknowledge and submit humbly in surrender for Allah the Exalted; in states arising on wilful acceptance-acknowledgement with reverence, and will do so under compulsion of coercive circumstances.

وَظِلٟلُـهُـم بِٱلْغُدُوِّ وَٱلْءَاصَالِ۩ .١٥

However, their Shadows do prostrate - lie stretched out on the ground in reverence and submission for Allah the Exalted, at occasion of the mornings and the evenings.

One of the subject of indicative mood imperfect verb are the "shadows" of all those living - existing in the Skies and the Earth. Thus they are per se entities. Their performing the act of (يَسْجُدُ) lying stretched out on the ground with face downwards is restricted to two timings of the day. The tacit importance of this fact is emphasised by rhetorical questioning

أَوَلَمْ يَرَوْا۟ إِلَـىٰ مَا خَلَقَ ٱللَّهُ مِن شَـىْءٛ

Have they not seen-given a thought towards that; which Allah the Exalted has created, in non-tangible to touch-state-entity in their own right derivatively from matter-a tangible thing?

يَتَفَيَّؤُا۟ ظِلَٟلُهُۥ عَنِ ٱلْيَـمِيـنِ وَٱلْشَّمَآئِلِ سُجَّدٙا لِّلَّهِ وَهُـمْ دَٟخِرُونَ .٤٨

The characteristic feature is that its shadows keep self shifting from the rights and the lefts in the state like of those who prostrate for Allah the Exalted. Those shadows are in a state of submissive and humble natured.

Rhetorical question is a device used to persuade and subtly influence the audience. It is a question not asked for the answer, but for the effect. It is used to emphasize a point or just to get the audience thinking. It is a very powerful persuasive and thought provoking tool. The question is about having seen the shadows, an everyday perceptual experience, receiving non-epistemic response, without noticing or recognizing their cause of existence and properties. Obviously people have been seeing the shadows of things but perhaps never thought they are but created entities of Allah the Exalted, made to originate form everything created. Exactly the manner of creation and rendition of woman as fellow-being from the First Person, the creation and rendition of fellow-being of creatures Shadow is mentioned

Read in detail
https//haqeeqat.pk/TranslationCommunicationHistory.htm

May I recommend to firstly read

Seeing Dark Things
The Philosophy of Shadows
by
Roy Sorensen

I don't want to go off topic here.. Had you simply said Yes or No.. It would have been much clearer..
Anyway, I took the help of ChatGPT with your statement, and it states you follow the Hadiths and Sunnah of the Prophet. Whatever the truth is, I don't care.. I am not here to research about you.. That's why I skipped you in the list..

here it replied..

So, when a person says, "My covenant is to remain attached solely and exclusively to... the Teacher exalted universal Messenger Muhammad (sas)," the primary meaning is

He follows the Sunnah of the Messenger (sas).

The Hadith are the indispensable vehicle or the primary source through which we know the Sunnah. But the ultimate object of attachment and emulation is the Sunnah itself—his actual way of life.

Anyway guys, anyone interested, pls watch these interesting conversations too.. Pretty cool conversation..

https//youtu.be/goesxrLEBjQ?si=Fs0_Jc9nsGXS_8bw

https//youtu.be/TybUKAeFkPU

No. Quran is declared by Allah the Exalted as "قول رسول کریم"
So there is no need to waste time in things other than it.

Thank you for clarifying your faith, which I never requested from you.. So, it sounds, unless I get you wrong, it is the Quran plus hadith or ancestral practices.. Say Yes or No to this, so, it would be much clearer.. But no compelling, if you prefer only..

Meanwhile, if there are prerequisites to read Al Quran, then the Divine would have given those prerequisites as well.
Guidance of the Divine is the guidance. Note that well.. not through the prerequisite … it requires honesty and the approach to the Divine alone, then use observations, hearing, and consciousness (meld all for reasoning).. so simple.. ‘It guides to those who conscientize’ 22 and that’s the prerequisite.. What is it? Yes, conscientize.. If not conscientize, guidance is far from reach.. Have a good day..

You add unnecessarily and see, talkative. Read again what I wrote.

Sorry I did not take into the list brothers Mazhar and Hawk who participated in the dabate.. I don't know about their faith to be exact..

Islam. And my covenant is to remain attached solely and exclusively to Qur'an and the Teacher exalted universal Messenger Muhammad sas.

I suggest to people that firstly study the famous book "How to read a book". Only then try to read the Book where Author claims it is the Greatest Book.

Grand Qur’ān

Propounded Interlingual Translation Methodology

Triplet Theory of Translation analogous to Protein synthesis
https//haqeeqat.pk/TranslationMethadology1.htm

https//haqeeqat.pk/roots/00.Tabweeb%20Part%202/79.%20Roots%20originating%20in%20Sura%2079/5.%20Dahaha%20Daal%20He%20Waw-Ya/Ostrich.jpg

وَٱلْأَرْضَ بَعْدَ ذَٟلِكَ دَحَىٰـهَآ ٣٠
And after this discharge of heat of the Sky, He the Exalted rendered the Earth like the communal ostrich pit for spawning.

The verb stems from Root د ح و/ى. Ibn Faris (died 1105) stated in his famous lexicon "That it leads to the perception of outstretching and softening the ground as a settlement. And from it is the communal pit-settlement of ostrich, a place wherein it spawns, it is so called since he makes the settlement with his feet and afterwards eggs are laid therein. It does not denote "ostrich nest".

Lane's Lexicon has rendered it like this

"inf. n. دَحْوٌ, He spread; spread out, or forth; expanded; or extended; ---also, said of an ostrich, he expanded, and made wide, with his foot, or leg, the place where he was about to deposit his eggs

أُدْحِىٌّ , and إِِدْحِىٌّ and ↓ أُدْحِيَّةٌ and ↓ أُدْحُوَّةٌ , The place of the laying of eggs, and of the hatching thereof,) of the ostrich, in the sand; because that bird expands it, and makes it wide, with its foot, or leg; for the ostrich has no عُشّ" unquote

The most prominent relationship with this Root is that of ostrich. It is the world's largest and heaviest surviving bird, and so are their eggs largest in the world 5.9 inches long and 5.1 inches wide and weighing in at around 3-5 pounds each.

Because the ostrich has an elongated neck and large protruding eyes shadowed by long lashes, it has been likened to a camel, the most liked mammal of Arabs. (Its scientific name is Struthio camelus!) Ostriches can also withstand hot temperatures and go for long periods of time without water, usually getting enough moisture from the plants they eat.

They generally live together in small groups led by a dominant male and a dominant female. After copulation, the male creates what is known as a communal pit in the Earth; 12–24 inches deep and almost 10ft wide. The dominant female then lays her eggs first before being followed by others in the group.

It is thus evident that if the subject of verb with suffixed pronoun for the Earth is the male Ostrich, it will exclusively signify the aforementioned act and the affect upon Earth.

Therefore, the irreducible semantic feature of this root is the setting of Earth as a settlement for spawning to produce offspring in large numbers, and its communal aspect.

Grand Qur’ān has used many Roots for explaining the distinct-unique features and information about the Earth—geodetics engineering. Although there may seemingly be some overlapping aspects while transferring their concepts in English language, but every Root has unique features of its own.

Ostrich communal pit in the land results in multiplication of their number into numerous. Likewise the Earth has communal aspect for humanity and their multiplication in number۔
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This phenomenon of multiplication will not be possible in off-Earth environment, even if the fiction of permanent human habitation on a planetary body other than the Earth becomes a reality.

https//haqeeqat.pk/EarthHistory.htm

Dear brother, Salam!

The Qur’an is clear that rasool (messenger) is a functional designation, not a fixed title for one individual only.

A rasool can be a human prophet (sent to a community).

A rasool can be a malaikah (e.g., Jibreel in 1919).

A rasool can even be the scripture itself, carrying the divine message (515-16, 6511).

So, the Qur’an uses the term flexibly. It always means the medium through which Allah’s message is delivered, whether person, angel, or book.

I don't follow person's or sects nor MQD does

Traditionally, mainstream schools restrict rasool to human envoys. But Qur’anic usage doesn’t box it that way. If we read without inherited filters, both “the Qur’an as rasool” and “Muhammad as rasool” are valid layers. The Book continues as rasool after him, while no new human rasool arises. That’s a balanced synthesis no need to import Mirza Ghulam Ahmad or Rashad Khalifa ideas, but also no denial of the Qur’an’s living messenger role.

Peace!

It is not just medium. Every aspect is specific. The Appointing Authority, the Person appointed, the person/persons/nation specifically towards whom appointed. The unique message/book to be delivered.

breakdown
Motion (also called translational motion) refers to the general movement of an object from one location to another. It can be along a straight line or a curved path. Examples include a car driving down a road or a ball thrown through the air.

Rotation, on the other hand, is a specific type of motion where an object spins around an internal axis. It's like a spinning top or a ceiling fan. The object's center of mass doesn't change position, but its orientation does.

"Correction"
About verse 381

I checked the word "ātaytukum ءاتَيتُكُم" with Quran Corpus
And it translated as "I (have) given you" NOT "I will give you"

So, I think the correct translation for verse 381 should be

381 God took a covenant from the prophets, saying, "I have given you the scripture and wisdom. Afterwards, a messenger will come to confirm all existing scriptures. You shall believe in him and support him." He said, "Do you agree with this, and pledge to fulfill this covenant?" They said, "We agree." He said, "You have thus borne witness, and I bear witness along with you."

Thank you.

Divine Communication (وَحْـىٚ) of guidance (هُدٙى)

The Covenant

to Grand Qur’ān

ٱلْـكَـوْثَرَ

the ultimate profundity
https//haqeeqat.pk/Divine%20Communication.pdf

The diction for relaying of Covenant is marvellous; it enables us watch it as the oath-taking ceremony. Grant of the Book is essential complement and recognition feature of ٱلنَّبِىُّ. It was incumbent upon Allah the Exalted as undertaken in the Covenant

وَإِذْ أَخَذَ ٱللَّهُ مِيثَـٟـقَ ٱلنَّبِيِّــۦنَ

You the Messenger mention the event of assigning them the responsibility they discharged; When Allah the Exalted had obtained the Pledge-Covenant-Oath of the Chosen, Dignified and elevated Sincere Allegiants, to the effect

مِيثَـٟـقَ ٱلنَّبِىِّــۦنَ It is the direct object of preceding verb. The First Noun of Possessive Phrase مِيثَـٟـقَ is derived from Root "و ث ق". Basic perception encoded is described by Ibn Faris "(تدلُّ على عَقْدٍ وإحكام) that it leads to the perception of an agreement, covenant, firm knot, bond, solemn pledge; and binding decisions, obligations". Covenant is an agreement by freewill between two sentient parties. Its provisions contain promise by a party and a solemn pledge by the other group to fulfil an obligation. It is distinct from promise and bilateral agreement; it is irrevocable. Articles of this Covenant were

لَمَآ ءَاتَيْتُكُـم مِّن كِتَٟبٛ وَحِكْمَةٛ

"That which I would have given to you individually for communication to people a segment of a book (Mother/Principal) and wisdom-knowledge of invisible- infolded facts, judging rightly in matters relating to life and conduct —

The prologue particle "لَ" renders the possibility of following statement certain in the manner of an oath. The verbal sentence is the relative clause for the Relative noun. The plural second person first object pronoun refers them individually and as collective group. If this aspect of Arabic plural pronoun is overlooked the content and intent might not be perceived accurately. The Form-IV doubly transitive future perfect verb signifies that thing which would have been delivered to them individually or as a group. The prepositional phrase is about circumstantial clause for specification of the elided second object that determines what will be given is the text drawn from a book containing knowledge and wisdom. It (ءَاتَيْتُكُـم) is a different proposition than أَنزَلَ مَعَهُـمُ ٱلْـكِـتَٟبَ بِٱلْحَقِّ, and shall be deemed accomplished when certain book is duly given

Introduction

Understanding the implied content and depth of meaning in any text—especially in Arabic—requires that we analyze not just the grammatical structure and morphological composition of the words, but also the rhetorical style employed by the author. These elements, especially when combined with stylistic choices, enable the writer to communicate far more than the literal meaning of words.

In the style of eloquence (بلاغة), one powerful technique is juxtaposition—placing two opposing realities side by side to highlight their contrast, even if they share a common origin or trait. The purpose is to emphasize the disparity of outcomes despite a shared beginning.

Before revealing the infallible fact about human design, Allah the Exalted takes oaths by two fruit-bearing trees and two geographical locations. The fig and olive are food sources—perhaps symbolically linked to sustaining this internal balance. Their selection in oaths suggests that they may have a role in maintaining or restoring the body's natural equilibrium.

The fig tree* is remarkable its pollination is carried out internally by a specific pregnant fig wasp , which not only fertilizes the tree’s internal flowers but also lays her eggs within—making the fig both a site of botanical and biological continuity. The fig wasps are species-specific, aligning with distinct fig types—a highly specialized mutual dependence. One may explore this further in encyclopedic entries.

This symbiosis—a life-form entering from outside, but beneficial—is contrasted in humans, where external intrusions like pathogens tend to weaken or disrupt homeostasis, rather than restore it.

The olive, mentioned six times (and its oil once), has been studied since antiquity for its health benefits. When both fruits are studied side by side, it may reveal deeper insights into their impact on the immune system and the preservation of human equilibrium—i.e., “تَقْوِيـمٛ أَحْسَنِ”.

A striking biological alignment lies in the fact that the olive tree (Olea europaea) — referenced in this Sura’s opening oath — has a diploid chromosome number of 2n = 46, making its haploid count n = 23, identical to that of the human being. This rare match in haploid number among plants may carry symbolic resonance with verse 4, wherein man is described as created “in the finest upright constitution.” It offers an added layer of coherence between the symbolic oath (the olive) and the subject of the declaration (the human), both echoing harmony in divine design — structurally, spiritually, and biologically.

The fact that olive (Olea europaea), which is the object of divine oath shares the haploid chromosome number (n=23)* with human beings, and that this oath culminates in the affirmation of human’s superior creation, is a striking and layered correlation — biological, symbolic, and rhetorical.

Thus, this eloquent Sura, in a compact yet profound manner, not only affirms the upright, stable nature of man’s creation but also draws attention to the means of maintaining or disrupting that balance, symbolically reflected in the fig and olive—perhaps offering both spiritual and biological implications.

*A fig is actually an inverted flower head, called a syconium, with tiny flowers lining its inner surface.

• https//pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27346392/

Allah knows what was in your thought when you wrote it.. no worries.. Remember with sympathy and emotions, you can't teach anyone or guide anyone.. Just speak the truth, if you feel it is truth and if you are convinced on it.. let the other party bring evidence against you..

so, simple..

Anyway you presented something needless in you previous thread, and now with simple line you are saying that makes no sense.. Just bring evidence to claim that the Moon is rotating.. is it all theory? Then don't teach me, cus I have learned what you have learned..

You say Moon is not in motion? Do you have any evidence? Certainly not; except hallucination.

The Book says

وَهُوَ ٱلَّذِى خَلَقَ ٱلَّيْلَ وَٱلنَّـهَارَ وَٱلشَّمْسَ وَٱلْقَمَـرَۖ كُلّٚ فِـى فَلَكٛ يَسْبَحُونَ ٣٣
Realize it, He the Exalted is the Only Who has created the Night and the Day, and the Sun and the Moon —Each one of them is in the state of swimming in a curved - girl's breast-shaped course - orbit.

Essential and Inalienable Semantic Features in All Derivatives

Regardless of verbal form, context, or usage, the following core semantic features are preserved across all derivations of the root س ب ح

Purposeful Motion

Always implies movement with direction—never idle or random.

Continuity and Flow

The action is not abrupt or isolated; it is sustained and progressive.

Orientation Toward Higher/Transcendent Goal

Whether physical or spiritual, the movement is upward, forward, or toward perfection.

Striving with Awareness

Requires willful participation, mindfulness, and effort.

Elevation or Exaltation

It lifts the subject from a lower to a higher state—morally, spiritually, or physically.

Harmony with a System

It aligns with natural, divine, or cosmic order; never chaotic or rebellious.

Glorification through Action

Not mere verbal praise, but an existential state of submission and glorifying through being.

Centring on the Divine (in Qur’ān context)

In Qur'anic usage, the root always anchors back to Allah as the ultimate recipient of tasbeeh.
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Not insult. But worry and sympathy. Before things worsen.