Look, why don't you try learning to understand English? It is really tiring that you misunderstand even the most simple statements.
You were saying that women can be cunning but not clever. I got that the first time.
Reformer said clever is miles away from being that way, with proof from Quran about woman and you're a woman .
Leyna said Aha. Qur'an "proves" that women can't be clever.
Reformer said No, not that way , I said you're "Ruse" but not clever .
Anyway. Let's skip the silly squabbles and stick to the subject. If you want to discuss women's supposedly inferior intelligence, open a new thread. Thanks.

No, this is not about the language, it is about you don't want to understand .

I said you're "ruse" but not clever . you said "aha women can't be clever" , I didn't say " can't " , they can but using another way .

P.S who needs classes in english you or me ?. As I see " you are not " it is not "you can't" >>> isn't ?

Aha. Qur'an "proves" that women can't be clever. Nice attempt at provocation. rotfl

No, not that way , I said you're "Ruse" but not clever . This is your way of taking things not by being inteligent but by using a way "ruse" to take what you want . But man uses inteligent and logic to take what he wants .

Just came across this. Reciting Ayat al-Kursi protects people from getting raped.
True Story of a Young Girl Reciting Ayat-ul-kursi

The following is a true incident that happened.
It was reported in a local paper in Rochdale (A town, northeast of Manchester), of a young woman who was raped in a small dark alley (a narrow passage between buildings) one evening.
On a separate evening around the same time, a young Muslim girl was walking home from college. Aware that it was getting dark fast, she wanted to get home as soon as possible, so her mother would not be worrying about her being outside alone at night.
The young Muslim girl faced a dilemma. To take the short-cut down the same alleyway to avoid getting home after dark, or to take the longer route and have her mother worrying herself sick about her daughters safety.
Conscious of the time, she takes the alleyway. While the girl is walking she sees a rather sinister and dark figure of a man walking towards her from the other end. As her pace quickens,
she begins to read Ayat-ul-kursi for her safety.
The man, he makes eye contact but carries on walking.
When the young Muslim girl reaches home she tells her family about this sinister looking man, they advise her to contact the police, after having read the newspaper article some time before. When she contacts the police they ask her to give a physical description of the man. It matches the description the rape victim had given.
Some days later the young Muslim girl receives a phone call from the police, asking her if she would come down to the police station to identify the man in a line up. Both the rape victim and the Muslim girl pick out the same man.
The police are confused; they ask the rapist why he attacked one girl and not the other.
In reference to the Muslim girl, he replies
?why would I attack her? when she was walking with two huge men on either side of her??
Alhamdulillahi Rabbil Aalameen.
http//dailyreminders.org/true-story-of-a-young-girl-reciting-ayat-ul-kursi/

The story is right but I think there is a little bit of distortion in your story . The girl has read many different surah and verses including Ayat Al-Kursi. And the story could be true, could be wrong but if you use Quran, you'll see that this kind of stories can be occured 80 % and God knows.

Well, I can answer you but they must remove the ban (I'm banned) .

P.S I will answer you by "Thereformer1" not by this account .

I'm both.

No, you're not . You're "Ruse" but clever is miles away from being that way, with proof from Quran about woman and you're a woman .

Btw., there is no such word as mindshunter.

There is, Typically it's "Mind's hunter" and it means the clever one from the clevers , check american dictionary .

You remind me of someone Mindshunter. Anyways, we don't remove content usually.

Yes, I remind you of your worst nightmares, you have ever seen or dreamt about it .

Now, I'm asking you to remove the ban if you're truthful, banned me will just make my situation more stronger that what I said is the truth, you said use Quran , all my verses are about Quran.

The debate was not fair, he asked me, I answered him, I asked him, he didn't answer . Why ? you tell me .

Welcome back, reformer. http//foolstown.com/sm/yaya.gif

I've knew the rule 2 and 3 that the mod tried to use it against me, well I have to remind him that he or she is the one who don't use rule 2 and 3 which makes it a biased to his power of banning anyone against his beliefs, I was thinking that the website is for all (sunni, shi'e and even atheists ) but as I see those mentioned people are not welcome and if they are they must not talk .

Is this free mind or decaive mind ?

You're "Ruse" but not clever .

maybe he means hadith are not the prophets words and he is a Quranist like us yay

The ahadeeth that was written in the thread are man-made, none of them exist in the Book of Bukhari or Muslim's book neither the other 4 books .

These kind of Ahadeeth are from a sect called "Arawfede" and they made lies about hadeeth to mislead people and deceive them and to make them reject hadeeth like you .

The ahadeeth above are lies, for these couple of reasons, as it seems you're not aware of the meaning of Hadith, so you are just allowed to know that there are reasons but reasons theirselves are too much for someone like you .

All the sayings about the prophet peace be upon him in this Thread are wrong and they are one of the lies that are attached to the prophet peace be upon him, I ask the moderator to remove them. No proof about any of the sayings. They are just a man-made .

I ask the moderators to remove them .