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  • *** Slave? ***
    N Nom_de_plume

    Note This word (regardless of meaning) is used for males only.

    Peace!

    2221
    Wa La'amatun Mu'uminatun
    ‎ولامه and surely devotee (f) مومنه believer (f)

    Wa La`abdun Mu'uminun
    ‎ولعبد and surely devotee (m) مومن believer (m)

    2810
    Litakūna Mina Al-Mu'uminīna
    ‎لتكون to she being من of المومنىن those believers (masculine pl.)

    Peace!

    General Issues / Questions

  • Pork is HALAL
    N Nom_de_plume

    Salam everyone. ...

    God is so specific and amazing in His book and never can go wrong unless we get it wrong..

    In 6145 simply mentioned Laham Khinzeer.. No AL/The added to Khinzeer.. In rest of the verses He added AL..
    And 6145 is the only place where God additionally explains about Laham khinzeer and He explains it is Rijsz/impure.. You don't find this clause in other verses..

    So why to take it noun only while it can be taken as
    "Flesh of diseased /rotton animals which is impure"

    If God said in other verses like this
    "Flesh of THE diseased / rotton animals which is impure " I don't think it is right. No need to make it definite while saying it is impure..
    But God makes it define while saying without the clause "which is impure"

    Forbidden for you 'Flesh of THE diseased animal' ... correct..

    So anyone who realized that the flesh is from THE diseased / rotton animal then avoid.. It has to be definite..

    It is not an issue of adjective here..

    Now replace all what I said of Diseased / rotton (words) with Pork or THE pork and see which one would make more sense to you in your understanding ?

    Thanks
    *** Guidance of Allah is THE guidance ***

    seafood any kind any part eg skin, bones etc.

    ‎1614 وهو and he الذى the one سخر subjugate البحر the sea لتاكلوا to thou eat ye of منه from it
    ‎لحما flesh of طرىا tender of

    • "لحما" (lahman) is a noun meaning "meat."
    • "طرىا" (tardhiyyan) is an adjective meaning "tender."

    2173 53 16115
    ‎والدم and the blood ولحم and flesh الخنزىر the swine

    2173 Wa Ad-Dama Wa Laĥma Al-Khinzīri
    53 Wa Ad-Damu Wa Laĥmu Al-Khinzīri
    16115 Wa Ad-Dama Wa Laĥma Al-Khinzīri

    Above refers to swine blood, not the blood of any animal, as there is always blood present in all meats. Above prohibits the blood in pig meat and all swine products, as the blood cells are permeated in the skin, bones, and every organ.

    To clarify for others perusing this site who are unfamiliar — In Arabic when a noun is definite (has "al-" prefix or determined by context), the accompanying adjective must also be definite. This means that if the noun is definite, the adjective must be definite as well.

    Hence it is incorrect to say "flesh the rotten" as it violates the Arabic rule that requires the adjective to be definite when the noun is definite.

    6145
    ‎ او or دما blood of مسفوحا poured forth of
    (ie the flowing blood of any animal)
    ‎او or لحم flesh خنزىر swine

    6145
    ‘Aw Damāan Masfūĥāan
    'Aw Laĥma Khinzīrin

    In the phrase "او لحم خنزير"
    or “لحم" (lahm) is a noun, specifically referring to "meat." "خنزير" (khanzeer) is also a noun, meaning "pig" or "swine."

    Arabic root word for "خنزير" (khinzir) is خ ن ز (kh-n-z). This root word is primarily associated with the meaning of "pig" or "swine." Different words derived from this root can convey different aspects or variations of the concept of a pig, such as

    •   خَنْزَرَةٌ (khanzarah) Referring to a young piglet or a pig in its early stages.
      
    •   مُخَنَّثٌ (mukhannath) Referring to a castrated or emasculated male pig.
      
    •   خَنَّازِيرُ الْبَحْرِ (khannazir al-bahr) Referring to marine animals such as dolphins or porpoises. This term is used metaphorically to describe these animals as "sea pigs" due to their physical resemblance to land pigs.
      

    It's important to note that the Arabic language, like any other language, has a rich vocabulary with various derived words and nuances. Context and cross-referencing are essential for better understanding. It is important not to make assumptions or infer words that are not present. Instructions regarding what to eat or not, whom to marry, how to divide inheritance, and similar matters are clear directives and not metaphors.

    Peace!

    Questions/Comments on the Quran

  • Pork is HALAL
    N Nom_de_plume

    https//i.postimg.cc/rm81S834/IMG-20230711-081639.jpg

    I found this interesting meaning in Lane...

    If one takes it as diseased flesh or rotten or stinking flesh why it could be wrong according to wording? But why it could be wrong taking it flesh of swine is well? But what in fact God commanded? Needs to explore...

    ‎2173 ولحم and flesh الخنزىر the swine

    cannot be an adjective ie the rotten – if a noun is definite the adjective has to be definite

    Questions/Comments on the Quran

  • Are we true believers!
    N Nom_de_plume

    Bro Nom,

    I respect your effort to prove in-built 19 in your miraculous "surah" is on par or better than surah al-Fatihah
    And now I propose you to publish your findings officially or make a book on it
    This has been done by "Masjid Tucson"
    And let the experts in both arabic language and those familiar with the concept of "probability" make a judgement!
    Just remember, "probability" is based on proper arrangement of selected parameters and not based on the computer's random permutations!
    Just do it if you are truthful!
    And then we leave it to the readers to evaluate your astonishing code 19 ;D
    I think it's fair and square!

    So long!
    224 If you cannot do this and you can never do this then beware of the Hellfire, whose fuel is people and rocks; it awaits the disbelievers.

    Thank you.

    My dear shukri,

    In the Quran, the term "kafir" (or "kāfir&quot is often translated as "disbeliever" or "unbeliever." It is derived from the Arabic root word "kafara," which means "to cover" or "to hide."

    It appears that you're still not fully grasping the concept. Let me reiterate there are no limitations when it comes to publishing multiples. This can work with any text, regardless of whether it's in Arabic or any other language and with any length of words or verses, and anyone can generate multiples from gibberish, rap, nursery rhymes, music lyrics, poetry, and more comparable to what was achieved in Chapter 1, and the selection of the poem was chosen randomly to showcase this.

    My code was not astonishing nor was it code. I simply did what they did the last 50 years which is nothing more than flipping stuff around and only showing approximately 1/19 or 5% of the expected multiples and I purposely did not show the 18/19 or 95% of the predicted failures.

    Albeit I’m more efficient at this and can outperform in a few hours what took them years by slightly modifying excel to test very long digits division using concatenation and mod functions to get by the 15 digit limitation of excel and likewise wrote my own calculator to automate some things otherwise it’s very tedious to paste into a calculator e.g., 1900 times to get only 100 multiples which is the reason you guys are fooled since it’s really boring work and hard to verify and they make it seem like 19 is everywhere when it’s exactly as predicted at only 1/19 or 5% nothing special and they purposely hide 18/19 of all failures. This is a fact!

    Regarding the matter of 224 and numerology, it has nothing to do with this discussion. Let's focus on understanding the statement and its intended meaning. I encourage you to read through the content thoroughly.

    ‎223 وان and if كنتم be you فى in رىب doubt مما from what نزلنا descend we of على on عبدنا devotee ours فاتوا so approaches ye of بسوره with chapter من of مثله similitude it وادعوا and invoke ye of شهدكم witnesses yours من from دون besides الله the God ان if كنتم be you صدقىن sincere

    ‎224 فان so if لم not تفعلوا thou fulfill ye of ولن and never تفعلوا thou fulfill ye of فاتقوا so heeds ye of النار the fire التى the one وقودها fuel its الناس the people والحجره and the stones اعدت set of (readied) للكفرىن for the rejecters

    ‎225 وبشر and glad tidings الذىن the ones امنوا believes they of وعملوا and work they of الصلحت the righteousness ان that لهم for them جنت gardens تجرى flow من from تحتها underneath it الانهر the rivers كلما whenever of رزقوا provision they of منها from it من of ثمره fruit رزقا provision of قالوا said they of هذا this الذى the one رزقنا provision us من from قبل before واتوا and given they of به in it متشبها ones analogous its ولهم and for them فىها therein ازوج spouses مطهره pure وهم and they فىها therein خلدون eternally being

    ‎226 ان indeed الله the God لا not ىستحىى shamed ان that ىضرب striketh مثلا similitude of ما what (even) بعوضه mosquito فما so what (even) فوقها above it فاما so as for الذىن the ones امنوا believes they of فىعلمون so knowing انه that it الحق the truth من from ربهم lord theirs واما and as for الذىن the ones كفروا reject they of فىقولون so speaketh being ماذا what hath اراد intends الله the God بهذا in this مثلا similitude of? ىضل misguided به with it كثىرا many of وىهدى and guided به with it كثىرا many of وما and not ىضل misguided به with it الا except الفسقىن the disobedient

    Peace!

    Questions/Comments on the Quran

  • Are we true believers!
    N Nom_de_plume

    Bro Nom,
    Your opener verse ‎أَمَّا الْوَرْدُ فَالْمُغْرِيَّةُ فِيهِ

    Fact 1
    The Opener consists of 19 Arabic letters (pass)

    Fact 2
    The sequence number of each word in the Opener followed by the number of letters
    13 25 38 43 = 19 x 697570.68 (fail)

    dear shukri, stop embarrassing yourself!

    1. all other verses in chapter 1 would fail!
    2. 6236*18/19 verses in Qur'an would fail!
    3. all verses/text have different multiples!

    first line of poem here are only a few (numerous any text!)

    4 1744 19 1 1 1401 2 13062004 3 80130401000200105 4 80105 = 19 x …
    4 1744 19 1 1401 2 13062004 3 80130401000200105 4 80105 1 = 19 x …
    1744 4 1 1401 42 2 13062004 241 3 80130401000200105 1366 4 80105 95 1 = 19 x …

    1 1401 42 2 13062004 241 3 80130401000200105 1366 4 80105 95 1 19 4 = 19 x …
    1 1401 42 2 13062004 241 3 80130401000200105 1366 4 80105 95 1 4 1744 = 19 x …
    1 1401 42 2 13062004 241 3 80130401000200105 1366 4 80105 95 19 1 1744 = 19 x …
    1 1401 42 2 13062004 241 3 80130401000200105 1366 4 80105 95 19 1744 4 = 19 x …
    1 1401 42 2 13062004 241 3 80130401000200105 1366 4 80105 95 4 19 1744 = 19 x …

    4 1 3 1401 42 2 5 13062004 241 3 8 80130401000200105 1366 4 3 80105 95 1 = 19 x …

    1 19 1 3 1401 42 2 5 13062004 241 3 8 80130401000200105 1366 4 3 80105 95 = 19 x …
    1 3 1401 42 2 5 13062004 241 3 8 80130401000200105 1366 4 3 80105 95 19 4 1 = 19 x …
    1 1 3 1401 42 2 5 13062004 241 3 8 80130401000200105 1366 4 3 80105 95 4 = 19 x …

    1744 1 4 19 1 1401 42 2 13062004 241 3 80130401000200105 1366 4 80105 95 = 19 x …
    4 19 1744 1 1401 42 2 13062004 241 3 80130401000200105 1366 4 80105 95 1 = 19 x …
    1 1744 4 1 3 1401 42 2 5 13062004 241 3 8 80130401000200105 1366 4 3 80105 95 = 19 x …

    1 3 1401 42 2 5 13062004 241 3 8 80130401000200105 1366 4 3 80105 95 19 1744 = 19 x …
    1744 1 3 1401 42 2 5 13062004 241 3 8 80130401000200105 1366 4 3 80105 95 1 4 = 19 x …

    4 1744 19 1 3 1401 42 2 5 13062004 241 3 8 80130401000200105 1366 4 3 80105 95 = 19 x …
    1744 19 1 3 1401 42 2 5 13062004 241 3 8 80130401000200105 1366 4 3 80105 95 4 1 = 19 x …

    4 1744 1 3 1401 42 2 5 13062004 241 3 8 80130401000200105 1366 4 3 80105 95 19 1 = 19 x …
    4 19 1 1744 1 3 1401 42 2 5 13062004 241 3 8 80130401000200105 1366 4 3 80105 95 = 19 x …

    1 19 1 1 1 2 40 3 1 2 4 1 5 30 6 6 7 200 8 4 3 9 80 10 11 30 12 40 13 1000 14 200 15 10 16 5 4 17 80 18 10 19 5 1744 4 = 19 x …

    https//www.boxentriq.com/code-breaking/big-number-calculator

    you are never to old to learn this very basic 3 grade stuff

    https//www.mathsisfun.com/combinatorics/combinations-permutations-calculator.html

    peace and take care!

    Questions/Comments on the Quran

  • Are we true believers!
    N Nom_de_plume

    It is relevant... Just explain why FeeHi in connection to the Rose...?

    I have dealt with hadith followers.. God clearly has explained what Maliki yuam iddeen in another chapter.. Let hadith followers dig deep. No easy path.. But you Don't iron out my question by adding a new thing..

    Note... Let those hadith followers read 8218-19 and reflect well what Malik Yaum iddeen.. I don't want discuss about that now.. Everyone has to study Quran as it deserves.. If they want..

    It’s good you read my post on 8218-19 and already posted translation of poem likewise this nineteen garbage collection works with anything; random rants, nursery rhymes, etc., simply try it for yourself if like wasting time.

    Peace and goodbye!

    Questions/Comments on the Quran

  • Does The Quran say God told Abraham to sacrifice his son? - Eid Al Adha
    N Nom_de_plume

    It was not metaphorical rather literal “so slew him” similar to how whole families including innocent babies get blown up by laser guided missiles, diseases like cancers, famine, natural disasters, etc.

    ‎530 فطوعت so prompted له to him نفسه soul (inner self or conscious mind) his قتل slay اخىه brother his فقتله so slew him فاصبح so became من of الخسرىن the losers

    530 Faţawwa`at Lahu Nafsuhu Qatla 'Akhīhi Faqatalahu Fa'aşbaĥa Mina Al-Khāsirīna

    ‎1874 فانطلقا so precedes dual حتى until اذا when of لقىا met dual غلما boy of (age below maturity) فقتله so slew him قال said اقتلت has slain thou نفسا soul of زكىه pure بغىر in other than نفس soul (consciousness) لقد hath assuredly جىت came thou شىىا thing of نكرا harsh of

    1874 Fānţalaqā Ĥattá 'Idhā Laqiyā Ghulāmāan Faqatalahu Qāla 'Aqatalta Nafsāan Zakīyatan Bighayri Nafsin Laqad Ji'ta Shay'āan Nukrāan

    ‎1880 واما and as for الغلم the boy فكان so be (are) ابواه parents’ dual his مومنىن who believers two فخشىنا so fear we of ان that ىرهقهما covered (engulfed) them dual طغىنا transgression of وكفرا and rejection of

    1880 Wa 'Ammā Al-Ghulāmu Fakāna 'Abawāhu Mu'uminayni Fakhashīnā 'An Yurhiqahumā Ţughyānāan Wa Kufrāan

    ‎1881 فاردنا so intends we of ان that ىبدلهما exchanged for them dual ربهما lord them dual خىرا better of منه from him زكوه purer واقرب and nearer رحما affection of

    1881 Fa'aradnā 'An Yubdilahumā Rabbuhumā Khayrāan Minhu Zakāatan Wa 'Aqraba Ruĥmāan

    Questions/Comments on the Quran

  • Are we true believers!
    N Nom_de_plume

    Numeric pattern is nothing for you but you are working hard with it....but you would say it is easy just software. Lol...
    Never mind.. Keep doing..

    There is no proven pattern or code 19 in the poem and likewise in fatiha or any chapter of the Quran. The method involves flipping numbers and conducting multiple calculations using Excel and a calculator, which can be a tedious process which you guys are too lazy to test other texts using same methods.

    https//www.boxentriq.com/code-breaking/big-number-calculator

    Here are a few new ones (same miracle poem) for your collection

    1
    1 1 42 2 241 3 1366 4 95
    2 1 48 2 547 3 167 4 95
    3 1 48 2 243 3 185 4 95
    4 1 48 2 157 3 251 4 95
    5 1 48 2 441 3 220 4 95
    6 1 48 2 76 3 403 4 95
    7 1 48 2 240 3 155 4 95 = 19 x …

    1 1 42 2 241 3 1366 4 95 19
    2 1 48 2 547 3 167 4 95 19
    3 1 48 2 243 3 185 4 95 19
    4 1 48 2 157 3 251 4 95 21
    5 1 48 2 441 3 220 4 95 20
    6 1 48 2 76 3 403 4 95 18
    7 1 48 2 240 3 155 4 95 19
    28 7 330 14 1945 21 2747 28 665 135 = 19 x …

    1
    1 4 1 42 2 241 3 1366 4 95 19
    2 4 1 48 2 547 3 167 4 95 19
    3 4 1 48 2 243 3 185 4 95 19
    4 4 1 48 2 157 3 251 4 95 21
    5 4 1 48 2 441 3 220 4 95 20
    6 4 1 48 2 76 3 403 4 95 18
    7 4 1 48 2 240 3 155 4 95 19 = 19 x …

    1
    4 1 1 42 2 241 3 1366 4 95 19
    4 2 1 48 2 547 3 167 4 95 19
    4 3 1 48 2 243 3 185 4 95 19
    4 4 1 48 2 157 3 251 4 95 21
    4 5 1 48 2 441 3 220 4 95 20
    4 6 1 48 2 76 3 403 4 95 18
    4 7 1 48 2 240 3 155 4 95 19 = 19 x …

    1
    19 4 1 42 2 241 3 1366 4 95 1
    19 4 1 48 2 547 3 167 4 95 2
    19 4 1 48 2 243 3 185 4 95 3
    21 4 1 48 2 157 3 251 4 95 4
    20 4 1 48 2 441 3 220 4 95 5
    18 4 1 48 2 76 3 403 4 95 6
    19 4 1 48 2 240 3 155 4 95 7
    135 28 7 330 14 1945 21 2747 28 665 28 = 19 x …

    It's all based on trial and error, with a predictable pattern where 1 out of 19 attempts (approximately 5%) yields results, while the remaining 18 out of 19 attempts (approximately 95%) do not.

    This idea is one of the silliest things on the internet, similar to the fact that about 1 out of 14 people in America (approximately 7%) believe that chocolate milk only comes from brown cows, which is humorous. laugh

    The suggestion is to implement this approach on various texts, such as random newspapers, poems, or hadiths, without concerning ourselves with the meaning of the content. The purpose is to provide you with a grasp of fundamental probability concepts, emphasizing the importance of incorporating more parameters and their corresponding multiples, which results in a reciprocal relationship.

    Well.. What is the rose (alwazad) and what is FeeHi? May I know?

    Irrelevant, see above. More relevant how to recite; how would you answer him?

    14 Owner/Māliki or Sovereign/Maliki?

    Mohammed Hijab ft. 3 Hadith Rejectors (Quranists) || Speakers Corner

    https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwmwq2hpCtE&lc=Ugxwt-nj2mFMQjUo4I14AaABAg

    Questions/Comments on the Quran

  • Are we true believers!
    N Nom_de_plume

    ch, verse sequence
    1 1234567 = 19 x 591,213
    Every chapter with seven verses will share this code ... nothing special on that!

    same like 1 3 2 4 3 6 4 6 or any 3 4 6 6 letter words ... nothing special about that!

    And know we use the number of letters in each verse
    1 19 19 19 21 20 18 19 = 19 x 6273259010622.05 (fail)

    they tried letters only first ch (failed!) then tried adding 1 and freaked out!
    how many other chapters have the same exact pattern? how many failures?

    Over a dozen facts of the pattern n = 1 1 * 2 * 3 * 4 * 5 * 6 * 7 * in surah Al-Fatihah given by "Masjid Tucson".
    And the calculation of the "probability" is done mainly on this pattern!

    flipping digits and freaking out! did I not say to try it? there are thousands!

    eg with only a few totals; forget individual letter values would fill the forum with multiples.

    ‎أَمَّا الْوَرْدُ فَالْمُغْرِيَّةُ فِيهِ
    ‎وَأَمَّا الثُّوَى فَالْهَيَامُ فِيهِ
    ‎وَأَمَّا الزَّهْرُ فَالْجَمَالُ فِيهِ
    وَأَمَّا الْوَصْلُ فَالسَّعَادَةُ فِيهِ
    ‎وَأَمَّا الرَّقِيقُ فَالْحَنَانُ فِيهِ
    ‎وَأَمَّا الْهَمَّ فَالصَّبْرُ فِيهِ
    ‎وَأَمَّا الدَّهْرُ فَالزَّوَالُ فِيهِ

    Translation
    As for the rose, allure lies within it
    And as for the aroma, it's in its vigor
    And as for the flower, beauty lies within it
    And as for connection, happiness lies within it
    And as for tenderness, it's in affection
    And as for worries, patience lies within them
    And as for time, its passing lies within it

    letters 19 19 19 21 20 18 19 = 135 total
    words 7 verses x 4 words = 28 total
    abjad value of poem = 5687 total

    v lt w w1 gv1 w2 gv2 w3 gv3 w4 gv4 tot
    1 19 4 1 42 2 241 3 1366 4 95 1744
    2 19 4 1 48 2 547 3 167 4 95 857
    3 19 4 1 48 2 243 3 185 4 95 571
    4 21 4 1 48 2 157 3 251 4 95 551
    5 20 4 1 48 2 441 3 220 4 95 804
    6 18 4 1 48 2 76 3 403 4 95 622
    7 19 4 1 48 2 240 3 155 4 95 538

    28 135 28 7 330 14 1945 21 2747 28 665 5687

    1 1 42 2 241 3 1366 4 95 4 19 1744
    2 1 48 2 547 3 167 4 95 4 19 857
    3 1 48 2 243 3 185 4 95 4 19 571
    4 1 48 2 157 3 251 4 95 4 21 551
    5 1 48 2 441 3 220 4 95 4 20 804
    6 1 48 2 76 3 403 4 95 4 18 622
    7 1 48 2 240 3 155 4 95 4 19 538 = 19 x

    1
    1 1 42 2 241 3 1366 4 95 1744 4 19
    2 1 48 2 547 3 167 4 95 857 4 19
    3 1 48 2 243 3 185 4 95 571 4 19
    4 1 48 2 157 3 251 4 95 551 4 21
    5 1 48 2 441 3 220 4 95 804 4 20
    6 1 48 2 76 3 403 4 95 622 4 18
    7 1 48 2 240 3 155 4 95 538 4 19 = 19 x

    1
    1 1744 1 42 2 241 3 1366 4 95 4 19
    2 857 1 48 2 547 3 167 4 95 4 19
    3 571 1 48 2 243 3 185 4 95 4 19
    4 551 1 48 2 157 3 251 4 95 4 21
    5 804 1 48 2 441 3 220 4 95 4 20
    6 622 1 48 2 76 3 403 4 95 4 18
    7 538 1 48 2 240 3 155 4 95 4 19 = 19 x

    1
    1 1 42 2 241 3 1366 4 95 1744 19 4
    2 1 48 2 547 3 167 4 95 857 19 4
    3 1 48 2 243 3 185 4 95 571 19 4
    4 1 48 2 157 3 251 4 95 551 21 4
    5 1 48 2 441 3 220 4 95 804 20 4
    6 1 48 2 76 3 403 4 95 622 18 4
    7 1 48 2 240 3 155 4 95 538 19 4
    28 7 330 14 1945 21 2747 28 665 5687 135 28 = 19 x

    1
    1 42 2 241 3 1366 4 95 4 19 1744 1
    1 48 2 547 3 167 4 95 4 19 857 2
    1 48 2 243 3 185 4 95 4 19 571 3
    1 48 2 157 3 251 4 95 4 21 551 4
    1 48 2 441 3 220 4 95 4 20 804 5
    1 48 2 76 3 403 4 95 4 18 622 6
    1 48 2 240 3 155 4 95 4 19 538 7 = 19 x

    1
    1 42 2 241 3 1366 4 95 1744 1 4 19
    1 48 2 547 3 167 4 95 857 2 4 19
    1 48 2 243 3 185 4 95 571 3 4 19
    1 48 2 157 3 251 4 95 551 4 4 21
    1 48 2 441 3 220 4 95 804 5 4 20
    1 48 2 76 3 403 4 95 622 6 4 18
    1 48 2 240 3 155 4 95 538 7 4 19 = 19 x

    1 42 2 241 3 1366 4 95 1744 19 1 4
    1 48 2 547 3 167 4 95 857 19 2 4
    1 48 2 243 3 185 4 95 571 19 3 4
    1 48 2 157 3 251 4 95 551 21 4 4
    1 48 2 441 3 220 4 95 804 20 5 4
    1 48 2 76 3 403 4 95 622 18 6 4
    1 48 2 240 3 155 4 95 538 19 7 4
    7 330 14 1945 21 2747 28 665 5687 135 28 28 = 19 x

    1
    1 42 2 241 3 1366 4 95 4 19 1744 1
    1 48 2 547 3 167 4 95 4 19 857 2
    1 48 2 243 3 185 4 95 4 19 571 3
    1 48 2 157 3 251 4 95 4 21 551 4
    1 48 2 441 3 220 4 95 4 20 804 5
    1 48 2 76 3 403 4 95 4 18 622 6
    1 48 2 240 3 155 4 95 4 19 538 7
    7 330 14 1945 21 2747 28 665 28 135 5687 28 = 19 x

    19 4 1 42 2 241 3 1366 4 95 1 1744
    19 4 1 48 2 547 3 167 4 95 2 857
    19 4 1 48 2 243 3 185 4 95 3 571
    21 4 1 48 2 157 3 251 4 95 4 551
    20 4 1 48 2 441 3 220 4 95 5 804
    18 4 1 48 2 76 3 403 4 95 6 622
    19 4 1 48 2 240 3 155 4 95 7 538
    135 28 7 330 14 1945 21 2747 28 665 28 5687 = 19 x

    4 1 42 2 241 3 1366 4 95
    4 1 48 2 547 3 167 4 95
    4 1 48 2 243 3 185 4 95
    4 1 48 2 157 3 251 4 95
    4 1 48 2 441 3 220 4 95
    4 1 48 2 76 3 403 4 95
    4 1 48 2 240 3 155 4 95
    28 7 330 14 1945 21 2747 28 665 = 19 x

    4 1 1744 19 1 42 2 241 3 1366 4 95
    4 2 857 19 1 48 2 547 3 167 4 95
    4 3 571 19 1 48 2 243 3 185 4 95
    4 4 551 21 1 48 2 157 3 251 4 95
    4 5 804 20 1 48 2 441 3 220 4 95
    4 6 622 18 1 48 2 76 3 403 4 95
    4 7 538 19 1 48 2 240 3 155 4 95 = 19 x

    1
    4 1 1 42 2 241 3 1366 4 95 1744 19
    4 2 1 48 2 547 3 167 4 95 857 19
    4 3 1 48 2 243 3 185 4 95 571 19
    4 4 1 48 2 157 3 251 4 95 551 21
    4 5 1 48 2 441 3 220 4 95 804 20
    4 6 1 48 2 76 3 403 4 95 622 18
    4 7 1 48 2 240 3 155 4 95 538 19 = 19 x

    1
    4 1 1744 1 42 2 241 3 1366 4 95 19
    4 2 857 1 48 2 547 3 167 4 95 19
    4 3 571 1 48 2 243 3 185 4 95 19
    4 4 551 1 48 2 157 3 251 4 95 21
    4 5 804 1 48 2 441 3 220 4 95 20
    4 6 622 1 48 2 76 3 403 4 95 18
    4 7 538 1 48 2 240 3 155 4 95 19 = 19 x

    1
    4 1744 1 42 2 241 3 1366 4 95 1 19
    4 857 1 48 2 547 3 167 4 95 2 19
    4 571 1 48 2 243 3 185 4 95 3 19
    4 551 1 48 2 157 3 251 4 95 4 21
    4 804 1 48 2 441 3 220 4 95 5 20
    4 622 1 48 2 76 3 403 4 95 6 18
    4 538 1 48 2 240 3 155 4 95 7 19 = 19 x

    1
    4 1 42 2 241 3 1366 4 95 1744 1 19
    4 1 48 2 547 3 167 4 95 857 2 19
    4 1 48 2 243 3 185 4 95 571 3 19
    4 1 48 2 157 3 251 4 95 551 4 21
    4 1 48 2 441 3 220 4 95 804 5 20
    4 1 48 2 76 3 403 4 95 622 6 18
    4 1 48 2 240 3 155 4 95 538 7 19 = 19 x

    1
    4 19 1 42 2 241 3 1366 4 95 1 1744
    4 19 1 48 2 547 3 167 4 95 2 857
    4 19 1 48 2 243 3 185 4 95 3 571
    4 21 1 48 2 157 3 251 4 95 4 551
    4 20 1 48 2 441 3 220 4 95 5 804
    4 18 1 48 2 76 3 403 4 95 6 622
    4 19 1 48 2 240 3 155 4 95 7 538
    28 135 7 330 14 1945 21 2747 28 665 28 5687 = 19 x

    1
    4 1 19 1744 1 42 2 241 3 1366 4 95
    4 2 19 857 1 48 2 547 3 167 4 95
    4 3 19 571 1 48 2 243 3 185 4 95
    4 4 21 551 1 48 2 157 3 251 4 95
    4 5 20 804 1 48 2 441 3 220 4 95
    4 6 18 622 1 48 2 76 3 403 4 95
    4 7 19 538 1 48 2 240 3 155 4 95
    28 28 135 5687 7 330 14 1945 21 2747 28 665 = 19 x

    4 1744 1 19 1 42 2 241 3 1366 4 95
    4 857 2 19 1 48 2 547 3 167 4 95
    4 571 3 19 1 48 2 243 3 185 4 95
    4 551 4 21 1 48 2 157 3 251 4 95
    4 804 5 20 1 48 2 441 3 220 4 95
    4 622 6 18 1 48 2 76 3 403 4 95
    4 538 7 19 1 48 2 240 3 155 4 95
    28 5687 28 135 7 330 14 1945 21 2747 28 665 = 19 x

    1
    1744 19 4 1 1 42 2 241 3 1366 4 95
    857 19 4 2 1 48 2 547 3 167 4 95
    571 19 4 3 1 48 2 243 3 185 4 95
    551 21 4 4 1 48 2 157 3 251 4 95
    804 20 4 5 1 48 2 441 3 220 4 95
    622 18 4 6 1 48 2 76 3 403 4 95
    538 19 4 7 1 48 2 240 3 155 4 95 = 19 x

    1
    1744 1 42 2 241 3 1366 4 95 1 4 19
    857 1 48 2 547 3 167 4 95 2 4 19
    571 1 48 2 243 3 185 4 95 3 4 19
    551 1 48 2 157 3 251 4 95 4 4 21
    804 1 48 2 441 3 220 4 95 5 4 20
    622 1 48 2 76 3 403 4 95 6 4 18
    538 1 48 2 240 3 155 4 95 7 4 19 = 19 x

    1 135 7 14 21 28 28 28 = 19 x
    1 135 5687 7 14 21 28 28 28 = 19 x
    1 28 28 135 = 19 x
    1 28 28 330 1945 2747 665 135 = 19 x
    1 5687 330 1945 2747 665 28 135 = 19 x
    1 330 1945 2747 665 5687 135 = 19 x
    1 28 135 5687 = 19 x
    1 28 5687 28 135 = 19 x
    1 5687 28 330 1945 2747 665 28 135 = 19 x
    1 28 135 28 330 1945 2747 665 = 19 x
    1 28 5687 28 330 1945 2747 665 135 = 19 x
    1 28 5687 135 28 330 1945 2747 665 = 19 x
    1 5687 7 330 14 1945 21 2747 28 665 28 28 = 19 x
    1 135 28 5687 7 330 14 1945 21 2747 28 665 28 = 19 x
    1 28 28 135 7 330 14 1945 21 2747 28 665 5687 = 19 x

    7 14 21 28 5687 135 = 19 x
    7 330 14 1945 21 2747 28 665 5687 = 19 x
    7 14 21 28 28 1 5687 135 = 19 x
    7 14 21 28 28 5687 1 28 135 = 19 x
    7 14 21 28 28 5687 28 135 1 = 19 x
    7 14 21 28 1 5687 28 28 135 = 19 x
    7 14 21 28 135 1 5687 = 19 x
    7 330 14 1945 21 2747 28 665 5687 1 28 28 135 = 19 x
    7 330 14 1945 21 2747 28 665 5687 135 28 = 19 x
    7 330 14 1945 21 2747 28 665 28 1 135 = 19 x
    7 330 14 1945 21 2747 28 665 1 28 28 = 19 x
    7 330 14 1945 21 2747 28 665 5687 135 1 28 = 19 x
    7 330 14 1945 21 2747 28 665 28 135 5687 1 28 = 19 x
    7 330 14 1945 21 2747 28 665 28 135 5687 28 = 19 x

    28 5687 135 = 19 x
    28 28 1 5687 330 1945 2747 665 135 = 19 x
    28 5687 330 1945 2747 665 135 = 19 x
    28 28 5687 7 14 21 28 = 19 x
    28 1 28 5687 135 330 1945 2747 665 = 19 x
    28 135 330 1945 2747 665 5687 1 = 19 x
    28 330 1945 2747 665 135 5687 1 28 = 19 x
    28 330 1945 2747 665 1 135 = 19 x
    28 7 14 21 28 28 1 135 5687 = 19 x
    28 28 1 5687 135 = 19 x
    28 135 1 5687 = 19 x
    28 330 1945 2747 665 135 5687 28 = 19 x
    28 1 135 330 1945 2747 665 28 5687 = 19 x
    28 1 7 14 21 28 135 28 5687 = 19 x
    28 28 135 5687 330 1945 2747 665 1 = 19 x
    28 135 5687 1 28 7 14 21 28 = 19 x
    28 28 135 330 1945 2747 665 = 19 x
    28 135 330 1945 2747 665 28 1 5687 = 19 x
    28 5687 1 330 1945 2747 665 28 135 = 19 x
    28 135 1 28 330 1945 2747 665 = 19 x
    28 1 135 28 7 14 21 28 = 19 x
    28 135 28 7 14 21 28 1 5687 = 19 x
    28 1 28 7 330 14 1945 21 2747 28 665 = 19 x
    28 135 28 7 330 14 1945 21 2747 28 665 = 19 x
    28 7 330 14 1945 21 2747 28 665 135 1 28 5687 = 19 x
    28 7 330 14 1945 21 2747 28 665 135 28 1 = 19 x
    28 7 330 14 1945 21 2747 28 665 5687 28 = 19 x
    28 7 330 14 1945 21 2747 28 665 5687 1 28 = 19 x
    28 1 135 7 330 14 1945 21 2747 28 665 28 5687 = 19 x
    28 135 5687 28 1 7 330 14 1945 21 2747 28 665 = 19 x
    28 1 135 5687 28 7 330 14 1945 21 2747 28 665 = 19 x
    28 5687 28 1 7 330 14 1945 21 2747 28 665 135 = 19 x
    28 28 135 5687 7 330 14 1945 21 2747 28 665 1 = 19 x

    135 1 28 = 19 x
    135 28 = 19 x
    135 28 330 1945 2747 665 5687 1 28 = 19 x
    135 28 5687 1 330 1945 2747 665 = 19 x
    135 28 330 1945 2747 665 5687 28 = 19 x
    135 5687 28 330 1945 2747 665 = 19 x
    135 5687 1 28 28 = 19 x
    135 1 28 330 1945 2747 665 5687 28 = 19 x
    135 28 5687 330 1945 2747 665 28 1 = 19 x
    135 1 5687 28 330 1945 2747 665 = 19 x
    135 5687 7 14 21 28 28 1 = 19 x
    135 28 7 330 14 1945 21 2747 28 665 5687 = 19 x
    135 1 28 7 330 14 1945 21 2747 28 665 5687 = 19 x

    330 1945 2747 665 28 5687 28 = 19 x
    330 1945 2747 665 28 5687 1 28 = 19 x
    330 1945 2747 665 5687 1 28 135 28 = 19 x
    330 1945 2747 665 135 28 1 = 19 x
    330 1945 2747 665 5687 28 135 28 = 19 x
    330 1945 2747 665 5687 28 135 1 28 = 19 x
    330 1945 2747 665 5687 28 = 19 x
    330 1945 2747 665 1 28 135 28 5687 = 19 x
    330 1945 2747 665 135 28 28 5687 = 19 x
    330 1945 2747 665 28 135 1 28 5687 = 19 x
    330 1945 2747 665 135 1 28 5687 = 19 x
    330 1945 2747 665 1 5687 28 28 = 19 x
    330 1945 2747 665 135 28 5687 28 1 = 19 x
    330 1945 2747 665 1 135 28 28 = 19 x
    330 1945 2747 665 5687 1 28 = 19 x
    330 1945 2747 665 28 135 28 1 = 19 x

    5687 135 1 = 19 x
    5687 330 1945 2747 665 28 1 135 28 = 19 x
    5687 1 330 1945 2747 665 135 28 = 19 x
    5687 1 330 1945 2747 665 = 19 x
    5687 135 28 7 14 21 28 28 1 = 19 x
    5687 7 14 21 28 1 135 = 19 x
    5687 28 1 7 14 21 28 135 = 19 x
    5687 135 330 1945 2747 665 1 28 28 = 19 x
    5687 135 7 14 21 28 1 = 19 x
    5687 135 28 28 330 1945 2747 665 = 19 x
    5687 28 1 28 7 14 21 28 = 19 x
    5687 330 1945 2747 665 28 1 = 19 x
    5687 1 28 28 135 7 14 21 28 = 19 x
    5687 7 330 14 1945 21 2747 28 665 28 135 = 19 x
    5687 135 7 330 14 1945 21 2747 28 665 28 1 = 19 x
    5687 7 330 14 1945 21 2747 28 665 135 1 28 28 = 19 x
    5687 1 135 7 330 14 1945 21 2747 28 665 28 28 = 19 x
    5687 1 28 135 7 330 14 1945 21 2747 28 665 = 19 x
    5687 28 28 1 7 330 14 1945 21 2747 28 665 = 19 x
    5687 28 135 1 7 330 14 1945 21 2747 28 665 = 19 x

    Questions/Comments on the Quran

  • Are we true believers!
    N Nom_de_plume

    Code 19 in the opening statement of the Quran (the Basmalah ... بِسمِ اللَّهِ الرَّحمٰنِ الرَّحيمِ)
    Coincidence or divine design?

    no code 19 no coincidence no design it consistently fails for other verses in same chapter
    it’s simply flipping through different iterations searching for multiples which is really dumb

    Just answer to my question that's more than sufficient.. Why arabic letters in 29 chapters...

    29 is not 19 is it?
    initials (under study) not separate verses until 100s of years later suspect are abbreviations.

    Again — what did 7431 mean to those believers at time of revelation and 1400 years after?

    Lastly, I kindly request that you consider focusing your attention on one topic at a time and exhibit a willingness to independently acquire knowledge, rather than relying solely on others to provide information. It is considered polite to respond to questions posed to you instead of evading them. Furthermore, it would be advantageous for effective communication if you refrain from spamming threads and make an effort to utilize proper grammar, such as utilizing tools like OpenAI to assist you. Thank you for taking these suggestions into account.

    I would like to see if anybody here willing to accept the challenge
    Just produce your own surah with seven verses
    And list down the in-built code 19 as been done by "Masjid Tucson"

    Again — no 19 code they posted junk inconsistent with other chapters flipping numbers deceiving cowards hiding 18/19 of all failures only showing 1/19 predictable multiples to beguile those ignorant and themselves which works with any text and with any number (this is easy to understand simply try it for yourself and learn).

    One popular form of Arabic poetry is the "Qasida," which typically consists of multiple stanzas, each containing a specific number of verses. While the number of verses in a Qasida can vary, it is not uncommon to find Qasidas with seven verses. These shorter Qasidas are known as "Qasida Sab'a" or "Qasida Munsariha."
    Here is an example of a Qasida Sab'a

    ‎يا من له عطائه وفاءٌ مجملاً
    ‎يا من قلبه بالوصل لي على حرٍّ
    ‎يا من له تواضع الأنبياء لمجده
    ‎يا من له أنوارُ الأرض والسما أنفسٍ

    ‎إنما عفوه في الأرض عادةٌ لمجده
    ‎وعفوه في السما تجده بالمغفّرةِ

    ‎يا ليت من ينصف المظلومين من القتلة
    ‎يا ليت من ينتقم للمظلومِ مِن أعدٍّ

    Translation
    O one whose generosity is complete,
    O one who grants me closeness in times of hardship,
    O one whose majesty humbled even the prophets,
    O one whose light resides within every soul on earth and in the heavens,
    Indeed, His forgiveness on earth is customary to His glory, And His forgiveness in the heavens is found in His pardoning,
    If only there were someone to seek justice for the oppressed from the killers,
    If only there were someone to avenge the wronged from their enemies.

    Arabic poem with 7 verses is attributed to the poet Ibn al-Qarih, and it goes as follows

    ‎أَمَّا الْوَرْدُ فَالْمُغْرِيَّةُ فِيهِ
    ‎وَأَمَّا الثُّوَى فَالْهَيَامُ فِيهِ
    ‎وَأَمَّا الزَّهْرُ فَالْجَمَالُ فِيهِ
    ‎وَأَمَّا الْوَصْلُ فَالسَّعَادَةُ فِيهِ
    ‎وَأَمَّا الرَّقِيقُ فَالْحَنَانُ فِيهِ
    ‎وَأَمَّا الْهَمَّ فَالصَّبْرُ فِيهِ
    ‎وَأَمَّا الدَّهْرُ فَالزَّوَالُ فِيهِ

    Transliteration
    Ammā al-wardu fal-mughriyyatu fīhi
    Wa ammā ath-thūwā fal-hayāmu fīhi
    Wa ammā az-zahru fal-jamālu fīhi
    Wa ammā al-waṣlu fal-sa'ādatu fīhi
    Wa ammā ar-raqiqu fal-ḥanānu fīhi
    Wa ammā al-hamma fal-ṣabru fīhi
    Wa ammā ad-dahru fal-zawālu fīhi

    Translation
    As for the rose, allure lies within it
    And as for the aroma, it's in its vigor
    And as for the flower, beauty lies within it
    And as for connection, happiness lies within it
    And as for tenderness, it's in affection
    And as for worries, patience lies within them
    And as for time, its passing lies within it

    letters 19 19 19 21 20 18 19 = 135 total
    words 7 verses x 4 words = 28 total
    abjad value of poem = 5687 total

    190 iterations ~10 multiples, 1900 ~100 multiples
    Go start flipping thousands of ways (hide failures!)

    ch, verse sequence
    1 1234567 = 19 x 591,213

    words, total
    4444444 28 = 19 x 23391812

    letters, words
    135 28 = 19 x 172

    ch, total words, letters
    1 28 19 19 19 21 20 18 19 = 19 x 674,694,311,642,201

    ch, verses, words, abjad total
    1 7 28 5687 = 19 x 909,773

    5687 28 7 1 = 19 x 2,993,309

    I’ll leave numerous others as an exercise feel free to continue uncovering additional "facts."

    Peace!

    Questions/Comments on the Quran

  • Are we true believers!
    N Nom_de_plume

    The computer found 251,735 such numbers …

    lol ignorant of computing, statistics, and basic probability they teach 10 year olds.

    Before you make statement saying 100% garb.. First reflect if you are believer

    Anyway.. Be happy with what you are satisfied. After all believera only will get convinced as per the verse... So.. I dont mind you reject it.. Coz verse confirms your stance..

    Is it a test for a believer to determine if they are too dumb to understand simple numerology tricks? What was the test conducted 1400 or 100 years ago?

    People who identify themselves as believers also believe that stoning women after childbirth or marrying 6-year-old girls is acceptable.

    Did you follow my instructions and try any of those methods, such as attempting different combinations of letters (which failed), or adding different numbers to the front or back? For example, in Ch1, they achieved monotonous work, which provided them with a sense of "arousal" as a reward.

    Try applying the same techniques for any single multiple to other chapters, and you will experience approximately six instances of "arousal" (welcome to the nineteenth addicts disease club!)

    Soon, you will find yourself scrutinizing your own posts, timestamps, street addresses, and everything around you.

    Similarly, apply any parameter, whether it be verses, words, or combinations thereof, and you will encounter 6236/19 instances of "arousal"!

    Questions/Comments on the Quran

  • Are we true believers!
    N Nom_de_plume

    See this link
    http//www.masjidtucson.org/publications/books/bp2/BeyondProbability_TheKey_AlFatehah.pdf?
    Here the miracle-19 plays it vital role in this challenge

    100% ignorant garbage for dummies
    Simple digit flipping hide 18/19 fails show 1/19 hits
    Zero consistency multiples posted with other chapters
    Take any one parameter ~5 other chapters predictable
    Apply same methods other numbers 7, 11, 13, 17, 23, 29
    No 19 code in Qur’an any single parameter ~1/19 predictable
    There’s no nice way to say it other than you guys are ignorant
    Likewise you guys can’t read basic stuff suggest learn numbers

    feminine and masculine eg nineteen morons (masculine)
    تِسْعةَ عَشرَ بليداً

    http//allthearabicyouneverlearnedthefirsttimearound.com/p3/arabic-numbers/

    Questions/Comments on the Quran

  • Quran through Hadith
    N Nom_de_plume

    Hadiths have so much contradictory statements that it leaves us in doubt

    Example

    How long after revelation commenced did the Prophet (pbuh) live in Mecca and Medina?
    There are a number of hadith in Bukhari and Muslim on this subject.

    peace, to everyone what's the difference in words used?

    ‎• سَنَةٍ (sanah or sanatin) - "year" from root س ن و (s-n-w)
    ‎• سِنِينَ (sinīna) - years plural of “سَنَة" (sanah)

    ‎1247 قال said تزرعون thou planting سبع seven سنىن years (lunar/solar?)

    ‎• عَامٍ (aam or aamin) - "year" from root word ع م و (a-m-w)
    plural is "أَعْوَامٍ" (a'wamin), dual عَامَيْنِ (aamayni)

    ‎1249 ثم furthermore ىاتى bringeth من from بعد after ذلك such عام year (lunar/solar?)

    ‎3114 وفصله and separation (breastfeeding) his (said person) فى in عامىن year two (lunar/solar?)

    Is GOD not the only Master-sole authority

    peace why post Arabic without verse numbers or which words you’re translating to what unless to make difficult for those perusing the site who are unfamiliar and explain without study of language close to that time period e.g., poetry, inscriptions, hadith etc., how to recite anything including Fatiha?

    http//tanzil.net/#14 hit play button to recite

    Owner Māliki ? single occurrence
    OR
    Sovereign Maliki ?
    https//youtu.be/-PqP0BCiTlE

    4 occurrences
    ‎1272 صواع cup الملك the sovereign (king)
    ‎1276 دىن creed الملك the sovereign (king)
    ‎621 الملك the sovereign
    ‎1142 ملك sovereign الناس the people

    https//youtu.be/gMVvpovqa9w

    Questions/Comments on the Quran

  • Alcohol, someone explain this article to me please?
    N Nom_de_plume

    peace,
    with leading alif denotes a repeated action

    1. needs to be specific — avoids “him” is not
    2. masculine plurals are feminine “ha” not “hu”

    ‎590-91 ىاىها O you الذىن the ones امنوا believes ye of انما solely الخمر the inebriant والمىسر and the wager والانصاب and the monuments (altars for sacrifice) والازلم and the arrows (superstition divining) رجس filthiness من from عمل work الشىطن the devil فاجتنبوه so avoids ye it (spiritual uncleanliness) لعلكم perhaps you تفلحون succeeding ‎انما solely ىرىد intended الشىطن the devil ان that ىوقع cause بىنكم between you العداوه the hostility والبغضا and the animosity فى in الخمر the inebriant والمىسر and the wager وىصدكم and hinder you عن about ذكر remembrance الله the God وعن and about الصلوه the connection (prayer) فهل so can انتم is/are you منتهون who ceasing?

    obviously getting drunk and gambling leads to hostility, fighting, and loss of wealth, health, etc.

    lifestyle of avoidance and spiritual cleanliness

    2230
    ‎فاجتنبوا so avoids ye of الرجس the filthiness من from الاوثن the fetishes (idols)
    ‎واجتنبوا and avoids ye of قول speech الزور the false

    ‎3917 والذىن and the ones اجتنبوا avoids they of الطغوت the false idols ان lest ىعبدوها worshipped they them

    ‎4237 والذىن and the ones ىجتنبون avoiding كبىر greater الاثم the detriment والفوحش and the immoralities واذا and when of ما that غضبوا angry they of هم themselves ىغفرون are forgiving

    ‎4912 ىاىها O you الذىن the ones امنوا believes ye of اجتنبوا avoids ye of كثىرا much of من from الظن the assumption ان indeed بعض some الظن the assumption اثم detriment (harmful)

    ‎5332 الذىن the ones ىجتنبون avoiding كبىر greater الاثم the detriment والفوحش and the immoralities الا except اللمم the small faults ان indeed ربك lord your واسع extensive المغفره the forgiveness

    General Issues / Questions

  • You would find many a contradiction in it (Quran) 4:82
    N Nom_de_plume

    peace!

    482 اختلفا akhtilāfāan/divergences (contradictions) of كثىرا kathīrāan/many of
    akhtilāfāan (trailing alif) occurs once in Qur'an otherwise a contradiction!

    5th line from top 4th word
    https//corpuscoranicum.de/en/manuscripts/73/page/17v?sura=4&verse=82

    another example concerning fingerprints
    753 اىحسب do calculated الانسن the humankind الن that not نجمع we assemble عظمه bones his
    754 بلى nay قدرىن capable (able) we على on ان that نسوى we restore بنانه fingertip his

    individual fingerprints are unique if not true or any prints same e.g.
    if identical twins didn't have unique prints would be a contradiction!

    https//www.mdpi.com/sensors/sensors-10-04206/article_deploy/html/images/sensors-10-04206f8-1024.png

    numerous examples from inheritance which everyone gets wrong e.g.

    412 ولكم and for you نصف half ما mā/what ترك left ازوجكم spouses yours (pl.) ...
    ولهن and for them (feminine pl.) الربع the fourth مما mimmā/from what تركتم left you

    مما mimmā/from what (take from the whole/pay first)
    ما mā/what (take after paying off those others first)

    example husband mother father (correctly)
    1/3 mother (specific per 411)
    1/3 husband (1/2 * 2/3 what left)
    1/3 father (remainder)

    example wife mother father (correctly)
    1/3 mother (specific per 411)
    1/4 wife (take from the whole)
    5/12 father (remainder)

    if to husband مما mimmā/from what (extra meem)

    example husband mother father (incorrectly)
    1/3 mother (specific per 411)
    1/2 husband (take from the whole)
    1/6 father (remainder)

    6th line from top 3rd word from the end (left)
    https//corpuscoranicum.de/en/manuscripts/73/page/13r?sura=4&verse=12

    Questions/Comments on the Quran

  • Isn't the Bible better...
    N Nom_de_plume

    https//youtu.be/lqSLx7Z4r9s

    Jay Smith
    To Him , "Allah is just a pagan god"

    https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAxpfs3PRjc

    missionary and others at that London park zoo preaching to the ignorant
    he bashes hadith gets aroused at hadith cites wife, allat which is refuted

    6101 بدىع originator السموت the skies والارض and the land انى how ىكون being له to him ولد offspring ولم and not تكن it be له to him صحبه companion his وخلق and creation كل each شى thing وهو and he بكل in every شى thing علىم knower

    Matthew is the only people who meet and saw Jesus and wrote his experience / perception on a scroll.
    He was a tax collector, well educated and have ample money to bought writing materials (scrolls).

    Gospels were not written by the apostles or eyewitnesses, explains Rabbi Tovia Singer
    https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrfuDfPkI3A

    As for the issue of stoning to death for adultery, I agree that it is not mentioned explicitly in the Quran. However, it is worth noting that there are hadith narrations that mention this punishment. It is important to approach this topic with caution and consider that the application of such punishments requires strict conditions and adherence to the principles of justice outlined in the Quran.

    burying a woman to her chest after she gives birth then bashing her head with rocks is godless.
    likewise misinterpreting women's irregular menses to mean 6 year old girls and marrying them.

    654 والى and those (feminine pl.) ىىسن despaired من from المحىض the menstruation من from نساىكم womenfolk yours ان if ارتبتم doubts you فعدتهن so number theirs ثلثه trio اشهر lunar cycles والى and those (feminine pl.) لم not ىحضن menstruated ...

    46 وابتلوا and test ye of الىتمى the orphans حتى until اذا when of بلغوا reach they of النكح the marriage (age of puberty or maturity) فان so if انستم perceives you منهم of them رشدا rational of فادفعوا so deliver ye of الىهم towards them امولهم wealth (inheritance) theirs ...

    ok to suckle grown men; what about female orphans when they reach puberty?

    Mohammed Hijab "Refutes" Shaykh Albani
    https//youtu.be/x3_hsrWG9co?t=519

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  • Chapter Ar Rahman.... Fabiayyi Aalai Rabbikuma Thukazziban
    N Nom_de_plume

    إِلًى (ʔilan), إِلَى (ʔilā), pl. آلَاء‎ (ʔālāʔ)
    benefits, favors, etc.

    769 اوعجبتم do wonder you ان that جاكم came you ذكر remembrance من from ربكم lord yours على on رجل man منكم among you لىنذركم to warned you واذكروا and remembrance ye of اذ when جعلكم made you خلفا successors من from بعد after قوم folk نوح Noah وزدكم and increase you فى in الخلق the creation (stature) بصطه extensively (with letter saad denotes plural) فاذكروا so remembrance ye of الا favors الله the God لعلكم perhaps you تفلحون succeeding

    774 واذكروا and remembrance ye of اذ when جعلكم made you خلفا successors من from بعد after عاد Aad وبواكم and settled you فى in الارض the land تتخذون thou taking من from سهولها plains its قصورا palaces of وتنحتون and thou carving الجبل the mountains (habitable) بىوتا houses of فاذكروا so remembrance ye of الا favors الله the God ولا and not تعثوا do mischief ye of فى in الارض the land مفسدىن who corrupt they

    5355 فباى so in which الا favors ربك lord your (sing.) تتمرى thou dispute

    (31 occurrences repeated verbatim)
    5513 فباى so in which الا favors ربكما lord yours dual تكذبن thou deny two (cited next)
    5514 خلقا creation of لانسن the human من from صلصال mold clay كالفخار like the pottery
    5515 وخلق and creation الجن the jinn من from مارج smokeless flame من of نار fire

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  • Let`s end the code 19 mystery right now,Quran is perfect, Solved using science
    N Nom_de_plume

    7430
    "Over it is Nineteen"

    ASK any scientist what is the greates number in all of science

    The surah number that those letters appear as follows
    2, 3, 7, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 19, 20, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 36, 38, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 50 and 68

    peace, work on reading comprehension not numerology

    666 علىها over it (feminine) ملىكه controllers/angels (masculine)

    7429 لوحه scorching للبشر to the mortal
    ‎7430 علىها over it (feminine) تسعه nonet عشر ten
    “are” a group of nineteen (masculine entities)

    a few mathematician’s favorites

    Pythagorean for all angles
    c^2 = a^2 + b^2 − 2ab cos(C)

    e, Euler's number 2.71828 …

    The Golden Ratio (phi = φ) 1.6180339 …
    “the most beautiful number”

    likewise perrywest29

    29 initialed chapters
    29 words in opening
    “the most beautiful recitation”
    https//youtu.be/9EQeOzKqiIE

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  • Quran through Hadith
    N Nom_de_plume

    All translations say it is Zakath.. So for you guys ZAKAT is gov tax.. Is that all your know bros...?

    did you not understand this?
    quote author=Nom de plume link=topic=9612271.msg440774#msg440774 date=1681986265
    they decided to call it "zakat"

    other tax they called "khums" and 1/5 doesn't mean tax
    other tax they called "jizyah" and it does not mean tax

    likewise, what were they giving / not giving?
    273 314 وىوتون and giving الزكوه az-zakāata
    وهم and they بالاخره in the afterlife its هم themselves ىوقنون assured being

    417 الذىن the ones لا not ىوتون giving الزكوه az-zakāata
    وهم and they بالاخره in the afterlife its هم themselves كفرون rejecting

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  • Is polygamy Quranic
    N Nom_de_plume

    2432
    Could be saying prioritize marrying off those who aren't married yet. Parents finding a suitable partner for them. Like how that man wanted to marry off one of his daughters to Moses. 2827. I think the verb for marriage is the same.

    4129
    Could be saying a man can't love all wives equally and it's not his fault but he shouldn't completely neglect one. And since it's saying not to leave one hanging, doesn't that show polygamy is allowed?

    I have also heard traditional Muslims say that because 43 says "marry two, three or four but if you fear you won't be just then marry only one", it shows polygamy is recommended because it first says marry multiple women only one if fear won't be just.

    peace,

    43 similar 4129 and 2432 leading alif to help via work sponsorship
    womenfolk (fem pl.) cannot be twos (m) or threes (m) or fours (m)
    forming groups of twos or threes or fours or communally to help

    43 وان and if خفتم fear you الا that not تقسطوا thou just ye of فى in الىتمى the orphans فانكحوا so help betroths via work sponsorship ye of ما what طاب moral لكم to you من among النسا the womenfolk (fem pl.) مثنى twosome (twos masculine) وثلث and triplet (threes masculine) وربع and quartette (fours masculine) فان so if خفتم fear you الا that not تعدلوا thou equitable ye of فوحده so unified او or ما what ملكت entrust اىمنكم right hands yours ذلك such ادنى minimal الا that not تعولوا thou oppress ye of

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