Excellent question. I have touched on this before and have not received an answer. Maybe this time I will be more lucky. I'd like to expand if I may.

How do followers understand the Koran? Are Adam and Eve to be taken as real people who had children and procreated to determine the lineage for all mankind?
Biology teaches us that the male is a derivative of the female form. We humans today know about the SRY gene activating testosterone which activate the conversion of the Wolffian ducts to form male sex organs. From the female form. So we know that "Eve" is created before "Adam".

How do people here respond to these 2 questions?

Why do you think so?

It could be that God created Adam and Eve and they didn't go through the natural modern day reproduction process to be created, so the SRY gene is irrelevant.

Salam bro,

The brother mentions "Janah, eternal bliss, etc.." do I thou those verse could be relevant. Bu I appreciate the differentiation you make between Jana and Firdaws .

May God reward you.

Oh how much do I hate my phone's spell check !!

Omarkhattab. You live in a country where QuranistNetwork exists! I am jealous! They even have some annual meetings and conferences. Google quranist network tv and you should find the youtube channel and website.

oh didn't know! I'll sure look them up !

Thanks !

Peace OmarKhattab

Welcome to the forum.

Where about from the UK ?

Peace.

Preston, Lancs,

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Thank you all !!

But don't you guys see the need for Masjids that hold congregations free of forgery & with accordance to the Quran only? Where other Muslims can make Salat together, discuss religion, learn and study the scripture?
What are the challenges? Can we start raising donations? Is the revivalits Submitters movement not popular enough yet?

Peace brother,

There is no mention of word Jannah or Jannat in 2311 and the thread is about Jannah not alFirdaus.

May Allah bless you,
mmKhan

Salam bro,

The brother mentions "Janah, eternal bliss, etc.." do I thou those verse could be relevant. Bu I appreciate the differentiation you make between Jana and Firdaws .

May God reward you.

Surat The Believers
In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful
Successful indeed are the believers;
who are reverent during their Contact Prayers "(Salat)".
And they avoid vain talk.
And they give their obligatory charity "(Zakat)".
And they maintain their chastity.
Only with their spouses, or those who are rightfully theirs, do they have sexual relations; they are not to be blamed.
Those who transgress these limits are the transgressors.
When it comes to deposits entrusted to them, as well as any agreements they make, they are trustworthy.
And they observe their Contact Prayers "(Salat)" regularly.
Such are the inheritors.
They will inherit Paradise, wherein they abide forever.

Salaam brother,

Welcome to the forum handshake

InshaAllah soon you will reject every man made hadith. Do you think Allah forgot to mention something in His Book? I hope not.

Maybe you can start different threads for your questions.

Salaam,
Bender

Thank you ! handshake

yea I think I'll start dedicated threads for all issues I raised..

Asalamu ALaikum Ya'll !

I've been recently introduced to non-traditionalist Islam, and I felt like I was being to re-introduced to Islam all over again. Although I've always had my doubts about the so called Hadith, and the way it was compiled but this website puts it in a very enlightening way, so Jazakumallah Khayran.

I am still finding it hard to reject all Hadith for I think it still provides an explanation to a lot of things that seem to be left out from the Quran (Astaghferullah its' probably my brainwashed traditional mind thinking ) , but things like Khole' , where women are giving the right to divorce themselves come from the hadith,

also the Salat..I am still not sure how to pray according to the Quran, I find it very difficult to leave the way I was taught to pray and make Wudu.

Perhaps some of you brothers and sisters can provide me with some support..

I also find the lack of community for Muslims who reject traditions, like the lack of non traditional masjids very challenging. I live in the UK and there aren't any I know of here, although I do know many people who openly reject traditions, narrations and accept nothing but the Quran but are still forced to practice according to Sunna due to the lack of community. Also, every time I tell friends and family how I only see Quran as the only true source of Islam, not imams, not traditions, nothing else, they all seem to accept it and sometimes agree. So to many people I've talked to it's not much of an alien idea.

I would also like to suggest that we refer to ourselves as The Muslims ( Al Muslmin) , not the Quranist, or whatever because we're not a sect, we are only Muslims (Submitters).

Shouldn't this movement of Islamic revival of the authentic message of God be revived and spread? Shouldn't there be community centers and more support literature for The Muslims? Or is competing with the Wahabi petrodollar the biggest challenge of our movement?

I am sorry I've raised too many topics in one thread but my is my mind is literally rushing with thoughts that I feel like sharing.

Anyways thank you all again, and hope that I'll get some answers to the questions, I raised from the more knowledgeable inshallah, or at least provoke a discussion for the topics I mentioned.