Salaam, I see what you meant now, thank you for your clarification, and for quoting the verses about provisions.

Peace Israfeel, You reason like a Madman, the Quran also does not forbid choking cats to death or having sex with inanimate objects. Don't bother with him. What I've noticed is 'hadithist' need everything spoon fed to them. It is like they've never heard of common sense.

Thank you all! Thank you very much for your reply kylixguru I found out al-amiyr's forum www.forum.thehiddenbook.net I browsed it and found it very interesting However, I stay there on free-minds to follow some interesting threads, hoping strongly that the administrators will open the Qur'aan Cosmological Model thread. Indeed, the discussions in this thread were very interesting also. Peace to everybody, raspberry red