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  • Need some help understanding...
    S Sidi

    007035
    "O ye Children of Adam! whenever there come to you messengers from among you, rehearsing My verses (Arabic ayati) to you, those who are righteous and mend (their lives), on them shall be no fear nor shall they grieve" here yes

    guidance from Allah continues

    002038
    ?We said Go down / forth, all of you, from hence; but verily there comes to you from Me a guidance; and whosoever follows My guidance, there shall no fear come upon them neither shall they grieve?

    020123
    ?He said Go down hence, both of you, one of you an enemy to the other. But when there comes to you from Me a guidance, then whosoever follows My guidance, he will not go astray nor come to grief?

    039071
    ?And those who disbelieve are driven unto hell in troops till, when they reach it and the gates of them are opened, and the warders of them will say to them Came there not to you messengers of your own, reciting to you the revelations of your Lord and warning you of the meeting of this your Day? they say Yes, verily. But the word of doom of disbelievers is fulfilled?
    006048
    ?We send the messengers only to give good news and to warn so those who believe and mend (their lives), upon them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve?

    This can also be noted with respect to Prophet Noah (pbuh) who must have had support as there is a reference to a plurality of messengers.

    026.105
    ?The people of Noah rejected the messengers?

    also

    025037
    ?And the people of Noah, when they rejected the messengers, We drowned them and We made them as a Sign for mankind and We have prepared for (all) wrong-doers a grievous Penalty?

    Please also note the plurality in the following verses

    026.123
    ?The Ad (people) rejected the messengers?

    026.141
    ?The Thamud (people) rejected the messengers?

    026.160
    ?The people of Lut rejected the messengers?

    026.176
    "The Companions of the Wood rejected the messengers"

    It is clear that there seems to be more than one 'messenger' working in tandem and as an aid to the 'central figure' delivering the message of God to these communities. This is further seen in the plurality of messengers in Surah (Chapter) Yasin when two messengers were sent and were then strengthened with a third (3614)

    It appears from these verses that anyone who assists in delivering the message or acts as a henchman along with the appointed messengers, is also referred to as a ?Messenger?

    peace )

    This is good explanation with regards to 0735 & 3340. and also 1047 - And for every nation a Messenger.......

    peace

    Questions/Comments on the Quran

  • The First Creation
    S Sidi

    Salam Pazuzu,

    We were spawn but evolution is definitely out.

    The Quran confirms that we were all living in God's Kingdom before we were brought into this world. Although this is our first and only life on planet earth yet it is not our first existence. We were put to death and reborn into this life on earth thru the wombs of our mothers.

    671-2"Most exalted is the One in whose hands is all kingship, and He is Omnipotent. The One who created DEATH and LIFE for the purpose of distinguishing those among you who would do better. He is the Almighty, the Forgiving"

    Since nothing in the Quran is a coincidence, and since God is the Most precise in expressing and delivering any truth, we cannot overlook the order in which the words "The One who created DEATH and LIFE.....". The placing of the word "death" before the word "life" indicates that we were put to death before we were brought to this life on earth, hence we must have been alive before we came to this world.

    Further proof from The Quran

    4011"They will say, "Our Lord, you have put us to death twice, and You gave us two lives; now we have confessed our sins. Is there any way out?"

    Sometime, in this previous existence, a feud arose in the Heavenly Society

    3867-69"Say, "Here is awesome news. That you are totally oblivious to. I had no knowledge previously, about the feud in the High Society."

    In this feud where Iblis was banished from paradise just after the creation of the first mankind - SPAWN FROM THE EARTH. Subsequently, an incident happend.......

    238-39"We said, "Go down therefrom, ALL OF YOU. When guidance comes to you from Me, those who follow My guidance will have no fear, nor will they grieve. As for those who disbelieve and reject our revelations, they will be dwellers of Hell, wherein they abide forever."

    And ALLAH made a covenant with Adam and ALL of us.......

    Then, Adam received from his Lord words, whereby He redeemed him. He is the Redeemer, Most Merciful.

    7172"Recall that your Lord summoned all the DECENDENTS of Adam, and had them bear witness for themselves "Am I not your LORD?" They all said, "Yes. We bear witness." Thus, you cannot say on the Day of Resurrection, "We were not aware of this."

    Remember GOD's blessing upon you, and His covenant that He covenanted with you you said, "We hear and we obey." You shall observe GOD; GOD is fully aware of the innermost thoughts.

    Consequently, the first death ended our life in the previous life which was in God's Kingdom and not here on Earth.

    Salam / Peace

    Questions/Comments on the Quran

  • Which direction to pray?
    S Sidi

    Salam Bro Jaafar and Sis Ala

    @Ala

    hmm, I concur with you to a certain extent.

    In verses 02144,149,150 - In these verses it is not mentioned of Salat but the context in those verses points on a contrary. ALLAH says ...."turn your face towards Masjidil Haraam whereever you are.........." HE had extablished a focul point and for what, if its not for a specific purpose.

    A good example is AQ-1087, where Bro Jaafar corrected me, if you check the context of the verse you will find that the Qiblat mentioned does not means direction but instead gathering / meeting point and it has nothing to do with direction of Salat albeit Salat is mentioned in the verse.

    Thank you Bro Jaafar and Sis Ala. Its been an education for me )

    Salat & Zakat

  • Which direction to pray?
    S Sidi

    Salam,

    I know that Qiblah is taken for granted by people who think its the direction for where to face during the salat. Nowhere in the Quran you can find Qiblah in that meaning, if you read the ayas without preconceptions. Honestly I think you are taking Qiblah for granted, so I challenge you to read about Qiblah in the Quran and ask yourself again, what does this mean suppose you dont know anything about Qiblah as if you are going to learn what it means for the first time. If you already did that then please explain your line of thought with ayas.

    peace

    Salam

    The Arabic word 'Qibla' is formed from its root word 'QAF-BA-LAM' and means to face or front something, to advance, to encounter or to confront face to face. It forms words such as 'istaqbalahu' which means that he faced him or it, that he turned his face towards him or it or indeed met him.

    Other word derivates are also formed such as 'qubalatahu' which means opposite to, in a position so as to face him or it. Other words are also formed which imply a direction, point, place or something which is in front of another thing.

    The Quran consistently uses the word 'Qibla' in the context of a direction of devotion or prayer (2142, 2143, 2144, 2145, 2145, 2145, 1087)

    AQ-10087

    "And We inspired Moses and his brother with this Message "Provide houses for your people in Egypt, make your houses into direction (Arabic Qiblatan) to establish prayers and give glad tidings to those who believe!"

    Salam

    Salat & Zakat

  • Who Was the Pharoah of Moses
    S Sidi

    Salam Bro Layth

    I read your article on "Kingdom of Isreal" and I find that there is a missing link.

    AQ-02102
    And they followed what the devils recited over the Kingdom of Solomon. And not Solomon who disbelieved but the devils disbelieved. They teach the people magic and what was sent down to the two angels, Harut & Marut, in Babil. And not they both teach any one unless they say, "We are only trials, so do not disbelieve." They learn from those two that by which they cause separation between a man and his wife. But they do not harm anyone through it except by permission of ALLAH. And they learn what harms them and does not benefit them. And certainly they knew that whoever purchased it could not have in the hereafter any share. And surely evils is what they sold themselves, if they only knew.

    The a/m verse tell us that the Children of Isreal was in Babil , prior to their journey to "The Muqaddas". Babylon was the "Misr"-Citadel-Fortress.

    To support the above verse,

    AQ-0520
    And when Moses said to his people "O my people, remember the favours of ALLAH upon you when HE placed Prophets amoung you and made you Kings and HE gave you what HE had not given to anyone from the worlds."

    The a/m verse tell us that the Children of Isreal after Joseph was made Prophets and Kings and as such they ruled the land of Babylon and they were prosperous until they trangressed and thats where the wrath fo ALLAH befalls them, read AQ-174-5

    There are Archeological & Historical facts that tell us the children of israel was enslaves in Babylon.

    1. EXODUS - 0521-26
      ALLAH sent Moses as a reedemer to the Israelites and they were told to enter "The Muqaddas". In order to that a military expedition has to be carried out. The Israelites refused and they were punished - barred from entering "The Muqaddasa"for 40 years.

    2. AFTER 40 YEARS - AQ-02246-251
      After 40 years ALLAH sent a Prophet together with Thalut, the new King of Isreal, and a young warrior, David , whereby, David killed Jalut (Goliath). The Isrealites enter "The Muqaddasa"victorious. ALLAH says in the AQ-17104-

    And WE said after him to the children of israel, "Dwell in the land, then when comes the promise of the hereafter, WE will bring you in gathering."

    The Muqaddasa mentioned in AQ-0521 was in South Arabia near the Land of Sheba AQ-2720-27.

    1. FINAL WARNING TO THE ISRAELITES
      AQ-1706-07
      Then when WE gave back to you your independence from them and WE supplied you with wealth and sons and WE made you more influential.
      If you do good, then it will be good for you, and if you do bad, then so be it. But when the promise of the second time comes, they will make your faces filled with sorrow and they will enter the temples as they did the first time and they will strike down all that was raised up.

    ALLAH KNOWS BEST

    This is only for your info, Salam Bro

    General Issues / Questions

  • Israel
    S Sidi

    No no.. blue stripes resembles Atlantic and Pacific ocean and the white is the continent between them..
    Which includes from Canada up to Argentina/Chile on the south. that's where "The promised holy land is".

    This inline with what Maverick has shown earlier..
    http//www.econ.ohio-state.edu/jhm/arch/loslunas.html

    So you who are not jews and living in the America continent, better start packing your things and move to hmmm.. that tiny land in the middle east! rotfl rotfl

    PS Archeological evidence can be 'derived' to support any conclusions..

    Salam / Peace

    rotfl rotfl rotfl

    General Issues / Questions

  • Israel
    S Sidi

    Salaam,

    I just recently heard someone say that the blue stripes are the Nile and Eufraat and the white is the land between those 2 rivers which belongs to Israel. I don't know if that is what the desginer had in mind or what some people claimed it to be.

    Salam Bro

    You might be right or maybe the blue stripes represent Persian Gulf and Red Sea and white in between is Arabian Peninsula o

    Salam

    General Issues / Questions

  • Israel
    S Sidi

    Salamun Alaikum

    Lets get back to the topic ISRAEL

    Can anyone guess what the Flag of Israel stands for?

    General Issues / Questions

  • Thank You
    S Sidi

    Salaam brothers and sisters, hope to find all of you in peace and blessings of Allah sun

    Im sorry but ive been in a hard week out of home ,so i delay some Pms and posts, im sorry to all O0

    wise words Maverick, I can use the same post as you for my situation... we learn a lot within this blog, people are very different form each other, discussions sometimes get more hot, but in any case we are here not to point finger to anyone or be rude, but to learn the best way we can, Tolerance is the key word for Living, and listening different opinions make our mind work with logic.

    Maybe my views of some issues are not the same as many people, but as long respect me ill respect everybody also, no matter what kind of thought may have or an different opinion.

    Really hope that all of you keep writing and posting , n this case, specially you Marverick

    Salaam to all of you my "Big familly" peace pr group

    Salamun Alaikum to ALL

    Yeah, this is Spirit of Islam & Maverick no hard feelings man yay

    General Issues / Questions

  • The Bible Is Not The Tawrat (Torah) & Injil (Gospel)
    S Sidi

    Peace Maverick,

    I'm not sure what the point is in claiming that there are portions of the book based on the chronology of 544-547. But I will address two of the questions/points that you make here.

    0544-47 is a definition with regards to The Book that was sent to mankind. My point is that GOD, with HIS wisdom, sent from Pro Noah to Pro Jesus THE BOOK mentioned in 0689, which was a canon comprising of The Torah and The Gospel and that The Torah was a Portion of the Book if it is without The Gospel. The Torah is complete at its own level.

    I would think that it is referred to as a "guidance and light" and a "guidance and lesson for the righteous" would be enough.

    I do believe that there are some similarities between Pro Jesus and Pro Muhammad with regards to inspiration that was sent to them. The only difference is that Jesus was given the inspiration from a young age. Jesus was the Word of GOD - guidance and light and lesson for the righteous. I believe that his desiple might have recorded this guidance, but the question is did he complete his mission before his demise? From the Quranic perspective, it seems that he did not. If thats the case, is it not that guidance and light incomplete? And is that the reason why The Quran refered The Torah as stipulated below

    Have you noted those who were given part of the scripture, and how they are invited to uphold this scripture of GOD, and apply it to their own lives, then some of them turn away in aversion?
    which has a corelation with
    Why do they ask you to judge among them, when they have the Torah, containing GOD's law, and they chose to disregard it? They are not believers.

    I am not a linguistic but I know that The Injeel which Jesus spoke was in Aramaic and Aramaic derives from Arabia. It was the Greek who copied the word.

    *The Torah was never mentioned as a Book as far as The Quran is concern. It is a part of The Book that GOD sent after Pro Abraham.

    From the above which I quote and I like to correct myself that The Torah was refered to as a book as stated by the Quran 0287 and 1701

    Peace

    General Issues / Questions

  • The Bible Is Not The Tawrat (Torah) & Injil (Gospel)
    S Sidi

    Peace Bigmo

    The problem here is that people are expecting a Quran like scripture from the previous scriptures and because they don't find the previous scriptures are like that they think it is not valid. You know millions of people follow the Torah and Gospel, in fact probably billions. They are scriptures that have insired many men and women towards God's path. It's was those scriptures contain that is important.

    AQ-1736 Do not accept anything that you yourself cannot ascertain. You are given the hearing, the sight and the mind in order to examine and verify.

    Even with The Quran you are to verify. I will try to explain 0544 to 0547, which are definition, it is up to you to verify. If you think that I am wrong, correct me.

    First Portion of THE BOOK mentioned in 0689 that was given to 16 of the 18 Prophets
    We have sent down the Torah, containing guidance and light. Judge by it the prophets, those who had submitted, those who were Jewish and the rabbis and the priests, with which they were entrusted of GOD's scripture, and they were witness to it. Do not fear human beings; you shall fear Me and do not trade away My revelations for a cheap price. Those who do not rule in accordance with GOD's revelations are the disbelievers.

    1. The 1st portion of the Book was sent to all people - The people of Noah, Hud, Saleh, Abraham, Lot up to Moses.
    2. New directives - The Haj ritual was to be carried out as per info from the Quran 02125 to 127, 0396 to 97 and 2226 to 31. This directives were given to Pro. Abraham.
    3. Prove to me from The Torah perspective , that the haj ritual is stipulated in it. Tell me where.

    Second Portion of The Book - given to Pro Moses, 1 of the 18 prophets mentioned in 0689 And we decreed for them in it that the life for the life, the eye for the eye, the nose for the nose, the ear for the ear, the tooth for the tooth, and an equivalent injury for any injury. If one forfeits what is due to him as a charity, it will atone for his sins. Those who do not rule in accordance with GOD's revelations are the unjust.

    1. Second Portion of The Book was sent to Pro Moses for the children of Isreal and also the believers of the people of the Pharoah.
    2. New directives were added and that is the Criterion - AQ-0253 & 2148
    3. 0543 proves that the Torah prevails during the era of Pro Muhammad

    Third Portion of The Book - The Gospel given to Pro. Jesus - 1 of the 18 prophets mentioned Subsequent to them, we sent Jesus, the son of Mary, confirming what was before him, The Torah. We gave him the Gospel, containing guidance and light, and confirming what is between his hand, the Torah, and augmenting its guidance and light, and to enlighten the righteous.

    The people of the Gospel shall rule in accordance with GOD's revelations therein. Those who do not rule in accordance with GOD's revelations are the wicked.

    1. The Gospel was given to the children of Isreal as Prophet Jesus was sent to the Children of Isreal - AQ-0349
    2. The Gospel was The Word of GOD - 04171
    3. Prove to me that The Gospel prevails during the era of Pro. Muhammad as The Torah was.

    *The Torah was never mentioned as a Book as far as The Quran is concern. It is a part of The Book that GOD sent after Pro Abraham.

    Peace

    General Issues / Questions

  • The Bible Is Not The Tawrat (Torah) & Injil (Gospel)
    S Sidi

    I'll let you take it from here. Please remember to provide an explanation of each verse that is consistent with your belief that the Torah and Injeel, existing at the time of the Quranic revelation, were "fabrications". Also remember, it is irrelevant what you may think Torah and Injeel "really" mean, for you must interpret your definition, whatever it may be, consistently with the verses below.

    Do you think that i am joking with you. Is this forum a place for people to joke around?

    I never say that the Torah is fabricated. In fact the Jewish law still stands AQ-06146 AND AQ-06154, which states that it was a complete book. I did mentioned that the gospel was incomplete or fabricated.

    I understand very well of the verses 0541-49.

    Explain to me

    1-0323 & 0444 - Who are these people who were given "The Portion of The Book"

    2-0253-Explain "izh" and "kitab", what kitab was GOD refering to?

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  • The Bible Is Not The Tawrat (Torah) & Injil (Gospel)
    S Sidi

    No you did not. In fact your "interpretation" was so self evidently contrary to the text, I thought it best not to comment. You are wrong that 543 is addressing Jews and Christians, it is addressing Jews only, try reading 541-42 while following the pronouns. This is the only point I could gather from your confused writings, at the end you conclude that the "gospel is incomplete or fabricated", if that is so then tell us how can God command people to follow a gospel which is "incomplete and fabricated" see 547?? Conveniently, you left that verse out of your "analysis"!! I maintain my request for exegesis of 541-49, post each verse sequentially and explain their meaning. Cutting up the Quran into little pieces to suit your fancies is not exegesis! Jumping in and out of various contexts to string along an incoherent theory is not exegesis!

    It is you who REFUSE to understand. I have given a very simple explanation. The fact is that you do not understand the intricacies of the Quranic system. To read the Quran from one angle is not appropiate. You interprete the Quran to your liking in order to deceive. What can we expect from a Bani Isreal, your forefathers have been doing that. Blood is much thicker then water.

    Seems to me that you smart alex bani Isreal, explain to me those verses.

    General Issues / Questions

  • The Bible Is Not The Tawrat (Torah) & Injil (Gospel)
    S Sidi

    Peace Maverick,

    It is very telling that those who are so vehement in their rejection of the Bible, will not come near the Quranic verses. I will patiently wait for a "good" bible rejecting "quranist" to provide exegesis of 541-49.

    As 33-4 reveals these people are in serious error. "Nazzala AAalayka alkitaba bialhaqqi musaddiqan lima bayna yadayhi waanzala alttawrata waalinjeela, Min qablu hudan lilnnasi waanzala alfurqana inna allatheena kafaroo biayati Allahi lahum AAathabun shadeedun waAllahu AAazeezun thoo intiqamin"

    He has sent down on you the book in truth confirming what is between its hands, that is He sent down the Torah and the Injeel before this, as a guidance to men, that is He has sent down the criterion. Truly those who suppress and deny the truth of God's signs, for them is a severe punishment; and God is Almighty, Avenging

    I have already explain to MM with regards to AQ05-41-49. It is on this page 5.

    Furthuremore the translation of 0303-04 is inappropiate, should be-

    0303 Sent down to you the book in truth confirming what is between your hands and sent down The Torah and The Injeel

    0304 Before this was a guidance to men and HE sent down The Criterion......

    The Criterion is The Quran. Please check 02185 and 2501

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  • The Bible Is Not The Tawrat (Torah) & Injil (Gospel)
    S Sidi

    salaam to all

    Ive been out of home this week thats why im posting less, but InhsAllah all of you are in good health and in Peace and Blesings of Allah sun

    SIDI you saidHe will revealed the revelation in stages but he died before he accomplised his mission.

    where in AQ says that Isa died before accomplished his mission? really like to know because theres no one passage with that..unleast in my AQ.
    Not pointing to you, but really wish to know wheres that passageD O0

    Salaam to all

    NOMAD AlAndalusi

    Salamun Alaikum To All

    No problem Bro Nomad, you have every rights to question me and I like that,

    AQ- "He will speak to the people from the crib, as well as an adult; he will be one of the righteous."

    The above verse tell us that that he revealed the Gospel when he was a baby up adulthood,

    When Jesus sensed their disbelief, he said, "Who are my supporters towards GOD?" The disciples said, "We are GOD's supporters; we believe in GOD, and bear witness that we are submitters."

    "Our Lord, we have believed in what You have sent down, and we have followed the messenger; count us among the witnesses."

    They plotted and schemed, but so did GOD, and GOD is the best schemer.

    Thus, GOD said, "O Jesus, I am terminating your life, raising you to Me, and ridding you of the disbelievers. I will exalt those who follow you above those who disbelieve, till the Day of Resurrection. Then to Me is the ultimate destiny of all of you, then I will judge among you regarding your disputes.

    AND

    "I told them only what You commanded me to say, that `You shall worship GOD, my Lord and your Lord.' I was a witness among them for as long as I lived with them. When You terminated my life, You became the Watcher over them. You witness all things.

    The verses tells us that Pro Jesus died during his ministry on a drastic moment.

    Furthermore

    Have you noted those who were given part of the scripture, and how they are invited to uphold this scripture of GOD, and apply it to their own lives, then some of them turn away in aversion?

    The above Quranic verse confirmed that what the people of the book have with them is incomplete and they were invited to believe in the Quran for their own salvation.

    I hope this helps and please correct me if I have left out any.

    Take care Brother, have a good journey and salam

    General Issues / Questions

  • The Bible Is Not The Tawrat (Torah) & Injil (Gospel)
    S Sidi

    That's because I see no need to address irrelevant questions to people who don't bother to even read history. Nicea had nothing to do with the canon. The precursor of the modern canon was as early as 170 AD (Muratorian Fragment) in response to the Marcionite heresy, and there was general consensus about the acceptance of the four gospels way before a formal council decided anything. You don't even know enough to decide whether or not a question on the topic is valid.

    I already addressed the question of language. Whether or not you choose to accept that is your business. Mohammed spoke Arabic, no? Yet there are Hebrew and Greek words in the Quran. Does that bring its legitimacy into question, too? Answer regarding 33 and 541-49, please.

    MM your lack of understanding of the Quran is because you do not know the intricacies of the Quranic system and you do not understand the Arabic language. There is no Greek words in The Quran AT ALL. As for Hebrew is actually Aramaic and it is a semetic language. Somehow or rather it is connected. With regards to the Gospel, lets look,

    Why do they ask you to judge among them, when they have the Torah, containing GOD's law, and they chose to disregard it? They are not believers.

    If you look at the verse above, you find that GOD use the word Torah only. Why Torah only? This verse is addressing to the Jews and Christians when they asked Pro Muhammad to solve their disputes. What happen to the Gospel? Lets go on,

    Have you noted those who received A PORTION OF THE BOOK, and how they choose to stray, and wish that you stray from the path?

    What did GOD meant when HE said b]'A Portion of the Book'. Lets go back to AQ0683-88 where GOD mentioned the names of 18 Prophets & AQ0689 - These Prophets were given "A BOOK" and Judgement and Prophethood......If you analize these verses, you will find that A BOOK was given

    First, to Prophet Noah then inheret by his decendents/people and to
    Second, Prophet Abraham, then inhere again by his decendents/people and to
    Third, Prophet Moses, with new directive and inheret again by his decendents/people

    For the above 3 points let go back to AQ0544
    We have sent down the Torah, containing guidance and light. Ruling in accordance with it were the PROPHETS who submit, jews as well as the rabbis and the priests, by that with which they are entrusted of THE BOOK of GOD and they were witness thereto. Therefore, do not reverence human beings; you shall reverence Me instead. And do not trade away My revelations for a cheap price. Those who do not rule in accordance with GOD's revelations are the disbelievers.

    AND

    Again a new directives were to be added to "THE A BOOK"
    Subsequent to them, we sent Jesus, the son of Mary, confirming the previous scripture, the Torah. We gave him the Gospel, containing guidance and light, and confirming the previous scriptures, the Torah, and augmenting its guidance and light, and to enlighten the righteous.

    What is the Gospel? Lets go on
    O people of the book, do not transgress the limits of your religion, and do not say about GOD except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was a messenger of GOD, and HIS WORD that HE had sent to Mary, and a revelation from HIM. Therefore, you shall believe in GOD and HIS messengers. You shall not say, "Trinity." You shall refrain from this for your own good. GOD is only one god. Be HE glorified; HE is much too glorious to have a son. To HIM belongs everything in the heavens and everything on earth. GOD suffices as Lord and Master.

    SO IT IS CONFIRMED THAT THE GOSPEL IS THE WORD OF GOD. Lets go on

    Then we revealed to you this book, truthfully, confirming previous BOOK and guarding it. You shall rule among them in accordance with GOD's revelations, and do not follow their wishes if they differ from the truth that came to you. For each of you, we have decreed laws and different rites. Had GOD willed, He could have made you one congregation. But He thus puts you to the test through the revelations He has given each of you. You shall compete in righteousness. To GOD is your final destiny - all of you - then He will inform you of everything you had disputed.

    Can you see that The Quran is to confirmed THE BOOK AND TO GUARD IT. THE BOOK is complete when both The Torah and The Gospel comes together. AQ-04171 confirmed that Pro Jesus is THE WORD OF GOD. This is to say GOD with HIS wisdom "downloaded" The Gospel to Pro Jesus. He will revealed the revelation in stages but he died before he accomplised his mission.

    So the portion of "THE BOOK" is left and that portion is The Torah.

    As for the Gospel you have now with you is incomplete or a fabricated one.

    Peace

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  • Return Of Christ?
    S Sidi

    peace

    many use this verse as proof for the comeback of jesus
    1933 "And peace be upon me the day I was born, and the day I die, and the Day I am resurrected alive."
    19.33.

    but the same expression is used for yahia
    19.15.

    in fact, the return of jesus is linked to the apparition of imam mahdi and dajjal (antechrist)
    it is all story from hadith with nothing in quran, absolutely nothing

    the story is "hadith" adaptation from the "apocalypse part" of bible. "evangelists" hesitate much before deciding to integrate it in the cannonical version.

    peace

    Salamun Alaikum

    Everyone will be resurrected in the Hour.

    We never decreed immortality for anyone before you ; should you die, are they immortal?

    Every person will taste death, after we put you to the test through adversity and prosperity, then to us you ultimately return.

    Peace

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  • The Bible Is Not The Tawrat (Torah) & Injil (Gospel)
    S Sidi

    By Bigmo Today
    Right, but its not what you take we are looking at but what the Koran is saying. Why would the Koran tell people to follow something that does not exist? What you want to take is not relevant to the discussion. The Torah and Gospel and Koran are ecah self sufficient but to understand some aspects of the Koran without the previous scriptures is difficult.

    You are dead wrong, let the Quran answer this

    We have permitted the enemies of every prophet - human and jinn devils - to inspire in each other fancy words, in order to deceive. Had your Lord willed, they would not have done it. You shall disregard them and their fabrications.

    This is to let the minds of those who do not believe in the Hereafter listen to such fabrications, and accept them, and thus expose their real convictions.

    Shall I seek other than GOD as a source of law, when He has revealed to you this book fully detailed? Those who received the scripture recognize that it has been revealed from your Lord, truthfully. You shall not harbor any doubt.

    The word of your Lord is complete, in truth and justice. Nothing shall abrogate His words. He is the Hearer, the Omniscient.

    If you obey the majority of people on earth, they will divert you from the path of GOD. They follow only conjecture; they only guess.

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  • The Bible Is Not The Tawrat (Torah) & Injil (Gospel)
    S Sidi

    By Hoppean - Please give us your exegesis of 541-49, thank you.

    The Law stipulated in the ORIGINAL Torah & ORIGINAL Gospel is still applicable as according to AQ 0543-49 and read the Quranic verses below.

    O you who believe, you shall embrace total submission; do not follow the steps of Satan, for he is your most ardent enemy.

    The only religion approved by GOD is "Submission". Ironically, those who have received the scripture are the ones who dispute this fact, despite the knowledge they have received, due to jealousy. For such rejectors of GOD's revelations, GOD is most strict in reckoning.

    AQ If they argue with you, then say, "I have simply submitted myself to GOD; I and those who follow me." You shall proclaim to those who received the scripture, as well as those Gentiles, "Would you submit?" If they submit, then they have been guided, but if they turn away, your sole mission is to deliver this message. GOD is Seer of all people.

    AQ Surely, those who believe, those who are Jewish, the converts, and the Christians; any of them who (1) believe in GOD and (2) believe in the Last Day, and (3) lead a righteous life, have nothing to fear, nor will they grieve.

    AQ Do not accept anything that you yourself cannot ascertain. You are given the hearing, the sight and the mind in order to examine and verify

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  • The Bible Is Not The Tawrat (Torah) & Injil (Gospel)
    S Sidi

    by MM Doesn't matter. According to 33, it was God who sent them down. Your concern is with the process of how it was sent down, because it was different than revelation of Quran. But if you believe the Quran, you have no real choice to accept the inspiration of Torah and Gospel. What we have today is the same as what was present at the time of Mohammed.

    AQ - 0303 is ABSOLUTE. There is no question about it. My question is when the NT comes into existence?

    What is wrong with your logic?

    Do you have another book to uphold?

    In it, do you find anything you want?

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