To me, it says that if we just roam the world and investigate it, we can reveal how Creation was initiated, i.e. through the method and disciplines of science, we can learn about how Creation was brought forth into existence. This means that there is no need for holy texts or mythology, which religion tends to be all about, in regards to this topic. Agree.. The True God's True Sign is spread all over this universe. The sign which cannot be faked or manipulated by human (usually for political purposes).. God's revelation hasn't ended... it's continuing until today and up to the future... Those who state that God's revelation has ended does that for his individual or group ambition. And to keep his servant and slave loyal to him (or them) they created myths and religion... All falsehood shall be revealed... Seek and you shall find... ASK and it shall be answered.. Those are the 'promise' of the True God.. Now regarding the creation and this universe.. We now know that this universe contains trillion of galaxies, where each galaxies contains trillion of stars.. We now know that Gods or Deities living in 'heaven' above the cloud doesn't exist.. We now know that Human evolved from some other carbon based living being.. We now know that Carbon was created inside the (exploding) star.. We now know that this universe is very old.. 13.8 billion of earth years.. We now know that 99.99% of such time, human didn't even exist.. We now know that this universe might not be the ONLY universe... there can be others.. We now know that this universe seems to be a 'hologram'.. a 'virtual world'... due to the revelation of black hole which sucked up time and space, discrete orbit of electrons and the revelation of quantum teleportation which proves that space (and time) might not be 'real' at all...

Hello @ Bilal, As I said earlier, I am not into philosophy or intellectual speculations. God created Iblees as well, so of course God is the creator of both good and bad which are a dichotomy only for the feeble human mind, but not in relativity-driven objective reality which we cannot perceive, because a human simply doesn't have enough neurons to do that, same as a monkey has not sufficient neurons to play chess! Don't you see that there is God even at the bottom of the devil's heart? Well, that's for sure God is running everything! Hell is not created yet, but disbelievers will go there by their own choice, they are just choosing to do so. Hell is a sort of metaphor, as well as Paradise is, and you cannot force anyone into the Paradise, can you? The whole topic is rather simple, isn't it one is either a believer or a disbeliever! I simply cannot understand why fuss so much about it all?

Peace Zulf, How does the intelligent creative force communicate knowledge about reality to us human beings? Is it only through the books that we have come to label as the religious books? Can there be other ways that teachings are relayed to us? Why have the religious books gained such a strong position among all the wisdom available the world? Is it because these books are easy to follow by sheeple and easy to misuse for power purposes by the clever ones? If the quran is from Allah, does this rule out other teachings as false? Even if the quran would be the only literal text sent down by Allah, does this rule out other teachings as true? Aren't people able to get inspiration from Allah to see the truth, through themselves, or can guidance from Allah only come through a book? N.B. (this is bytheway not about hadith!, which is just a means for some clergy to stay in power, and for others to exhibit their perverted inner selves) All truth is from the god and it doesn't matter who said it. The great reading is only truth as far as how one understands its examples. There are many people who don't understand the examples/allegories given in the great reading correctly and for them it would actually lead them astray and away from the truth. See 226

I like your ID icon, Zulf.

It's what differentiates an atheist who gives to charity and a believer who gives to charity for the sake of God. One is just a service while the other is also an act of worship. One will earn you "credit" at Judgement Day and the other won't. And that's what I admire on a "Good Atheist".. They're doing good deeds for the sake of doing good deeds, and not doing it for 'any credits'... The "sincerity level" (arabic ikhlas) of a "Good Atheist doing good deed" is definitely much higher than "Good Theist doing good deed".. Salam / Peace

when i was growing up, i didn't quite understand why when we had male visitors, my female relatives would go to another room and talk to the male visitors with the walls separating them. when we rode in cars, their was a screen separating the front where the driver/guys sat and the back. that's just how things were. it was a form of 'respect' and 'protection' for women. the principles of the story have been more oppressive. personally, i don't see how the story about the wives of the prophet are relevant to me in my life.

I'll quote this essay from servantofthelight website Written by Abdun Nur J. The lie, an outside force. A being who?s consciousness is all pervasive, it interferes within the lives of all humans and is the root cause of all woes. A powerful beast filled with malevolence, hate, debasement and cruelty, crushing free will and dominating the willing, called many things, viewed as a personification, Satan, the Devil, Beelzebub, Iblis, etc. this is the Christianised view held as true by so many across the world, promoted by the media and held with a far stronger belief than any concept of the truth of Allah. Do not believe in Iblis, Allah tells you. Why would Allah tell you this? The ignorant will tell you he means do not worship Iblis as your God, and so do not believe what he tells you, or some such non-sense. The truth is Iblis is your base desire, you feel thirsty, hungry, this is a base desire, the need to quench your thirst or satisfy your hunger, and no matter your course, ultimately you will have to bow to these desires, or perish. You feel sexual attraction to your partner or the opposite sex in general, this is a base desire, no matter your course, ultimately you will have to bow to your desires, or become sick. You feel fear at the risk of your life, this fear is a base desire, you will bow to this base desire, or you will face death bravely. You feel hate for your enemy, this hate is a base desire, you will bow to your desire, or you will rise above your hate. It is possible to conquer Iblis on many fronts but not on every front, therefore you can never conquer Iblis, and so Iblis will never bow to the will of the family of Adam. You should not believe in Iblis as a personification, as that Iblis is a fiction, a Christianisation of the concept, this is the belief Allah refers to, do not believe in the personification of Iblis. The base is the point you start and build upon, as we are nothing but emotional energy, so we can if we chose, exist purely in base emotional energy, engulfed in the basest of thoughts, feelings and actions; obsessed with personal sexual gratification; or the pointless accumulation of personal wealth; or the attainment of power and control over our fellow human beings for your own personal dominance, it can manifest in many ways. The truth. Iblis is a pervasive force it is integral and essential for every human being, it is the root cause of all woes in the world, it is malevolent, vindictive, hate filled, grows strong and powerful through self debasement, cruelty, fear, it dominates the free will of any who remain wilfully ignorant, a person who refuses truth (non-believer in truth). Its only power beyond any you imbibe within yourself is through the results of the actions you commit. If you devolve into Iblis it is the removal of free will, as it is a driving force of instinctive lusts, free will is derived from the elevation of your emotional state which creates choice and so free will, it is still your will, but shackled to your overwhelming lusts. Islam is based on the values and development of the emotional energies within your essence, it is not a system that is based on change happening externally, it is totally focused on internal change, this is a foundation of Islam.

Grammatically "singular" does not mean that the referred object will become singular. It is plural, singular is . "the houses of fathers of you people". These are two possessive phrases. Both Nouns and Pronoun are definite.

I definitely agree that there are different levels of belief. For me I have always believed in God but not necessarily an afterlife which is something I really struggled with for a long time but I am able to accept it more now. I just look at how the world/nature works and is able to repair itself and believe that there has to be something greater behind it.

Seems it's main tenants and philosophy is generally "Islamic" yet it's fatal flaw is it is godless and lacks the qualities of Righteousness (God Consciousness) in it's actions. From quickly browsing the site itself it seems to promote the absence of God replacing Him with "energy sources" and the idolization of one's own perceived will power akin to the idolatrous concepts of The Secret. Well, I don't see it as a system or set of anything. I just see that there are ways of behaving that are exactly what Allah ordains in the quran... so God has sent wisdom all over the world. I don't think there is a fatal flaw of godlessness, since having faith in God or not is something in the heart of each person... and is not something of a system... except empty words or instructions. Islam can also be godless, irrational and materialistic aswell... if the people who call themselves muslims are like that. It depends on the people. It is possible to recognize goodness in anything... if you know what it looks like. God is indeed great, beyond our comprehension.

the nuclear bombing of hiroshima and nagasaki did change people consciousnesses. But those people are dead today. something like that again definitely will change people consciousnesses today. But I don't want that to happen, I hate living in a bunker. something have to replace Nuclear Holocaust, for "Evolution of Consciousness".

Yes exactly that is the way with our language, but then even with the limited facilities we have, isn't it far easier to think of Allah in the "HERE" (as we try to think beyond space) and in the "NOW" (as we try to think beyond time) and to experience what Allah is--Al-Rahman, Al-Rahim. This, IMHO, is the more correct direction that anyone can practice and prove to him/herself in this finite life, even as we're 'trapped' in the spatial/temporal thinking. Personally I find it good to think of Allah's AWARENESS to be 'here'. This is just a way of thinking. This way our minds can think of Allah as 'here' without attempting to "solve it all". How creation is actually composed... spirit, energy or something else... that I don't have a grasp on and I don't think it matter to have all details worked out... and I guess it's not even possible. As far as time is concerned... all there is is NOW... past and future exist only in our minds, but if one's mind likes to think in terms of time lines, then one can think that Allah is "sitting" outside the time frame (beginning to now to end of times) being able to "look at" all times in history at once. So as far as one self is concerned, one obviously has to think of Allah as NOW, since you yourself is NOW, but Allah is not bound and trapped in time. We can think of Allah through his good qualities and beautiful names... since we cannot grasp "him" otherwise. All the best, Peace!

Whats the most authentic bible? I'm not sure there is one. The Gnostic bible is interesting, it just includes everything and you pick what you want to believe. hmm

Why is it that in a jury, a majority is not enough, you have to have a unanimous vote? Democracy doesn't work because most people don't think for themselves. They follow what they want to follow, they let their emotions lead them. We know from history how easy it is to manipulate the masses (Hitler, Stalin, Bush). Especially in a country as large as the US or India there's no way the people can have true representative democracy. But still, I'd still pick democracy over a monarchy, dictatorship or theocracy. At least in a democracy you have a chance of bringing about change. Democracy isn't perfect, it is susceptible to corruption (I don't think a "true democracy" can last very long, definitely not 200 years), but I wonder if this is really the best we can do. It seems to me that the flaws of democracy are the result of the flaws in human nature. Salaam Power corrupts and no one should get too much power be it lobbyist or dictators or secret societies behind democratic political parties.. peace

Thank you all!

Correct, but there may be a time when the "revelation time" is forgotten P.