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    unknownuser
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    hehehehe

    that would be quite an impulsive group of people on the beach ;D

    i'm not sure if i'd want to see everyone so personally honestly .. it might not always be such a pretty sight ;D

    anyways, the quran verse is the one that sunnis use to say you gotta cover your hair even though there is no word hair in there it just says cover your clevage

    anyways i'll try and find it if someone doesn't beat me to it

    peace brothers

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      unknownuser
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      Peace all,

      There are 4 places in al-qur'aan pertaining to the female chest being covered or hidden

      2431 And tell the believing women to lower their gaze and keep covered their private parts, and that they should not reveal their beauty except what is apparent, and let them put-forth their shawls over their cleavage. And let them not reveal their beauty (zeenat) except to their husbands, or their fathers, or fathers of their husbands, or their sons, or the sons of their husbands, or their brothers, or the sons of their brothers, or the sons of their sisters, or their women, or those committed to them by oath, or the male servants who are without need, or the child who has not yet understood the composition of women. And let them not strike with their feet in a manner that reveals what they are keeping hidden of their beauty. And repent to God, all of you believers, that you may succeed.

      3 places are in the above verse and one place in the following verse

      3359 O prophet, tell your wives, your daughters, and the wives of the believers that they should lengthen upon themselves their outer garments. That is better so that they would not be recognized and harmed. God is Forgiver, Merciful.

      Please also see the following article, especially the part mentioning the female chest

      http//www.quranic.org/quran_article/22/headscarf_and_veiling.htm

      Sorry Boost for beating you to it !! handshake

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        jankren
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        Well, deep in Africa both women and men go bare-chested everywhere ;D. By the way, I think a trivial issue is being addressed in this thread.

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          unknownuser
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          PEace All

          thanks bro Tanveer, you saved my lazy butt hehehehehe

          lol bro Jankren what do you mean ;D

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            AspeRin
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            peace all

            cleavage its wrong,its stupid,its like "hey look! want them?" like in a store rack waiting to get picked up by a costumer... yuck
            quran says to cover the "adornments",i think thats the word,they are not for showing.(spanish translation i have can be inaccurate)

            peace

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              Lost_Philosopher
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              PEace All

              lol bro Jankren what do you mean ;D

              i think he means the African desert tribes people that do not have much or any materials for clothing.

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                Alen
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                Salam.

                I'm so sorry, i made one mistake in the beginning.
                I said that my friend said that women should walka round bare chested.
                That was wrong, i misunderstood.
                What he said was this"Should men also cover their chests?"

                If women are told to cover their chests, should men do the same?
                Because some men do walk around bare chestes.

                I'm sorry for the mistake.

                Peace.

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                  Elke
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                  Peace alen,

                  well, i'd say depends on the circumstances, beach is different from city

                  lk

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                    Peace Alen,

                    To my knowledge there is no command in al-qur'aan for men to cover their chests. The last I checked, men don't have any cleavage in the chest region unless they have some hormonal disorder causing gynecomastia (rare) or they are transsexuals with a boob job !

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                      nerspi
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                      peace

                      so what if they men don't have cleavage, they still have to cover it.
                      tell me this, WHY does it say women have to cover their chest? why?
                      is it because men are attracted to it?
                      in that case men should also cover their chest,
                      because women are attracted to it.

                      I mean, women are not tempted by men's chests that much, right? Or am i wrong.

                      alen, you are wrong. do you think that only women are sexually appealing?

                      since women are attracted to men's chest, they should cover it.

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                        Lost_Philosopher
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                        I think men covering thier chest is more for modesty and protection of young people than anything else. I do not want to see a hairy beer-gutted man on the beach, that would be unpleasant.

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                          jankren
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                          If women are really sexually attracted to men's chests then men should indeed cover their chests too, but do women like men's chests? If yes then that is something new to me.

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                            Tay
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                            Peace Alen, all,

                            We should definitely hear from more women on this. However, from my own inquiries I think it's safe to say that women do not experience the hormonal surge that men do from mere visual stimuli. A woman may say a guy has an attractive chest and then move on. Men, on the other hand, would find it difficult to think of anything else when exposed to women's bare breasts. I think there may be some magical powers involved.

                            Peace,
                            Tay

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                              unknownuser
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                              PEace all

                              I agree with Bro Philo on this

                              its an issue of modesty

                              i agree, Bro Tay, i don't think women are excited thru visual stimuli on its own as much as it is for men, at least that's how i am.

                              but i think it has more to do with being modest rather than sexual arousal. why not leave that door closed so it doesn't lead to anything else. plus our bodies are precious they really shouldn't be exposed to every tom, dick and harry... or harriette in this case ;D

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                                jankren
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                                In my opinion, if all women started to go around bare-chested like men now, in the NEXT generation people won't find breasts sexual anymore. That is exactly what is happening deep in Africa where the tribal people have not been able to afford clothes for generations.

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                                  PEace Bro Jankren

                                  In my opinion, if all women started to go around bare-chested like men now, in the NEXT generation people won't find breasts sexual anymore.

                                  Would you say if we all walked around naked we'd all stop being sexually aroused eventually?

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                                    jankren
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                                    PEace Bro Jankren

                                    Would you say if we all walked around naked we'd all stop being sexually aroused eventually?

                                    Well we the today's generation would absolutely not, but the next generation probably would. Dont you think so?
                                    (By the way this is definitely off-topic so ignore this please D)

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                                      Lost_Philosopher
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                                      PEace Bro Jankren

                                      Would you say if we all walked around naked we'd all stop being sexually aroused eventually?

                                      (Add kinky pun here) rotfl

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                                        unknownuser
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                                        Peace All

                                        all kinky puns aside ;D , i think sexual arousal will still occur because it is a natural instinct. we can't eliminate it. we could only control it thru a healthy channel of expression. i don't think we're going off topic but if we did i'm sorry, bro Alen!

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                                          lilyfleur
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                                          Tay

                                          rotfl

                                          Precisely.

                                          Peace

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