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"MUTTA"(Temporary marriage)

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    siki
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    PM 4-24And the already married from the women, except those who become widowed; God's scripture is over you; and permitted for you is what is beyond this, if you are seeking with your money to be protected and not for illicit sex. As for those whom you have already had joy with them, then you shall give them their wage as an obligation. There is no sin upon you for what you agree to after the obligation. God is Knowledgeable, Wise

    sher ali 4-24 And forbidden to you are married women, except such as your right hands possess. This has Allah enjoined on you. And allowed to you are those beyond that, that you may seek them by means of your property, marrying them properly and not committing fornication. And for the benefit you receive from them, give them their dowries, as fixed, and there is no blame on you what you do by mutual agreement after the fixing of the dowry. Surely Allah is All-Knowing, Wise.

    I went through polygamy threads on brother Tanveer's recommendation and i have come to this horrible conclusion, The above mentioned ayah is pointing toward MUTA, friends! the shias could be right on this issue.
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      TAJ
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      Peace,

      A Shia resource

      http//www.al-islam.org/m_morals/index.htm

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        SarahY
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        I don't see how it is leading to muta?

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          Haroon
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          the Quran does not promote Mutah.

          It simply doesn't

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            siki
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            For sure this verse is not talking of Nikah, as no such Arabic word is used, instead "istumtutum" is used here.
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              Haroon
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              what are your proposing this verse talks about?

              mutah is not a concept supported by the Quran.

              Do you believe in mutah?

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                siki
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                Do you believe in mutah?

                i never did,,, but it seems as if it is supported by the BOOK;
                has this topic ever been debated/thrashed in this forum?
                siki

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                  Haroon
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                  it's been discussed and i'm sure it's clear from both the book and from articles on this website discussing what the Quran has to say about marriage, relationships and sex that mu'tah is not allowed.

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                    Al-Quraishi
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                    the Quran does not promote Mutah.

                    It simply doesn't

                    Ameen

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                      SwedenMajidah
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                      Salam,

                      Lol don't say " Ameen" it's not a muslim way rather a christian way.

                      Majidah

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                        SwedenMajidah
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                        Salam,

                        Here is more on Mutah, discussed before in the forum.

                        http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=8156.0

                        Peace
                        Majidah

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                          Peace bro Sikandar,

                          I think you are having a misunderstanding of 424 and I will try to clear it.

                          According to al-qur'aan, the steps in marriage seem to be as follows

                          1. Nakah - marriage in front of witnesses
                          2. Setting of dowry - done at nakah or later but before consummation (see 2236-237)
                          3. Consummation of marriage
                          4. Payment of dowry

                          424 talks about the payment of dowry after the consummation of marriage (steps 3 and 4). The "istamta3tum" is the consummation of marriage. This is made clear by the next verse 425 which begins

                          425 "And whoever of you cannot afford to marry (yanki7a) the "muhsanat" believers............,

                          which makes it clear that the "istamta3tum" is after "nakah". The "muhsanat" believers in 425 refers to the "ma malakat aymanukum" out of "al-muhsanatu min al-nnisa" mentioned in 424, i.e. those women self protected by oath of engagement.

                          Thus 424 implies regular marriage/"nakah", and there is no indication whatsoever of temporary marriage.

                          Hope that helps.

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                            samia, maxq, muqran, nadia, warner, yasin ,ayman, or any body , you are welcome to join in, or interested in following this , please come to polygamy thread,

                            http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=13534.30
                            siki

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                              Al-Quraishi
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                              Salam,

                              Lol don't say " Ameen" it's not a muslim way rather a christian way.

                              Majidah

                              Salam,

                              Hmmm, I know its origins, I use it as an easy way to confer acceptance with other posters.

                              However I was thinking over this issue of whether I should continue to use it as a matter of fact, perhaps I'll say 'Agreed' instead next time! lol

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                                SwedenMajidah
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                                salam,

                                AGREED is a much better word .

                                Maria

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                                  palestina
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                                  I was going to start a new thread - but just thought id revive this once which didnt really get going so much.....

                                  Where did the idea of mutta/miysar/urfi marriage come from?? I dont see anything in the quran that can lead me to believe they are allowed?

                                  Are these different terms for the same thing or do they differ?

                                  I was reading this book online - heard about it from a link on an old thread on the board
                                  http//www.alousra.com/LeapEng_5.htm
                                  its by sunnis and shias working towards advocating ways for young people to get to know each other - their ideas on this temporary contract are interesting and strange (to me - since i know very little about this topic to start with)
                                  However they do rely heavily on hadiths!

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                                    Mazhar
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                                    For the benefit of Urdu speaking/understanding friends;

                                    http//haqeeqat.org.pk/paker/04/slides/1.html

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