Why Won't Palestinian Govt Recognize Israel?
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Salam,
Personally, I don`t understand why there is a Palestinain government in the first place! I mean, your country is under occupation, your people are being tortured, murdered, displaced, and here are the Palestinans talking about who will be Prime Minister who will be President what will the unity government do blah blah blah...
Just pick-up weapons and fight until the zionist occupation is ended...Then you can sort out your government and its structure.
I believe Palestinains need to learn from the model of the Iraqi Resistance. Keep your military structures loose and secret, keep your leadership underground, and fight with no compromise and no negotiation until the occupation and its puppets are driven out or surrender.
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Peace to all,
Jankren, why you siding with the oppressor and aggressors arguments, you know what the palestinians say, they will recognize Israel exactly one second after Israel recognizes Palestine, its the Israelis that are the root of the problem not Palestinians, everything else is irrelevent when justice is on your side.
Kurt
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The Trap of Recognizing Israel
by Jonathan Cook
The problem facing the Palestinian leadership, as they strive to bring the millions living in the occupied territories some small relief from their collective suffering, reduces to a matter of a few words. Like a naughty child who has only to say "sorry" to be released from his room, the Hamas government need only say "We recognize Israel" and supposedly aid and international goodwill will wash over the West Bank and Gaza.That, at least, was the gist of Israeli prime minister Ehud Olmert's recent speech during a visit to the Negev, when he suggested that his country's hand was stretched out across the sands towards the starving masses of Gaza ? if only Hamas would repent. "recognize us and we are ready to talk about peace" was the implication.
Certainly the Palestinian people have been viciously punished for making their democratic choice early this year to elect a Hamas government that Israel and the Western powers disapprove of
an economic blockade has been imposed, starving the Palestinian Authority of income to pay for services and remunerate its large workforce;
millions of dollars in tax monies owed to the Palestinians have been illegally withheld by Israel, exacerbating the humanitarian crisis;
a physical blockade of Gaza enforced by Israel has prevented the Palestinians from exporting their produce, mostly perishable crops, and from importing essentials like food and medicine;
Israeli military strikes have damaged Gaza's vital infrastructure, including the supply of electricity and water, as well as randomly killing its inhabitants;
and thousands of families are being torn apart as Israel uses the pretext of its row with Hamas to stop renewing the visas of Palestinian foreign passport holders.
The magic words "We recognize you" could end all this suffering. So why did their prime minister, Ismail Haniyeh, vow last week never to utter them? Is Hamas so filled with hatred and loathing for Israel as a Jewish state that it cannot make such a simple statement of good intent?
It is easy to forget that, though conditions have dramatically deteriorated of late, the Palestinians' problems did not start with the election of Hamas. Israel's occupation is four decades old, and no Palestinian leader has ever been able to extract from Israel a promise of real statehood in all of the occupied territories not the mukhtars, the largely compliant local leaders, who for decades were the only representatives allowed to speak on behalf of the Palestinians after the national leadership was expelled; not the Palestinian Authority under the secular leadership of Yasser Arafat, who returned to the occupied territories in the mid-1990s after the PLO had recognized Israel; not the leadership of his successor, Mahmoud Abbas, the "moderate" who first called for an end to the armed intifada; and now not the leaders of Hamas, even though they have repeatedly called for a long-term truce (hudna) as the first step in building confidence.
Similarly, few Palestinians doubt that Israel will continue to entrench the occupation ? just as it did during the supposed peacemaking years of Oslo, when the number of Jewish settlers doubled in the occupied territories ? even if Hamas is ousted and a government of national unity, of technocrats or even of Fatah takes its place.
There is far more at stake for Israel in winning this little concession from Hamas than most observers appreciate. A statement saying that Hamas recognized Israel would do much more than meet Israel's precondition for talks; it would mean that Hamas had walked into the same trap that was set earlier for Arafat and Fatah. That trap is designed to ensure that any peaceful solution to the conflict is impossible.
It achieves this end in two ways.
First, as has already been understood, at least by those paying attention, Hamas' recognition of Israel's "right to exist" would effectively signify that the Palestinian government was publicly abandoning its own goal of struggling to create a viable Palestinian state.
That is because Israel refuses to demarcate its own future borders, leaving it an open question what it considers to be the extent of "its existence" it is demanding Hamas recognize. We do know that no one in the Israeli leadership is talking about a return to Israel's borders that existed before the 1967 war, or probably anything close to it.
Without a return to those pre-1967 borders (plus a substantial injection of goodwill from Israel in ensuring unhindered passage between Gaza and the West Bank) no possibility exists of a viable Palestinian state ever emerging.
And no goodwill, of course, will be forthcoming. Every Israeli leader has refused to recognize the Palestinians, first as a people and now as a nation. And in the West's typically hypocritical fashion when dealing with the Palestinians, no one has ever suggested that Israel commit to such recognition.
In fact, Israeli governments have glorified in their refusal to extend the same recognition to the Palestinians that they demand from them. Famously Golda Meir, a Labor prime minister, said that the Palestinians did not exist, adding in 1971 that Israel's "borders are determined by where Jews live, not where there is a line on a map." At the same time she ordered that the Green Line, Israel's border until the 1967 war, be erased from all official maps.
That legacy hit the headlines last week when the dovish education minister, Yuli Tamir, caused a storm by issuing a directive that the Green Line should be reintroduced in Israeli schoolbooks. There were widespread protests against her "extreme leftist ideology" from politicians and rabbis.
According to Israeli educators, the chances of textbooks showing the Green Line again ? or dropping references to "Judea and Samaria," the Biblical names for the West Bank, or including Arab towns on maps of Israel ? are close to nil. The private publishers who print the textbooks would refuse to incur the extra costs of reprinting the maps, said Prof Yoram Bar-Gal, head of geography at Haifa University.
Sensitive to the damage that the row might do to Israel's international image, and aware that Tamir's directive is never likely to be implemented, Olmert agreed in principle to the change. "There is nothing wrong with marking the Green Line," he said. But, in a statement that made his agreement entirely hollow, he added "But there is an obligation to emphasize that the government's position and public consensus rule out returning to the 1967 lines."
The second element to the trap is far less well understood. It explains the strange formulation of words Israel uses in making its demand of Hamas. Israel does not ask it simply to "recognize Israel," but to "recognize Israel's right to exist." The difference is not a just matter of semantics.
The concept of a state having any rights is not only strange but alien to international law. People have rights, not states. And that is precisely the point when Israel demands that its "right to exist" be recognized, the subtext is that we are not speaking of recognition of Israel as a normal nation state but as the state of a specific people, the Jews.
In demanding recognition of its right to exist, Israel is ensuring that the Palestinians agree to Israel's character being set in stone as an exclusivist Jewish state, one that privileges the rights of Jews over all other ethnic, religious and national groups inside the same territory. The question of what such a state entails is largely glossed over both by Israel and the West.
For most observers, it means simply that Israel must refuse to allow the return of the millions of Palestinians languishing in refugee camps throughout the region, whose former homes in Israel have now been appropriated for the benefit of Jews. Were they allowed to come back, Israel's Jewish majority would be eroded overnight and it could no longer claim to be a Jewish state, except in the same sense that apartheid South Africa was a white state.
This conclusion is apparently accepted by Romano Prodi, Italy's prime minister, after a round of lobbying in European capitals from Israel's telegenic foreign minister, Tzipi Livni. According to the Jerusalem Post, Prodi is saying in private that Israel should receive guarantees from the Palestinians that its Jewish character will never be in doubt.
Israeli officials are cheering what they believe is the first crack in Europe's support for international law and the rights of the refugees. "It's important to get everyone on the same page on this one," an official told the Post.
But in truth the consequences of the Palestinian leadership recognising Israel as a Jewish state run far deeper than the question of the future of the Palestinian refugees. In my book Blood and Religion, I set out these harsh consequences both for the Palestinians in the occupied territories and for the million or so Palestinians who live inside Israel as citizens, supposedly with the same rights as Jewish citizens.
My argument is that this need to maintain Israel's Jewish character at all costs is actually the engine of its conflict with the Palestinians. No solution is possible as long as Israel insists on privileging citizenship for Jews above other groups, and on distorting the region's territorial and demographic realities to ensure that the numbers continue to weigh in the Jews' favor.
Although ultimately the return of the refugees poses the biggest threat to Israel's "existence," Israel has a far more pressing demographic concern the refusal by the Palestinians living in the West Bank to leave the parts of that territory Israel covets (and which it knows by the Biblical names of Judea and Samaria).
Within a decade, the Palestinians in the occupied territories and the million Palestinian citizens living inside Israel will outnumber Jews, both those living in Israel and the settlers in the West Bank.
That was one of the chief reasons for the "disengagement" from Gaza Israel could claim that, even though it is still occupying the small piece of land militarily, it was no longer responsible for the population there. By withdrawing a few thousand settlers from the Strip, 1.4 million Gazans were instantly wiped from the demographic score sheet.
But though the loss of Gaza has postponed for a few years the threat of a Palestinian majority in the expanded state Israel desires, it has not magically guaranteed Israel's continuing existence as a Jewish state. That is because Israel's Palestinian citizens, though a minority comprising no more than fifth of Israel's population, can potentially bring the whole house of cards tumbling down.
For the past decade they have been demanding that Israel be reformed from a Jewish state, which systematically discriminates against them and denies their Palestinian identity, into a "state of all its citizens," a liberal democracy that would give all citizens, Jews and Palestinians, equal rights.
Israel has characterized the demand for a state of all its citizens as subversion and treason, realizing that, were the Jewish state to become a liberal democracy, Palestinian citizens could justifiably demand
the right to marry Palestinians from the occupied territories and from the Diaspora, winning them Israeli citizenship ? "a right of return through the backdoor" as officials call it.
the right to bring Palestinian relatives in exile back to Israel under a Right of Return program that would be a pale shadow of the existing Law of Return that guarantees any Jew anywhere in the world the automatic right to Israeli citizenship.
To prevent the first threat, Israel passed a flagrantly racist law in 2003 that makes it all but impossible for Palestinians with Israeli citizenship to bring a Palestinian spouse to Israel. For the time being, such couples have little choice but to seek asylum abroad, if other countries will give them refuge.
But like the Gaza disengagement, this piece of legislation is a delaying tactic rather than a solution to the problem of Israel's "existence." So behind the scenes Israel has been formulating ideas that taken together would remove large segments of Israel's Palestinian population from its borders and strip any remaining "citizens" of their political rights ? unless they swear loyalty to a "Jewish and democratic state" and thereby renounce their demand that Israel reform itself into a liberal democracy.
This is the bottom line for a Jewish state, just as it was for a white apartheid South Africa if we are to survive, then we must be able to do whatever it takes to keep ourselves in power, even if it means systematically violating the human rights of all those we rule over and who do not belong to our group.
Ultimately, the consequences of Israel being allowed to remain a Jewish state will be felt by all of us, wherever we live ? and not only because of the fallout from the continuing and growing anger in the Arab and Muslim worlds at the double standards applied by the West to the conflict between Israel and the Palestinians.
Given Israel's view that its most pressing interest is not peace or regional accommodation with its neighbors but the need to ensure a Jewish majority at all costs to protect its "existence," Israel is likely to act in ways that endanger regional and global stability.
A small taste of that was suggested in the role played by Israel's supporters in Washington in making the case for the invasion of Iraq, and this summer in Israel's assault on Lebanon. But it is most evident in its drumbeat of war against Iran.
Israel has been leading the attempts to characterize the Iranian regime as profoundly anti-Semitic, and its presumed ambitions for nuclear weapons as directed by the sole goal of wanting to "wipe Israel off the map" ? a calculatedly mischievous mistranslation of Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's speech.
Most observers have assumed that Israel is genuinely concerned for its safety from nuclear attack, however implausible the idea that even the most fanatical Muslim regime would, unprovoked, launch nuclear missiles against a small area of land that contains some of Islam's holiest sites, in Jerusalem.
But in truth there is another reason why Israel is concerned about a nuclear-armed Iran that has nothing to do with conventional ideas about safety.
Last month, Ephraim Sneh, one of Israel's most distinguished generals and now Olmert's deputy defense minister, revealed that the government's primary concern was not the threat posed by Ahmadinejad firing nuclear missiles at Israel but the effect of Iran's possession of such weapons on Jews who expect Israel to have a monopoly on the nuclear threat.
If Iran got such weapons, "Most Israelis would prefer not to live here; most Jews would prefer not to come here with families, and Israelis who can live abroad will ... I am afraid Ahmadinejad will be able to kill the Zionist dream without pushing a button. That's why we must prevent this regime from obtaining nuclear capability at all costs."
In other words, the Israeli government is considering either its own preemptive strike on Iran or encouraging the United States to undertake such an attack ? despite the terrible consequences for global security ? simply because a nuclear-armed Iran might make Israel a less attractive place for Jews to live, lead to increased emigration and tip the demographic balance in the Palestinians' favor.
Regional and possibly global war may be triggered simply to ensure that Israel's "existence" as a state that offers exclusive privileges to Jews continues.
For all our sakes, we must hope that the Palestinians and their Hamas government continue refusing to "recognize Israel's right to exist."
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I think we should put the same situation in a different place. Lets say with all the Mexicans in the southwestern part of America the U.N. decides to make a new nation out of Texas, New Mexico, Arizona (AZ rules!), and South California and calls it North Mexico. What is the U.S. gonna say about it? They would obviously oppose it, I would probably be one of the first blowing stuff up. I hope that we find a solution is found soon, maybe jihad will become uncool to Palestinian kids?
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I say just give them what they want such as recognition of Israel's existence...
Err... Jankren, you want the Palestinians to give Israel what it already has? Shouldn't your sentence be the other way round? Or is there a country called 'Palestine' on a map you're looking at. ??? -
The Palestinians have been fighting for their independence through violent means for decades and every year there are way more Palestinians dead than Israelis. So, I think it is time to use different alternative. If by giving in the Palestinians could finally get at least a little piece of land where they can live peacefully and control their own country what is wrong with that?
It is easy for us here to 'cheer' for the Palestinians to keep on fighting to the death for their freedom. It reminds me of those mullahs who keep praising the bravery of suicide bombers while at the same time all they can do is hiding from the battlefield and saving their own lives.
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Peace Jankren,
The Palestinians have been fighting for their independence through violent means for decades
Meaning from when exactly... and before that?.. before they started fighting?If by giving in the Palestinians could finally get at least a little piece of land where they can live peacefully and control their own country what is wrong with that?
Who says that's going to happen?... it didnt happen before!It is easy for us here to 'cheer' for the Palestinians to keep on fighting to the death for their freedom. It reminds me of those mullahs who keep praising the bravery of suicide bombers while at the same time all they can do is hiding from the battlefield and saving their own lives.
There is no cheering, or jeering for that matter. They are doing what they can do, if they had helicopter gunships and tanks, believe me they would use them. They have been forced into this unimaginable, dehumanizing desperation... and no, it's not by the "mullahs".I suggest you look into what's really been happening to the palestinians, jankren, and try not to make judgements based on news you see or read on mainstream (corporate) media.
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I think we should notice this, Israel is a U.N. mad nation, its not leaving anytime soon. No matter how much protest to its existence, peacefully or not, the U.N. is not willing to have the shame in going back on its decision to make the nation. So if even if you kick Israel out with a large palestinian army, its not like the U.N. wont send a better army to take it back. What should we do if we can get rid of Israel? One way or another, liking it or not, both of these nations will have to recognize each other sooner or later.
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Just pick-up weapons and fight until the zionist occupation is ended...Then you can sort out your government and its structure.
I believe Palestinains need to learn from the model of the Iraqi Resistance. Keep your military structures loose and secret, keep your leadership underground, and fight with no compromise and no negotiation until the occupation and its puppets are driven out or surrender.
They have been doing this for 50 f... years. And what have they gained? NADA.
Israel's main argument for their oppression is that they are the only democratic country in the region have to deal with violent neighberhood.
I wonder if Palestinians had ever had a plan, a thought at least about changing the course of action?
How about trying for a year or two,since abviously there is nothing to be lost, peacful methods of achieving the goal.
If Israel is so democratic, the the only way to beat them is in their own game - be a bigger democrat.
I guess this is some kind of syndrom for muslim countries - straight to the wall, with their head! -
peace all,
I think we should notice this, Israel is a U.N. mad nation, its not leaving anytime soon. No matter how much protest to its existence, peacefully or not, the U.N. is not willing to have the shame in going back on its decision to make the nation. So if even if you kick Israel out with a large palestinian army, its not like the U.N. wont send a better army to take it back. What should we do if we can get rid of Israel? One way or another, liking it or not, both of these nations will have to recognize each other sooner or later.
the UN was made reduntant years ago imo! look how many resolutions is passes against israel which go ignored! and look how many are simply vetoed by the USA before israel even has a chance to ignore them! a simple google search will show you because the list would be too huge to post here!
They have been doing this for 50 f... years. And what have they gained? NADA.
Israel's main argument for their oppression is that they are the only democratic country in the region have to deal with violent neighberhood.
I wonder if Palestinians had ever had a plan, a thought at least about changing the course of action?
How about trying for a year or two,since abviously there is nothing to be lost, peacful methods of achieving the goal.
If Israel is so democratic, the the only way to beat them is in their own game - be a bigger democrat.
I guess this is some kind of syndrom for muslim countries - straight to the wall, with their head!as for israel being a democracy - well the only reason it can continue being a democracy is by depriving palestinians their rights - an israeli friend explained this to me - they cant be a democracy and give palestinians equal rights because then they would no longer be in power.
and as for a peaceful method - every time palestinians have agreed to a cease fire, israel breaks it and then twists the truth to make out like they are the peaceful ones - fact is that israel needs to fight with the palestinian people because they are a common enemy which unite israeli society - without it, israeli society will implode on itself because there is no unity within the country apart from being united against the palestinians.and how can there ever be peace with no justice?? palestinians in the palestinian territories are living in horrific conditions
and palestinians who are israeli citizen are treated as second class citizens in israelnow i dont agree with violence but i would never condemn palestinians for their resistance because they know no other way.... and i think if i had lived through the same stuff i would be just the same. who are we to judge living our comfy lives, spectators to the war from the security of our living rooms?!!?
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now i dont agree with violence but i would never condemn palestinians for their resistance because they know no other way.... and i think if i had lived through the same stuff i would be just the same. who are we to judge living our comfy lives, spectators to the war from the security of our living rooms?!!?
And who are to judge living our comfy lives, telling them Go get killed! Its good for you!
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Say one kills your children and comes back in two years and asks for forgivness. And you forgive him. And then after that, the same guy kills your wife/girlfriend and comes back after another two years and asks for forgivness. And the same stupidity will continue. Why do YOU think that the Palestinians will never accept peace? Because they had their homeland taken, thier citizens killed, and so on and it's still happening today. Everytime they accept peace, or a discussion to diplomacy, Israel then bombs some village in Gaza just to provoke Palestine which will make the Palestinians refuse any diplomatic talks and get more outraged. Israel can not simply kill people and just get away with it. It doesn't work that way. It's already enough that Hitler slaughtered 6m Jews during WW2. Why do the Israelies keep continuing committing similiar stupidity(i.e killing, destroying, etc) like Shitler? Everyday, I get to read about how Israel has shot/bombed atleast one child or a teen. Just recently Israel claimed to have killed a "terrorist", although the witnesses say that he was unarmed. His name was Mohammad Mubarak, 19, from Jalazun refugee camp and said he was working as a labourer on the road connecting Ramallah and Nablus, as part of a USAID-funded project.
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It reminds me of this..
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it's on their property....
no but all nations have fallen and new nations have risen they won't admit their fall and they others won't admitt their conquer...
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I seriously do not really know the reason why Palestinian Govt insists on refusing to recognize the existence of Israel? I think it is ridiculous to maintain such a stance because Israel is obviously not going to vanish anytime soon and in the meantime Palestinians will only keep getting butchered for what I think an unnecessary stubborness.
I say just give them what they want such as recognition of Israel's existence and complete stop of violent resistance and then we can see what the other side of the bargain has to offer. If they still come up with excuses to occupy the Palestinian lands then public opinion would probably turn against them and I say let Iran sends their Mehdi Army or whatever into Israel so waves after waves of suicide bombers would kick every single Israeli into the dead sea.
Peace,
because israel demands they recognize the "jewish" state of israel, not the state of israel
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because israel demands they recognize the "jewish" state of israel, not the state of israel
This is just a useful soundbite. During the Hamas administration (the one before Abbas decided not to hold an election for his position he thought he was going to lose), Hamas actually accepted that Israel is a state, a Jewish state. Since then, Abbas has made similar comments in his attempt to get an accord with Israel to guarantee Israeli recognition of a Palestinian state.
The phrase is only used now to delay the process the Palestinians have already (even Hamas) accepted years ago, its just an excuse to demonise the Palestinians to claim its their fault the peace process is delayed. In truth its delayed because Israel refuses to stop settlements (I don't think Abbas is even fighting to remove the ones already there anymore), control over Palestinian airspace and coast off the Gaza strip, and of course final settlement on the position of East Jerusalem. I don't believe Abbas is even fighting the requirement by Israel to have no Palestinian military force (army, navy, airforce).
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Israel- "Please give us 3 billion a year."
US- "No problem Israel."Israel-" Send us weapons whenever we ask."
US- "Okay Israel, you got it!"Israel- "Send us more money please!"
US- "Sure Israel, whatever you say."Israel- "Support us at the UN every time, even if you know our policies are wrong."
US- "Will not be a problem Israel!"US- "Hey Israel, can you please do something for us? Please take these peace talks a little more seriously. We're really trying our best."
Israel- "ANTI-SEMITE!!!1!"
Why should a Jewish homeland exist anyway? It has NO right to exist, just like a Qur'anist homeland doesn't have any right to exist. The Israelies(AKA EUROPEANS KHAZAR with a big Zlatan nose) believe that Israel should be for the Jews, and they have therefor replaced the natives of the land. They should go back to primitive countries like Denmark instead and spread their disease there, afterall those are the countries were most of them orginated from, no? As a European(Who was born & grew up in Sk?ne), I'm willing to give away worthless countries like Denmark just to see Palestine free.
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Personally, I'm 100% against a Jewish homeland(And this goes to any other religious stupid homeland whether it be the calipha or khalistan) trying to establish itself on Palestinian land. There is NOTHING anti-semitic about this like silly Israel claims. It's a fact that no religious people have the right to take over a nation. I will never recognize Israel as a "Jewish state". And no, it's not because I hate Jews. Infact my grandfather was a yahoodi (Jew), and even HE would have laughed at Israel for real. Brilliant people like Stephen Hawkings will always stand with Palestine. Israel can have all the religious nutjobs supporting it, but that will not help it. Until every Islamist is gone from the Middle-East, there will be a Palestine. Israel will never dare to use any violence against the Palestinians(Or It's neighboors) ever again, otherwhise the Arab world will hunt down Israel for good.
In the future, I hope I can visit a beautiful jewish synagogue were I can meet a lot of nice Jewish people(I've always wanted to meet the Syrian Jews in New York - I hear that the Jews there are very nice), and I will always oppose a religious homeland whoever that might come from. I oppose a caliphate and therefor I oppose Israel as well.
Many Jews oppose Zionism and Israel too. Why is Israel such a cowardly country thinking that only Palestine opposes it? LOL
This is just a useful soundbite. During the Hamas administration (the one before Abbas decided not to hold an election for his position he thought he was going to lose), Hamas actually accepted that Israel is a state, a Jewish state. Since then, Abbas has made similar comments in his attempt to get an accord with Israel to guarantee Israeli recognition of a Palestinian state.
This is why people like Ron paul believes that Hamas was started by Israel.
The phrase is only used now to delay the process the Palestinians have already (even Hamas) accepted years ago, its just an excuse to demonise the Palestinians to claim its their fault the peace process is delayed. In truth its delayed because Israel refuses to stop settlements (I don't think Abbas is even fighting to remove the ones already there anymore), control over Palestinian airspace and coast off the Gaza strip, and of course final settlement on the position of East Jerusalem. I don't believe Abbas is even fighting the requirement by Israel to have no Palestinian military force (army, navy, airforce).
Abbas is a corrupt moron.
To me, Palestine is more like Yugoslavia. A corrupt place, a terrible government, a lot of people are running around without jobs, poor education, no true army anymore, etc. Palestine has become the new Bosna. A lot of Christian Palestinians have left the West-Bank and have been heading towards Lebanon instead just because they couldn't stand living under occoupation since it didin't attract a lot of tourists to Bettlehem apparently.
and I say let Iran sends their Mehdi Army or whatever into Israel so waves after waves of suicide bombers would kick every single Israeli into the dead sea.
Iran has no interest of attacking Israel(Iran could easily destroy Israel, seeing the fact that Iran is soon going to be handed the S-300s by Russia, but the UN has put sanctions on Russia for trying to give Iran the S-300s, as Israel was whining about how powerful Iran would have become LOL). Infact Iran only wants to build more nuclear reactors, but Israel is preventing it because Israel does not want Iran to advance and become as strong as Persia once was. It's obvious to me that Israel is the one trying to pick a fight with Iran by trying to assassine its nuclear scientists, and sadly the Arab world is trying to start a sectarian war against Iran when Iran has never been the enemy of the Arab world and when infact Israel is the disease in the Middle-East. I hope one day that Abdullah burns in hell for good, and that Saudi-Arabia does not have an idiotic leader like that.
And FYI, if Iran really wanted to attack Israel, they wouldn't send any suicide bombers or any "Mehdi army" as silly people claim. It's Israel that has 1251 super tanks with special ability to look like an old woman (armour 9, damage 11) and 1 World's Greatest terrorist (ever) named O'Mama Ladin Schlomo Recycle Bin and 1 Israeli Stealth Bomber forces (Used during the Star Wars and Zalgiris Battle piloted by Jurgis Kirys). Israel also has its own artifical intelligence claims itself to be a bird and undertake long distance ammual migration to the South. And not to mention their 15000 Light infantry.
It's sad that the Arab world is controlled by religious wahabbi pro-Israeli nutjobs. If I ever were the leader of the Arab world, I'd take down Israel in less than a second. It's not so hard, all you need to do is to get rid of the Islamists and the rest of the religious nutjobs. I will make sure that any sheikh who calls for jihad on Iran or any other country I respect, I wll get rid of those sheikhs and be much worse than God to them. All sheikhs deserve to thrown out from their seats. Gotta keep Arabia clean. It's better to start using the oil-money on science than religion IMO. The Saudi-regime is spending lots of its oil-money/taxes on European hookers, mosques in Europe(What a waiste as Europe only benefits from this), weapon factory, etc. meanwhile about 70% Saudis in Saudi-Arabia don't have a home.
I'd personally bring back many brilliant people of Arab descent in America(People like Jerry Seinfeld, Mitch Daniels, Fawwaz T.Ulaby, Robert Kelly Slatter, Paul Anka, Mona Simpson, Teri Hatcher, Peter Lupus, Mostafa El-Sayed, Farouk El-Baz, Elias James Corey, Taher Elgamal, Michel T. Halbouty, Pat Danner, Wentworth Miller, Vic Tayback etc), and then there were many others like Steve Jobs, Bob Marely, Rosemary Barkett, Tige Andrews, and so on who are not alive anymore. I'd like these people back. Israel can have all the religious nutjobs and sheikhs. Or actually, they can go to Denmark instead were they belong.
Many Arabs still love Irans history, culture and people (Specialy the levantines-Arabs). Don't let Abdullah Al-Kalb fool them. Like Gadaffi once said, if it were not for the Arabs in the gulf, there would not be an America or even Israel today. https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYY_ws6axKo and neither will there be a war in Iran either.
Shalom!
