A topic for those who study Classical Arabic

nadeem

Peace Samia,

Thanks for a great lesson bravo

What do you mean by an adjective linked to non accusative words?

I can't remember.... hmm
Memory isn't what it used be anymore...

Another one

According to the answer sheets is supposed to be in the genitive. I don't agree. What's the truth?

Just to check It does mean Where did you hear god's verses? - right?

Nadeem

Samia

Salaam Nadeem

Another one

According to the answer sheets is supposed to be in the genitive. I don't agree. What's the truth?

Here is why

is a sound feminine plural. This plural does not take the accusative sign or nunnation. So, we do not say but for both the accusative and the genetive.

You do not revise your lessons >(

Just to check It does mean Where did you hear god's verses? - right?

Yes, that's correct bravo

nadeem

I love you!!!! group

You do not revise your lessons

I do, I do, I do.. but not all of it, unfortunately....

Mental note Sound feminine plurals take genitive case ending both when in genitive and when in accusative.

Nadeem

unknownuser

This is really a good start to learn Arabic. God bless.

Today while searching for Arabic lessons I found an amazing website run by a sister who is an etymologist. You may find it interesting http//arabicgems.wordpress.com

Peace all, Hamsa

nadeem

Peace RasulHamsa,

Thanks so much for that link! It's really good!

I found a very useful book of grammar from that site
http//www.mtholyoke.edu/courses/mjiyad/Arabic%20Grammar%20Book.doc

Nadeem

Samia

I went through the book up to point 25. It is a good and concise one. Simple and to the point. But there are two points I would like to comment on (so far)

15 Kuwait is not masculine, Yemen is .

24 The Diptotes is not a category of proper names. Some proper names are diptotes. Proper names do not take the definite article anyway (unless it is already part of the name ), otherwise diptotes do take the definite article. When they do, (or when they are the second part of idafa construction) they take the genetive sign. Example I went to far away offices; I went to the far away offices.(plurals of the pattern mafaa3il are a category of diptotes).

I will check it from time to time and post my comments, God help me, so that you can safely take what it gives.

nadeem

You are a real giver, Samia! Thanks!

I look forward to your comments...

Kashif

Salam All,

I will share my today arabic lecture with you guys, which hopfully answer some of Nadeem questions

Any noun (&#1605 in arabic when used in a sentence is considered following

Murfoo (&#1593 when a noun is subject
Munsoob (&#1576 when a noun is used as an object without Harf-Jar
Majroor (&#1585 when a noun is used after Harf-Jar or when it is Mudaf-alehi ( &#1616

For complete explanation and examples please see my attachment.
Now for answering following question"

Peace everyone,

My book says that the above means "For the believers of the earth". However, I don't see why this couldn't also mean "For the two believers of the earth".

Can someone explain?

I don't know if anyone answer it but here is my take

is 1) because it followed by Harf-Jar (Lam/for)
2) This is also

Now

Two Believers
Believers

So now when a plural noun is used as a Mudaff( ) then Noon at the end of the noun is dropped when joined with the word the earth (&#1590 in the above case

here is the answer then

For two believers of the earth
For believers of the earth

Note check out the Harka on the Noon carefully which will determine Two vs plural.

unknownuser

Peace sis Samia,

Would you please clarify the literal translation of the following
41

Created you from one self(Nafs) and created from it/him/her its/his/her spouse

I have read all three translations and I think "Ha" refer to her or it but not him. Am I right?

Thanks, Hamsa

Samia

Salaam Hamsa

Yes, you're right. It is "it", referring to soul/self/nafs. I would also say "pair" rather than "spouse".

unknownuser

Thanks sis,

one more question please

can we refer to one human being in the verse and in general.

And also can we refer to God not in any verse ofcourse but in general.

Peace, Hamsa

Samia

To my understanding, it does not refer to any number of people, nor to one person or entity. I think the emphasis is on quality rather than quantity.

Kashif

I am working on a Arabic Nouns mapping chart, which I will share you with you guys. Please note this is the work in progress and I planned to add examples/explanation for each category, Inshallah. Also, any feedback at this point would be very valuable for me.

Enjoy.

http//i189.photobucket.com/albums/z29/shazaduh/ArabicNounflowchart.jpg

unknownuser

To my understanding, it does not refer to any number of people, nor to one person or entity. I think the emphasis is on quality rather than quantity.

Peace sis Samia,

Although I couldn't really get it but I also do not feel asking again and again, I know it involves much study and explanation. But anyways thanks for your time. I am blessed with some bros and sis on this forum and hopefully will learn a lot from all of you inshaAllah.

Peace, Hamsa

Samia

Salaam Kashif

Just a few typos
written as
(Or perhaps you do not have this letter on your keyboard? I noticed its absence also in your previous message in the word , written as ) .
Also and I think , written as and respectively.

Kashif

Thank you sister Samia pointing out those typos, you are right I could not find Wow(with hamza on top) on my windows arabic keyboard. but I can definitely fixed them with other arabic editor I am developing. Inshallah I will fix those errors and update them.

lunarious

Fantastic!
You don't understand what i exactly mean, but you keep on with.

Samia

Thank you sister Samia pointing out those typos, you are right I could not find Wow(with hamza on top) on my windows arabic keyboard. but I can definitely fixed them with other arabic editor I am developing. Inshallah I will fix those errors and update them.

Try the key "c".

nadeem

Peace,

Great to see this thread being nourished by learned members! ;D

I've done some exercises in Arabic, and I'd appreciate some feedback.

Feel free to butcher me! peace

http//www.reflekterselv.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1443.0;attach=542

Nadeem

Kashif

I found following book for Arabic grammar a valuable resource.

Arabic for English Speaking students
by Muhammad Addul-Rauf PHD

This book provides "get to the point" Arabic grammar details with good examples.

http//www.amazon.com/English-Speaking-Students-Muhammad-Abdul-Rauf/dp/1881963004/ref=sr_11_1/002-5761012-1813662?ie=UTF8&qid=1179091195&sr=11-1