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The Bee- or something other.

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    Samia
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    Salaam simple

    Why on earth are you making the existing translation your idol?

    What translation are you talking about? This is my humble knowledge, not translation, and it is in response to the following

    Hi,

    Just pondering why is honey so important when it, to my knowledge is sugar and deadly for the diabetics and actually, to my knowledge causes diabetes if used in excess.

    May He Bless us everyone.

    Why is your "knowledge" admissable, but mine is idolatry?

    Your articles on fructose diets are off point, since they relate to non diabetics, and even here, are not clear and need more research. The conclusion suggests that glucose be the replacement sugar. This definitely is not an advise to someone who does not have insuline in the first place.

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      unknownuser
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      Salaams Samia,

      What translation are you talking about?

      I thought your post was indicating that the ayah is about honey!

      My suggestion was its not about honey (see my previous posts) - as honey isn't always good for us, and Allah?s advice is supposed to be good for us For Always - I think, don't you?

      Thanks but

      Sorry if I misunderstood you though.

      God Bless.

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        unknownuser
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        Just summerising,

        I doubt it was ever anything to do with bees or honey.

        Original Translation

        016.068
        YUSUFALI And thy Lord taught the Bee to build its cells in hills, on trees, and in (men's) habitations;
        016.069
        YUSUFALI Then to eat of all the produce (of the earth), and find with skill the spacious paths of its Lord there issues from within their bodies a drink of varying colours, wherein is healing for men verily in this is a Sign for those who give thought.

        New Translation (with lanes and QD)

        1668
        And inspired your lord with the free gift saying that take you/ learn from the SYSTEMS/WAYS of Lords/Mighty persons/successful people and FROM THEIR ARGUMENTS/REASONING and their bountiful ways.

        1669
        Then betake of the fruitfulness and follow the ways (of) your lord made easy coming forth from their affairs permeate/imbibe (the) varying dispositions wherein (is) recovery/ remedy for people verily in this a sign for people who think.

        Salaams to All.

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          jonny_k
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          Peace bro "simple",

          Salaams Nurd, Yusha, Jonny,

          There are hundreds of natural antibiotics not just honey.

          Is Allah talking about Honey? No - I doubt it.

          If Allah was going to talk about something of bees then it should be the royal jelly which out weighs the benefits of honey by miles.

          http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=11654.msg79946#msg79946

          And if something was worth mentioning then it would have been mother?s milk if anything - it has so many things of benefit for humans.

          So whether we believe it is about honey or learning from those people who are more successful then us.......

          In the modern countries people do learn from those who are more successful as the Ayah says i think.

          God Bless.

          JK- The context clearly implies a bee and how from its bellies a liquid of various colors issues. There is also a mathemtical correlation btw the sura no and the no of chromosomes int the bee. Then theres the amazing hexagonal shape the bees create with the honey and bro bahman has done a lot of research on tht. I cant just throw all tht down the drain n accept your out of the blue interpretation for the word "nahl" as being anyhing other than a bee. GOD Bless!

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            unknownuser
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            Salaams Jonny,

            your out of the blue interpretation for the word "nahl"

            Br the meaning is that quranic dictionary gave - not me.

            But it seems a good recommendation by God - "don't simply throw everything to fate?, "if you want to be a success copy those who are likewise - the successful ones.".

            From the existing translations He simply keeps pointing to trees,hills,bees.heavens,earth e.t.c I am sure we can all see those, can't we?

            Thanks Though.

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              gclandcp
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              Salam,

              There is article in the net that show honey can be use as a therapy for diabetic patients.

              http//news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070504/hl_afp/healthscience_070504213618

              Regards

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                unknownuser
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                Salaams Br,

                and i thought the traditional quran was talking about eating honey! rather then painting yourself with it.

                giveup

                Gods Blessings Br.

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                  phoenix1
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                  From the existing translations He simply keeps pointing to trees,hills,bees.heavens,earth e.t.c I am sure we can all see those, can't we?

                  No Simple, we can't see anything unless a book tells us it's there.

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                    shan-UK
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                      Alen
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                      Salam.

                      What kind of help do you need?
                      Where are you?
                      Are you in some problems?
                      What kind of problems have you encountered?

                      Peace.

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