Is god life itself?
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as a matter a fact i can imagine.
God was not created, we even talked about it in another topic here.
you see if someone created God, wouldn't that someone be better then God and why would we be told to serve God if there would be someone better then Him.
so for me it's not hard to grasp the fact that God was not created. it even says in sura 112 He was not beggoten. what more proof do you need?well you can't equate God to humans because He created us. we are not the same thing. He can destroy us but we can't come even close to even try to harm God.
and before He created the universe, there was only Him. i don't know what He was doing or if He created anything else before this universe, i'd like to ask Him though.
you're right hamsa, we can't understand. i mean i know God is alive, He is living but He will not taste death.
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So,if god is a nafs and every nafs tastes death,then god tastes death as well?
We cannot apply 2135 to God, that was my point. We cannot/ and are unable to understand the nafs/self of God. All we can know about God is what He Himself has told us in the quran. Thats it!
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what, the word "Himself"?
could you replace the word "Himself" with "life" or "soul"
would that make sense?to me something doesn't sit right.
Can you read arabic?
"himself" is a pronoun in english. ;D
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God is not comparable to anything.
That's why the Jews / Bani Israil called Him YHVH (Yahuweh/Yahuwah) which means He Who Is or He is He. This is due to EHYEH ASHER EHYEH (I Am Who I Am) answers from God when asked about His nature.
God is boundless on every side on all dimensions, and that explains the choice of word ECHAD (Hebrew) and AHAD (Arabic) which means ONE instead of YACHID (Hebrew) or WACHID (Arabic) which means "Single" or "Finite One". Thus He is THE INFINITE ONE. And how many "infinity" that could be possibly exist? Only ONE / ECHAD / AHAD.
From the Quran we can read that God is very near, nearer than our jugular vein. And that EVERYTHING depends on Him, and that also explains the choice of "RABB" word in the Quran, which means "Cherisher/Maintainer". Thus RABB AL-ALAMIEN eq CHERISHER / MAINTAINER OF ALL UNIVERSES.
So we cannot say that God is X (Replace X with anything; including "life" because He Is He / He Is Who He Is. And life itself is just one of His Creation.
Alhamdulillah (All Praise to God) / Hallelujah (Glory Be To YHVH)
Salam / Peace
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can i replace x with merciful?
we can say "God is merciful", right?"merciful" is an adjective. Jafar means when X is something, noun not attribute or adjective.
Salaam enquirer
First, welcome back!!
So, if God is life, whose life? You mean everybody has his life as his own God? -
Life = state of being alive.
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Yusuf Ali Allah! There is no god but He,-the Living,
Pickthal Allah! There is no deity save Him, the Alive,
Shakir Allah is He besides Whom there is no god, the Everliving,peace
unfortunatly i can't read arabic.
i don't know, what does the qur'an say?
is God life?
in those verses i didn't find that God calls himself "life". did i miss something?
IMHO, We should be able to read quran otherwise we have to rely on the opinions of translators.
You missed the word Nafs
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kataba/decreed rabbukum/your Lord AAala/on nafsihi/his nafs alrrahmata/the mercyAgain we cannot understand his Nafs/self, we can only know Him through His attributes.
Peace all, Hamsa
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no wonder, since i don't speak arabic.
To see a word one only needs eyes! ;D
exactly, it's a state, not someone who lives and talks.
Since am not a philosopher like you, so realy cannot comment on this.
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peace enquirer,all.
rasulhamsa- we can only know Him through His attributive names He has given in Quran.
Right ) The concept of God is uniquely different in every human being?s mind; even amongst the follower of the same faith. According to my understanding this concept keeps on changing with the passage of time in relation to one?s own life?s experiences/knowledge and rational analysis.
IN MY PERSONAL OPINION,
GOD = MERCY+LOVE+FORGIVENESS+JUSTICE+ ALL THE POSITIVE FORCES IN THE UNIVERSE.
And if in any human being/society or any place everywhere in this universe, where these attributes/positive forces cease to exist?..God cease to exist there.
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And if in any human being/society or any place everywhere in this universe, where these attributes/positive forces cease to exist?..God cease to exist there.
ah brother, very true indeed! Thanks
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IN MY PERSONAL OPINION,
GOD = MERCY+LOVE+FORGIVENESS+JUSTICE+ ALL THE POSITIVE FORCES IN THE UNIVERSE.
And if in any human being/society or any place everywhere in this universe, where these attributes/positive forces cease to exist?..God cease to exist there.
How beautifully put bravo
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PEace Be Upon You
Brother Enquirer, in my opinion, you are on the right track in a sense. There is a very famous verse in the bible that says, "Know thyself to know God." What does this verse mean? How do I know God by knowing myself? When we become in touch with our true essence, when we go within and calm the mind from its chatter and subconscious programs, only then can we open our channel and return to the Unmanifested One. It is at that moment that you can only experience God. Explaining Him or defining Him will always limit Him. Thus, there is the very beautiful verse in the quran which states, (18109) "Say, 'If the ocean were ink for the words of my Lord, the ocean would run out, before the words of my Lord run out, even if we double the ink supply.'"
Therefore, do not try to explain Him for we will become lost in the process. Experience Him thru connecting with your essence which is of God. When you reach that state 2 things (of many things) will happen. You will be His instrument and all the attributes of God found in the holy quran will be your task to deliver to the world. As the Lord's Prayer states, "Thy Will be done, on earth as it is in heaven". There are also many examples of people who killed their ego so that "His Will be done" found in the quran. The person was no longer the doer of anything. It was God who channeled His Will thru His instrument, His servent who sacrificed his/her false ego at the alter in order to receive True Abundance.
The second thing that will happen is you will see God in everyone and in everything. 2115 "To Allah belongs the East and the West, and wheresoever you turn, your face is toward Him. Surely He is All-Embracing, All-Knowing ." This will bring you an overwhelming peace in your heart and an awareness of unity. That unity is the truth of our existence. That will be the end of hatred, jealousy, anger, greed etc. How can you hate that which is connected to you? How can you reject God when God is everywhere you turn and even inside of you (closer to you than your jugular vein)? Life at that point will be limitless, abundant in Love and Compassion to mankind and earth.So in essence, I believe you are onto something. By being very still and knowing your true self, you will come the closest in this lifetime to really knowing God. And life is the journey thru which we realize this.
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Brother Enquirer, in my opinion, you are on the right track in a sense. There is a very famous verse in the bible that says, "Know thyself to know God."
That's what I'm trying to do right now. I'm trying to connect with myself.
Our self is our consciousness. God is consciousness. Not life.