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Why no female messengers/prophets?

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    Zehra
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    Don`t know whether or not there have been female messengers, but would just like to mention that the Old Testament (Bible) mentions prophetesses like Miriam (the sister of Moses and Aaron, not the mother of Jesus) and Ruth (I think) and others...

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      jankren
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      You are a shame to this place and even shame to the kafirs, I have to add you to the shamless list of free islam, however I dont even want to waste the 3 minutes it will take me to do it with a clear cut enemy of Islam like you

      I LOL'd at that comment. Anyway, I think action should be taken against this clear personal attack.

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        AaRoN
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        i think if the person who was attacked complains then maybe action should be taken. however, i doubt lobster is all broke up about it, so i think it should stay so that we can all have a laugh at the ridiculousness of it all

        back to the topic

        just because we don't read about female messengers or prophets in certain books does not mean they never existed. that would be like saying that because we didn't read about women in history books that women didn't exist at that time. it's simply because they were not mentioned in this specific publication for whatever reason. maybe that reason is so that eventually in the future people would be able to discuss on free minds forum whether or not there existed female messengers and prophets

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          Elke
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          Ahmed,

          i just saw you shameless list.
          You're really sick.

          lk

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            savage_carrot
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            I have to agree with you Elke.

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              Samia
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              Oh my God!! Disgusting
              In Egypt, these rude words only come from the lowest of the low. I am hugely disappointed.

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                unknownuser
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                If women are not allowed to be messengers then why no explanation in the quran for this?
                And if women were messengers then why no mention of even ONE woman messenger in the quran?
                Surely women messengers would help to erase the misogyny and oppression women face in tribal society and religion? Surely women messengers would help women a great deal in their quest for human rights?

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                  unknownuser
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                  Oh my God!! Disgusting
                  In Egypt, these rude words only come from the lowest of the low. I am hugely disappointed.

                  Its a common behaviour of so called religious people. They think if they take care of God they have to rude with the people. And you can easily see such people burning in their own hell.

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                    unknownuser
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                    I believe the reason is blindingly obvious. Take this as you will

                    Men are leaders. Throughout history, how many females have taken up leadership roles? Slim proportions. There might have been a female messenger or 5000, but are we in a position to a) know, and b) care?

                    No.

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                      Jack
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                      Male domination......even god is referred to as He {/quote]

                      The 'he' referring to God is not gender specific (in the arabic language) as far as i know

                      Though they are not referred to as such, i would consider both mary and sheba messengers. Mary being an exemplary woman to follow and sheba originally an idolator seeing the signs converted

                      The reason could be... as sad as it is .....'men' don't respond as well to 'women'..... its not God's law i don't believe but the way men/humans think

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                        AaRoN
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                        If women are not allowed to be messengers then why no explanation in the quran for this?

                        um... do you go automatically from "i hear no mention of it" to "it must not be allowed" in every aspect of your life?

                        And if women were messengers then why no mention of even ONE woman messenger in the quran?

                        why no mention of chinese messengers? mexican messengers? inuit messengers?

                        perhaps it has to do with the audience it was being delivered to, who knows... or as i said before, maybe it was purely so that this topic would be discussed on free-minds forum in a distant future.

                        Surely women messengers would help to erase the misogyny and oppression women face in tribal society and religion?

                        not all tribal societies treat their women with misogynist tendencies. maybe those societies received women messengers in the past then? or maybe women being treated with a misogynist mindset has very little to do with messengers and their gender at all (my vote is for this one)

                        Surely women messengers would help women a great deal in their quest for human rights?

                        messengers aren't about human rights, they are about spiritual quests

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                          agentxxx
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                          messengers aren't about human rights, they are about spiritual quests

                          I believe they are about both.

                          peace

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                            agentxxx
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                            peace all,

                            I just saw the shameless list...its brickwall brickwall brickwall

                            peace

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                              weinmar
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                              Peace Be Upon You All
                              I know God does as He pleases. But why do you think that no women ever get that title? I guess the closest would be Mary but she was just the messenger of a messenger so to speak ... She has a pretty cool title though ... the best of all women

                              but still ... anyone have a guess as to why?

                              Women go through alot of change during their life. They grow young, they develope breasts and have monthly periors. They get pregnant and give birth. They have menopose and get c-r-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-z-a-y.

                              Women are dumb by nature. Deal with it. If you think women should be smart might as compare my penis to my wife's. She will probably have a bigger one lol. Its a joke but... u get my point.

                              Women should deal with their bodies and obey more than questioning the authority. It works that way and everyone is happy...

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                                unknownuser
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                                Women go through alot of change during their life. They grow young, they develope breasts and have monthly periors. They get pregnant and give birth. They have menopose and get c-r-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-z-a-y.

                                Women are dumb by nature. Deal with it. If you think women should be smart might as compare my penis to my wife's. She will probably have a bigger one lol. Its a joke but... u get my point.

                                Women should deal with their bodies and obey more than questioning the authority. It works that way and everyone is happy...

                                Wow. Just wow.

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                                  Jafar
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                                  That depends on the definition of "messenger".

                                  Remember also "another Miriam/Mary" in story of Moses's birth....
                                  She's the one who saves baby Moses, and unite him with his mother..

                                  ?She said, ?Shall I direct you to a household who will rear him for you, and look after him in a good manner???
                                  (2812)

                                  In a way, this Miriam sister of Moses was also God's messenger, delivering God's salvation to this baby Moses..

                                  Salam

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                                    Elke
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                                    Women go through alot of change during their life. They grow young, they develope breasts and have monthly periors. They get pregnant and give birth. They have menopose and get c-r-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-z-a-y.

                                    Women are dumb by nature. Deal with it. If you think women should be smart might as compare my penis to my wife's. She will probably have a bigger one lol. Its a joke but... u get my point.

                                    Women should deal with their bodies and obey more than questioning the authority. It works that way and everyone is happy...

                                    lol,
                                    nice to know that we women grow young... it's a consolation
                                    and men are just too dumb to deal with the women, talk about dumb and dumber, just joking though P

                                    real authority, meaning coming from common sense and what is good for the majority, is less likely to be questioned, by it of male or female origin.

                                    peace
                                    lk

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                                      maxq
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                                      What reason?

                                      I guess he means a woman would be a Prophetess not Prophet the same way a woman is a princess and not a prince...

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                                        maxq
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                                        4 words...

                                        1. lot's
                                        2. of
                                        3. free
                                        4. time

                                        Well let me say this

                                        If Samia agrees with a kafir like you who call himself Allah, accuse Allah of lying, says you know better than Allah, and the Quran is a book of non sense, then she is a clear cut hypocrite, I hope she is not, but I can't see here defending her religion against the non sense a kafir like you spew every day

                                        You are a shame to this place and even shame to the kafirs, I have to add you to the shamless list of free islam, however I dont even want to waste the 3 minutes it will take me to do it with a clear cut enemy of Islam like you

                                        Edit Finally done it The Shameless List Update

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                                          Raj-ah
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                                          ilke

                                          Ahmed,

                                          i just saw you shameless list.
                                          You're really sick.

                                          lk

                                          What is harm in telling a person who is shameless that he or she is shame less?

                                          I don't see any thing sick in it!

                                          Right Carrot?

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