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    Samia
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    Alen

    The woman wears niqab, but definitely does not wear it when she is alone with her family. If you move in with them, she will be wearing it 24/24. I think the husband has a point. Even if she doesn't wear a niqab, it is not comfortable to have a stranger male in the house.

    The other man took you for three weeks...this is not something to ignore. As for marrying a woman (why do you have to say she was a Somali?), that was their way to help. I do not think that it would have been a bad idea, considering your situation, except if you are already committed.

    Try to look at the good side of people. They could have left you to the street. As for killing you, it is just absurd. Have they killed anybody before? The city is full of "christians" "shia's", "jews", "sikhs", "hindus"...why you?

    Try not to be self centred and do not blame people for not helping you.

    This is one of the safest and most fair countries, and one with abundant job opportunities. Try to do the most of it. Thank God you do not need a stay permit nor a work permit.

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      Alen The woman wears niqab, but definitely does not wear it when she is alone with her family. If you move in with them, she will be wearing it 24/24. I think the husband has a point. Even if she doesn't wear a niqab, it is not comfortable to have a stranger male in the house.
      The other man took you for three weeks...this is not something to ignore. As for marrying a woman (why do you have to say she was a Somali?), that was their way to help. I do not think that it would have been a bad idea, considering your situation, except if you are already committed.
      Try to look at the good side of people. They could have left you to the street. As for killing you, it is just absurd. Have they killed anybody before? The city is full of "christians" "shia's", "jews", "sikhs", "hindus"...why you?
      Try not to be self centred and do not blame people for not helping you.
      This is one of the safest and most fair countries, and one with abundant job opportunities. Try to do the most of it. Thank God you do not need a stay permit nor a work permit.

      Salam.

      I'm not ignoring the fact that the friend took me in for 3 weeks, i'm grateful to The God that i have such a friend, really, i am.

      I don't know her name, that's why i said she is Somali, because that's how they kept calling her, they didn't even tell me her name, i did see her once but they never told me her name. But i could never marry anyone for the wrong reasons, besides, i'm already taken, alhamdilAllah, alhamdilAllah, i have found my soulmate, alhamdilAllah.

      The guy that htreatned to kill me, his name is Adnan Kadrovic, has fought Serbs during Bosnia war, so i believe he is capable of taking a life, after all, he has no problems killing wrong-believers, why would he think twice killing someone who disagrees with him over sunna and hadith? I had several discussions with Adnan and i have noticed he wants to lead the conversation, he talks at me, he wants to win every argument, he wants to have the last word. But i will take your word.

      Adnan's friend, Moustaffa, did not believe me when i said i was a Muslim, i told them my name and after they heard my accent, they simply concluded i'm an American, i had to lift my shirt to show them i'm not wired and also recite Al-Fatiha to prove something .... i don't know what.

      This Mustaffa guy already has problems with the police and i have been told he is in the house arrest so he might be dangerous. I have never seen him again after that night when i had to recited Al-Fatiha to both of them.

      On the night i met Adnan and Moustaffa for the 1. time, when i proved to them i don't wear a wire, they asked me when did i come, what's my business in UK and after i told them i wanna direct a movie and that i'm a writer, the immediately quoted the hadeeth where, in Moustaffa's words, God will ask those people who make pictures to bring to life what they did and they won't be able to do so.
      Now, i could argue with him all night that God would never ask from a human to do something a human can't but i had no time nor nerves to argue with a man who looks like one of the guys from the East, both of them wear long beards.

      I don't blame people for not helping me, i wonder at the time we have arrived. A while back my father would help total strangers and my mother also and after they saw that people are not like them, they stopped with the whole help thing and that's why i think they have become what they are now.

      I love my parents as any other person but they are angry and i know why, i understand them but i won't be like them, i'll be better then them, i'll make different decisions, God willing.

      I'm grateful to God that i have you as my friends, especially Samia. Next time, lunch is on me. handshake

      God willing.

      Peace.

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        wow great story Alen!

        once you've succeeded you can write an autobiography about this inshallah.

        who's the other member in this forum have you met?

        Is Amanda your soulmate?

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          wow great story Alen!
          once you've succeeded you can write an autobiography about this inshallah.
          who's the other member in this forum have you met?
          Is Amanda your soulmate?

          Salam.

          I hope you will understand but i must ask you to stay patient and i will answer your questions.
          Thanks for understanding.

          If i succeed, God willing, i will not only write an autobiography, i will direct a movie about my life and stuff that happened, God willing.

          Thanks for support.

          Peace.

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            Anyway, i was learning, i'm still learning and i think i'm gonna learn some more. Only The God knows what awaits for me in the future, if there is future for me but i have a feeling my next step will be tough and therefore different.

            bravo

            There are no mistakes. There are no wrong situations. There are only opportunities to learn!

            And excellent points Sis Samia makes as well. It's effective to see the good in all!

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              Hmm, bro Alen's story kind of gives me the chills.

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                Hmm, bro Alen's story kind of gives me the chills.

                why? confused

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                  why? confused

                  Salam.

                  Maybe because i slept in the regent's Park one night and when i heard some large animal moaning i thought, no way, if this is Loch Ness Monster, she will have to go somewhere else, because i'm in no mood for a fight. peace
                  But then i remembered there's a ZOO in the Regent's Park and those were the lions. rotfl

                  Maybe because one sunni wanted me dead because i wanna make friedns with shia and said i was just joking and he then gave me the look that said"One more joke, you'll be swimming with those ducks in the park." &

                  Maybe because the general director on our first meeting first asked me"When did you convert?" What The Hell does he think, that Muslims only come from Makkah!? > > > > >

                  Maybe because the imam's Ali secretary asked me three times if i was a Muslim because she just can't swallow the fact that a Muslim exists with a name Alen, American accent, who is also a Slovenian citizen? Also, she has never heard of Slovenia, can't prounounce the word Slovenia, keeps saying Slovakia and keeps yelling at me that i'm yelling at her. She has this weird habit her office is opposite of the imam Ali's and yet these two characters speak to each other over the phone. ??? How lazy can a person get? ??? ???

                  Maybe because the London Central Mosque has such strict rules that you cannot stay there over night, even if you have no place to stay and then when the security guard called the cops, who are by the way very nice and soft, arrested one guy and took him out in cuffs?

                  Maybe because the certain people who come to pray only shake hands, make eye contact and talk to their own, they ignore the others and treat them as non-believer, wrong-believers? This one guy doesn't say salamu alaykum to everyone, just his own. One time there were four of us sitting in a circle and he comes along and shakes hands and says salam only to two guys who are from his country and me and another guy are sitting there and holding hands and nothing. He doesn't even make eye contact but he does pray in the first row every single prayer. group

                  Maybe because the security guard has strict instructions from a general director, who acts like a pharaoh, i saw it, that he must not allow certain women into the mosque because they might beg from people and find mercy and get food or cash? So what if they carry their kids? So what if they beg? They are people. Well, security guards say they are not Muslims so they canno beg in this mosque. > ??? -[ '( confused hypno nope & hmm wow

                  There's more.

                  Later, when Adnan's friend, valeed offered me a place to stay in his room for a week, i saw something else. I saw how some people can be not only brainwashed but how they like being brainwashed.

                  Also the guy in the building i was staying commited suicide.

                  Whenever i say we need to open our own business, they would be against it. Who? Everyone i encountered. They just like the fact that this country is paying their life expenses.

                  I'll be back with some more info.
                  InshaAllah.

                  Peace.

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                    Maybe because the London Central Mosque has such strict rules that you cannot stay there over night, even if you have no place to stay and then when the security guard called the cops, who are by the way very nice and soft, arrested one guy and took him out in cuffs?

                    the mosque is not a hostel, those are not strict rules, its standard practice, you will find that in all mosques in the UK.

                    Maybe because the certain people who come to pray only shake hands, make eye contact and talk to their own, they ignore the others and treat them as non-believer, wrong-believers? This one guy doesn't say salamu alaykum to everyone, just his own. One time there were four of us sitting in a circle and he comes along and shakes hands and says salam only to two guys who are from his country and me and another guy are sitting there and holding hands and nothing. He doesn't even make eye contact but he does pray in the first row every single prayer.

                    people don't usually talk to people they don't know, and the mosque is not a social club.

                    Maybe because the security guard has strict instructions from a general director, who acts like a pharaoh, i saw it, that he must not allow certain women into the mosque because they might beg from people and find mercy and get food or cash? So what if they carry their kids? So what if they beg? They are people. Well, security guards say they are not Muslims so they canno beg in this mosque.

                    The mosque is not a day care center either.... and you can't compare that guy to the pharaoh

                    Later, when Adnan's friend, valeed offered me a place to stay in his room for a week, i saw something else. I saw how some people can be not only brainwashed but how they like being brainwashed.

                    in what way is he brainwashed?

                    Whenever i say we need to open our own business, they would be against it. Who? Everyone i encountered.

                    1 in 3 business fail, its too risky imo

                    peace

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                      the mosque is not a hostel, those are not strict rules, its standard practice, you will find that in all mosques in the UK.
                      people don't usually talk to people they don't know, and the mosque is not a social club.
                      The mosque is not a day care center either.... and you can't compare that guy to the pharaoh o
                      in what way is he brainwashed?
                      1 in 3 business fail, its too risky imo
                      peace

                      Salam.

                      You're absolutely right, the mosque is not a hostel, hotel, motel or bned and breakfast. It's a place where people meet, make friends, pray, eat, .... right or wrong?

                      The reason i compared general director of that mosque to the pharaoh, is because i saw the same attitude when i read the story from The Quran and when i was meeting him and tlaking to him - same thing.

                      The brainwashed person(s) likes it, they like being led, they don't wanna think too much or outside the box, they like what they know and are not interested what's "behind the mountain". He is brainwashed in a way that his knowledge is a barrier and not an advantage to him.

                      At least that's my opinion.

                      The God knows best.

                      Peace.

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                        The brainwashed person(s) likes it, they like being led, they don't wanna think too much or outside the box, they like what they know and are not interested what's "behind the mountain". He is brainwashed in a way that his knowledge is a barrier and not an advantage to him.

                        I wouldn't call that "brain washed", those people have probably never studied other religions or looked into philosophy. If you want to debate with other Muslims about following the Quran alone they have to be interested in debating with you, if they're not interested then there is nowt you can do.

                        Most people don't question their religious beliefs but I personally would not equate that to "brain washing". It is uncomfortable to question your beliefs, especially when you have invested so much time and energy into something that is not even true.

                        People question their beliefs in their own time, when they are ready and not when others want them to.

                        As for "thinking outside the box" well we all have a limit on that, in my "Who created Allah" thread I noticed that you clearly did not approve of the question.

                        If you ever do discuss ahadith the best thing to do is reccomend them a quran alone site, that way you won't be bombarded with a million and one questions.

                        peace

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                          I wouldn't call that "brain washed", those people have probably never studied other religions or looked into philosophy. If you want to debate with other Muslims about following the Quran alone they have to be interested in debating with you, if they're not interested then there is nowt you can do.
                          Most people don't question their religious beliefs but I personally would not equate that to "brain washing". It is uncomfortable to question your beliefs, especially when you have invested so much time and energy into something that is not even true.
                          People question their beliefs in their own time, when they are ready and not when others want them to.
                          As for "thinking outside the box" well we all have a limit on that, in my "Who created Allah" thread I noticed that you clearly did not approve of the question.
                          If you ever do discuss ahadith the best thing to do is reccomend them a quran alone site, that way you won't be bombarded with a million and one questions.
                          peace

                          Salam.

                          Exactly, they never studied anything else but hadeerth and sunna, they not only did not study anything else, they don't want to study anything else and they don't want to debate it with me, they have no desire of having a dialogue, they wanna have a speech, a monologue, they want to talk at me.

                          The reason i didn't approve of your asking who created Allah, is simple i already found an answer in The Quran. Now we just need to study Quran hard, ask God for knowledge to get the Quran, that's all.

                          Thanks for the advice, sister.

                          Peace.

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                            Salam.

                            I forgot to tell you something.
                            If anyone decides to ever come to London, please, be careful in your choice of words, watch your back and keep a low profile.

                            I remember in London Central Mosque this woman accepted Islam while i was in the office of this imam and then he says, well, now you can choose a Muslim name and the other sister that was there told her four names Fatima, Amina, ..... i forgot the other two but i almost said, hey, hey, that's not important. Good thing i kept my mouth shut.

                            I didn't have an apartment back then and the newly recruited sister offered me a place to stay and a shower, right there in the office and imam just watched.

                            Imam's secretary was rude to me but that's because she is constantly suspicious of me, she kept telling me to go back to America. I kept telling her i'm not American and when i said i was from Slovenia she thought i was lying. I wish i was American, at least, i'd be in L.A. running on the beach and feeling the sand between my toes instead sitting here and smelling of chicken and pasta.

                            I hope i earn some heavy cash fast, God willing and move on. Literally.

                            God knows best.

                            Peace.

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                              Salam.

                              Okay, so now you know my story i got deported anjd banned for 5 yerars on 8.8. 1999, right? Then i went to the States on January, 9th, 2006 and same thing happend due to the wrong info i got at the US embassy and this time i got deported and banned untill 2016.

                              Then i came home, i prayed, i tlaked to God, i asked why, why would this happened, i had good intension, i wanted to help Chad, i wanted to do good, why was i prevented, why would God prevent me from doing good and allow some other person to do all the bad stuff?

                              I read The Quran and found myself there Moses traveled with this other guy and they stopped because they were hungry but they noticed that their lunch is gone, the fish slipped back into the sea. Tough cookie, they had to go back.
                              They did.
                              They met an angel who taught Moses plenty of stuff, alhamdilALLAH.

                              That is me. That is what i am looking for! I also made a mistake, forgot entry visa, went back and .... well, then what?

                              Okay, since i got back from the States on February, 4th, 2006 i decided to forget USA and Hollywood with its industry and just focus on marriage. I prayed to The Exalted God Most Merciful to give me a woman who would follow Just The Quran and who would want to marry me.

                              The God was and is Most Merciful and He not only gave me what i wanted, He gave me more i got a woman who follows The Quran alone, who wants to marry me, who has a car, an apartment, a job, who is a writer like me and on top of all that, says can help me with my scripts! Spooky, huh? No, just normal for a normal believer.

                              I met this soulmate of mine after i came back from the USA, like Moses met the angel after he returned from whereever were they going.

                              We met and spoke for a long while and talked only on the email and messenger and later we made more progress she got a better job and i went to UK where i'm very close of getting a deal of a century i am one step of directing and producing my own movie.

                              Why would i like to direct a movie? Because i can, because i want to, because i like it, because it makes me happy and because i can make money doing it.

                              Why would i like to produce a movie? Because as a producer i can get my paws on 70% of the movie profit at the BoX Office and therefore i can do with that $cash$ whatever i want i can buy food, clothes, medicine to Africans, build mosques in Slovenia, kill poverty where ever in the world and maybe buy myself WV Corrado because that car is just plain cool, my future wife would get Audi A8 as a dowry, of course, what did you think, i would buy her just apple pie? Apple pie is for later, much later, amigos.

                              Now, i'm in Leicester where i have to wait for a job so i can earn at least $10.000 USD so i can go back to London and get the cheapest hostel and direct and produce a comedy because it's simple, easy and funny. I got the camcorder, i got the script, i got the plan, i got the crew, i got the cast, i got the Space, i got the Time, i got London, 3rd largest movie industry, yes, right after Los Angeles and New York.
                              I know about Bollywood but let's be realistic London outranks Bollywood any day of the week and twice on sunday.

                              There is this little voice telling me i should ask all of you here on this forum for a loan, ($10.000 USD) but then there is another little voice who says that i should shoot the first voice.

                              Lots of new stuff happened here in UK during my time here.

                              1. I pray the way i want.
                              2. I got threatned by two wahabis.
                              3. They wanted me to marry some Somali girl during my stay in London.
                              4. I slept in the Regent's Park and it was cold.
                              5. I slept in front of the London Central Mosque as well at the police station near US embassy.
                              6. I changed 3 jobs so far.
                              7. I changed approx., 5 apartments.
                              8. Right now i get free meals, free internet use, free phone, free apartment and free paper.
                              9. I made several new friends.
                              10. I can read Bosnian Quran.
                              11. I am visiting Bosnian Forum and they are truly, really brainwashed by communism.
                              12. My prayers are being answered within 24 hours.
                              13. Western Union is only a few feet from the internet place.
                              14. Today i received National Insurance Number.
                              15. On monday i will have an interview for a job.
                              16. So far, i have met two sisters from the forum - nice people.
                              17. I lost some weight.
                              18. ....

                              I can't remember everything that has happened since march, 13th, 2006 but i will remember. InshaALLAH. There were some bad stuff as well as good. If i remember, i'll tell ya.

                              Untill then, so long, thank you for your cooperation, good luck and good night.

                              P.S.Well, luck is not a factor.

                              Best wishes.
                              Alen.

                              Peace.

                              Hey Allen, is it easy entering the US after being deported for 5 years? What was the procedure and what is the possibility for being able to enter again after the 5 years have passed?

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                                Hey Allen, is it easy entering the US after being deported for 5 years? What was the procedure and what is the possibility for being able to enter again after the 5 years have passed?

                                Salam.

                                After being deported and banned for 5 years, if you wish to return to USA, go to the US embassy, give them the passport, tell them, don't forget this, tell them you were deported and banned for 5 years and make sure that they check your passport number in the computer.
                                Ask them if you need an entry visa. You do but ask them anyway, they are lazy.

                                Peace.

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                                  Salam.

                                  After being deported and banned for 5 years, if you wish to return to USA, go to the US embassy, give them the passport, tell them, don't forget this, tell them you were deported and banned for 5 years and make sure that they check your passport number in the computer.
                                  Ask them if you need an entry visa. You do but ask them anyway, they are lazy.

                                  Peace.

                                  Thanks handshake

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                                    Peace,

                                    is it easy entering the US after being deported for 5 years?

                                    Yes, just fly into Mexico and walk across the border. Then you save up like $5k and pay someone to marry you. Or, maybe even fall in love or atleast find someone cool enough to do it for free.

                                    peace

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                                      actually, just fly into a really tall building, and you'll be in the US for the rest of your life...unless of course you live, then they'll put you in Cuba.

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                                        Salam.

                                        I have been living here in this small city for 2 months now.
                                        Somali community now knows how i pray, they have seen me perform the ablution and pray.

                                        Nobody has made any threats but they do distance themselves from me. They don't want to be my friends or eventalk, some do, those that do wanna talk, wanna convince me that sunna and hadith were revealed to prophet Muhammad. Now, i can't do anything about it so i just live my life, according to The Quran.

                                        I am a Quran Alone Muslim.

                                        Period.

                                        Subject closed.

                                        It's not open for debate.

                                        AlhamdilAllah. AlhamdilAllah.

                                        Peace.

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                                          offtopic

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