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Do you believe Allah sent messenger(s) after the prophet Muhammad?

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    darguzaraznaam
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    My answer is 'yes and no' )

    Distinguishing between 'nabi' and 'rasool' - rasool are sent to all peoples and have 'knowledge of the book', whereas 'nabi' bring 'the book'.

    Logically, all Nabi are rasool, but not all rasool are nabi. Thus "Mohammad is 'A' messenger of God, and the 'Seal' of the Nabi." shows he is the last Nabi, but one of many and not necessarily the last of the messengers.

    Sorry about the lack of references, but years ago I went through quraan and listed every reference regarding 'Nabi' and 'Rasool', and made above conclusion. You can do the same!

    Properties of rasool were A & B (forgotten details - one was 'knowledge of the book&#039
    Properties of Nabi were A & B & C (forgotten details - one was 'bring the book&#039

    Fred has A & B - therefore he is a rasool, but cannot be a Nabi because he lacks C
    Joe has A & B & C - therefore he is a nabi, and also a rasool since he obviously has A & B

    Modify Hmmm! ) RasulHamza's quote of 5725 above has just put me in doubt of my original characteristaion of Nabi/Rasul!!! Oh well - back to the drawingboard for a re-assesment. Doesn't alter my opinion about 'rasool to all peoples' meaning including modern times vs 'khatam un-nabi' meaning no more 'nabi's, though )!

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      Lost_Philosopher
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      Peace to all,

      ps, also,, in New testament Jesus says God will send one more Prophet of truth after him to complete his message,, so that kinda proves only one more after Jesus which would be Mohammad,,,correct me if im wrong,

      Kurt

      I dont remember any verse saying that, can you give a certain verse that says this?

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        mz
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        Peace Alen

        In my opinion the "stamp" of this office is given in defined parameters if you would take some of this chapter into context.

        For example his rights regarding spouses and dependants is given .

        There are special circumstances applicable to the nabiyy
        -Keeping watch and maintaining stability against the enemies
        -Authority

        He is a guiding beacon bringing good news of blessing from God to Believers, he warns and he witnesses .

        Establishes God's commands .
        -Shows how God deems a thing to be.

        They've signed a covenant to be questioned concerning their truth .

        They're not to obey the hypocrites and instead follow the Lord who is aware, putting their trust in Him .

        Joe

        May just be my missunderstanding - however

        Arn't there people even now doing all these/them things and even in all communities and countries?

        So isn't it somethings all people moving to the right direction take up or adopt.

        what so special about the people of previous gnerations who did them things and isn't special for any people nowadays?

        !

        Gods Blessings.

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          TheNabi
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          Peace mz

          I do not understand what you are trying to say. I do not think there are people doing all these things in other places under the given circumstances.

          Joe

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            IronSky
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            Peace to all,

            Lost Phil, try John Chapter 14 verses 15 and 25, and each of the books of the new testament have the story Jesus told of the next advocate to come after, read up on it and then let me know what you think.

            KUrt

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              mz
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              Peace mz

              I do not understand what you are trying to say. I do not think there are people doing all these things in other places under the given circumstances.

              Joe

              you could be right.

              God Bless.

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                unknownuser
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                And we didn?t send a messenger except in the tongue/language (lisaan) of his people, in order that he make things clear for them.. .

                For every community there is a messenger...

                ..We are not punishers until we have sent a messenger .

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                  lovelymoslems
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                  Muhammad is the last prophet (khataman nabiyin) for nation of ummy (Arab) not for the whole mankind. Allah will always send messenger when the world is ruled by thoghuts. The messenger will free men from this ruler.

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                    unknownuser
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                    OPF and lovelymuslims,any idea on who,where and when these meessengers are to be seen? Or are they part of the unseen supernatural realm?

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                      Ghulam_Rasool
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                      Muhammad is the last prophet (khataman nabiyin) for nation of ummy (Arab) not for the whole mankind. Allah will always send messenger when the world is ruled by thoghuts. The messenger will free men from this ruler.

                      What is the basis for this claim? Prophet Muhammad (sallallahu alaihi wa salaam) was sent for all humanity, not just Arabs.

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                        Rumi
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                        What is the basis for this claim? Prophet Muhammad (sallallahu alaihi wa salaam) was sent for all humanity, not just Arabs.

                        I have to agree with Yusha here.

                        Besides the message of the Quran is supposed to be for all people, for all time, whether or not other messengers come is a moot and irrelevant point.

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                          mz
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                          I have to agree with Yusha here.

                          Besides the message of the Quran is supposed to be for all people, for all time, whether or not other messengers come is a moot and irrelevant point.

                          Please share with everybody where it says so.

                          Thanks.

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                            Jack
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                            690 These are the ones guided by God; so let their guidance be an example. Say "I do not ask you for a wage; this is but a reminder for the worlds."

                            12104 And you do not ask them for a wage for it, it is but a reminder to the worlds.

                            8127 It is but a reminder for the worlds.

                            you should (as always) read the surrounding verses to understand the true context

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                              mz
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                              690 These are the ones guided by God; so let their guidance be an example. Say "I do not ask you for a wage; this is but a reminder for the worlds."

                              12104 And you do not ask them for a wage for it, it is but a reminder to the worlds.

                              8127 It is but a reminder for the worlds.

                              you should (as always) read the surrounding verses to understand the true context

                              Salaams Br,

                              And-

                              for all time

                              ?

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                                Jafar
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                                I have to agree with Yusha here.

                                Besides the message of the Quran is supposed to be for all people, for all time, whether or not other messengers come is a moot and irrelevant point.

                                Do you mean "all message" in the Quran, or the core (Wisdom) of its messages.
                                I really cannot imagine how the eskimos could be able to perform the "Fasting Of Ramadhan"...
                                Since summer time on the Antartic, the Sun will never go down for more or less a month.. (no nighttime).
                                And in winter time there will be no sun.. (no daylight)

                                Salam

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