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Can Someone Be Both Muslim & Christian???

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    harryandlouise
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    Q&A The Rev. Ann Holmes Redding, an Episcopal priest who says she's both Christian and Muslim, answered questions from readers today.

    Click below for an interesting read ....

    http//community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/reader_feedback/reader_feedback.php?id=171

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      Elke
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      Peace all,

      personnally i now see "muslim" as a state of mind that only god can judge.
      So can you be christian and muslim at the same time ?
      Yes, some christians can.

      lk

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        jankren
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        This Reverend Ann Holmes Redding is definitely a Muslim because she does not believe Jesus is God.

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          SwedenMajidah
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          peace LP,
          You can be a believer and a christian as long as what you believe is true. Mumin are the believers in truth. So call yourself whatever you want, as long as you are following the truth, you'll be fine.

          and setting up partners with god starts a lot smaller than trinity. It's when people ignore the truth, or the right thing, and follow their own desires, like Adam did. That's what leads to worshipping of stone idols and killing people etc.
          And the story of Adam shows us that the states of muslim, mumin, kafir, etc are not concrete but most people are shifting constantly between one state of mind and another. Our goal is to stay in islam ALL the time. That's why the quran says "don't die except as muslim."

          I agree with you!

          And there is only one God so if you believe in Him then you are on the safe side. But for me the rituals in the different so called religions are the reasons to splitting between those. To believe in God you don't have to go and pray in a special place and if you bow your mind to the almighty then you don't need some special ritual for prayers.
          To adhere to God and his scriptures is for your mental state but people have misunderstand it and overdoing it to be mere a physical act.

          Maria

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            Peace,

            If you read closely you can see some error in her beleifs, but she is defintely, hopefully on the right path to at least open the discussion among her people. She may in fact be the bridge that could gap some divides amongst people of faith. If you read closely she says Children of God..obviously some flaws in the beleif. My opinion is that she is seeking the truth, but has not come full circle on the beleif. I am sure there are alot of "muslims" who have this same issue, so who are we to judge! Gotta give her credit for speaking her mind and not fearing men..becasue there are alot of people who come to FM and add articles and use fake name out of fear of being exposed! You gotta give it up for this lady she actually had the guts to come out into the open! NOt hide in the darkness but bring forth her "perception" of truth~however skewed it may be~ she still brought it forward!

            There is a lesson inthis story I beelive !

            Say your truth speak your min and don't fear men only fear God!

            Mandi

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              jankren
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              Peace,

              If you read closely you can see some error in her beleifs, but she is defintely, hopefully on the right path to at least open the discussion among her people. She may in fact be the bridge that could gap some divides amongst people of faith. If you read closely she says Children of God.

              But still it depends on what is her understanding of 'Children of God'. When Jesus said he was the 'Son of God', any Jews even today understand that he meant that he was 'a person devoted to God and loved by God'. I hope this is also her understanding of the term.

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                unknownuser
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                rotfl
                No woman on earth can be a wife of two husbands as only one can be her legal husband and the other obviously her illicit lover. If you permit that legally then this America's 60% of Population will be illegal immigrants. Oops! Peekaboo! when it affects us we don't want to legalize it.

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                  Lost_Philosopher
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                  This Reverend Ann Holmes Redding is definitely a Muslim because she does not believe Jesus is God.

                  So, this would make me a muslim on the same level as well?

                  If you read closely you can see some error in her beleifs,

                  The only 'error' in someones belief would be to harm someone else.

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                    jankren
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                    So, this would make me a muslim on the same level as well?

                    Muslim merely means 'One who submits (To God)'. Until the 8th century noone probably labelled himself as a Muslim. I personally have begun to label myself a 'Quranist'. I dont want to label myself 'Muslim' because I dont know if I have submitted to God enough. It is like when you go around and call yourself 'Genius' while actually you are not that smart.

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                      Jack
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                      This Reverend Ann Holmes Redding is definitely a Muslim because she does not believe Jesus is God

                      does she believe jesus is son of god though?

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                        Lost_Philosopher
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                        does she believe jesus is son of god though?

                        In the same way that we all are children of god.

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                          literally? and/or in what sense?

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                            unknownuser
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                            literally? and/or in what sense?

                            "Son of ...." is actually a hebrew idiom. There are places in the Torah where evil people were referred to as "sons of belial", which likely referred to a demon or pagan god. In the text calling someone a "son of belial", is it saying that they were fathered by a demon? Of course not. It is saying that they were behaving in a way that you would expect that demon to behave. So also, when Jesus is called the son of God, it does not mean that he was begotten in any sense similar to the way that humans are concieved. It simply means that God bestowed upon him the grace to act in a manner that best represented the character of God. Being "begotten" of God in the Hebrew sense also refers to one's coronation as king. Psalm 2 was a coronation psalm for kind David, and it contains the line, "You are my son, this day have I begotten you." It means he was anointed to act as God's representative. What the Quran does is correct a skewing of the biblical texts that happened when pagans became Christians and brought with them crazy notions of gods being able to father children like what one finds in the greek myths. It is in this sense (i.e. a corrective one) that "Allah does not beget, nor is he begotten" needs to be understood. But I do not think it negates the hebrew idioms applied to Jesus, and in my opinion it is possible to call Jesus the son of God in its proper context and with the right understanding without joining partners with Allah.

                            As far as whether or not someone can be both Christian and Muslim? I would think that the best practice of Islam and Christianity is really the same thing - to believe in only one God, to do good works, and to set regular times for prayer.

                            I've been away for a while. I've missed this forum. )

                            Peace,
                            Joel

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                              Lost_Philosopher
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                              literally? and/or in what sense?

                              I don't remember what sense she thought it was, but the way I see it is that when someone creates something, they usually think of it as their child.

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                                Jack
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                                peace

                                great post joel

                                LP, i've met known a lot of christians who took the 'children of God' literally....

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                                  Lost_Philosopher
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                                  I know, I have as well, it never seemed to make sense to me after hearing the "How could God have children without a wife?" question. To find out, Mormons believe God has a wife. God just loves her so much that he didn't mention her so man wouldn't take her name in vain. (Veil?)

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                                    wow no comment ...not only that, if we were God's children, where are my divine powers

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                                      unknownuser
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                                      wow no comment ...not only that, if we were God's children, where are my divine powers

                                      Wait, so you're telling me you can't jump off a cliff blindfolded? And you can't fly?

                                      Oh, I get it. You're kryptonite-challenged.

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                                        Wait, so you're telling me you can't jump off a cliff blindfolded? And you can't fly?

                                        working on it !

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                                          Lost_Philosopher
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                                          Mormons don't believe we are gods yet. We will become divine after the judgement day.

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