"Obey the Prophet" refers to Political Obedience

Leoxyz

Another example

IMAM ABU HANIFA

Answer

The Quran tells us in some verses that the messenger was to give the knowledge of Al-Kitab and Al-Hikmah, i.e. the Book and the Wisdom. Al-Kitab or The Book refers to the Quran while Al-Hikmah or The Wisdom, is something other than the Quran and it is the un-recited, hidden revelation which the messenger received outside of the Quran and which is contained in the Books of traditions.

CLARIFICATION

When the Quran gives a concept then it does not leave it hanging in the air, but it also defines that concept. It is stated in certain verses of the Quran that the messenger of Allah was to give the knowledge of Al-Kitab and Hikmah. Now the Quran will itself define what is Al-Kitab, i.e. The Book or written laws, and what consists of Hikmah i.e. wisdom. The following verses inform us

"Our Sustainer! and raise up in them a messenger from among them who shall recite to them your verses and give them knowledge of The Book and the wisdom, and proivide development to their personalities; surely Thou art the Mighty, the Wise." (2129)

"Certainly Allah conferred a favour upon the believers when He raised among them a messenger from among themselves, reciting to them His verses and providing development to their personalities, and giving them the knowledge of the Book and the wisdom, although before that they were surely in manifest error." (3164)

Peace
The actual verses are as below
2129

3164
Would you let me know how have you translated my highlighted lines of your translation ??
{probably it is the reason you people do not put actual Quranic text because you cannot dodge as easily you try to do}
Waiting for reply

unknownuser

{probably it is the reason you people do not put actual Quranic text because you cannot dodge as easily you try to do}
Waiting for reply

I?m sure brother Arnold will reply and since you said ?you people? ? therefore?

http//www.islamawakened.com/Quran/2/129

http//www.islamawakened.com/Quran/3/164

http//www.islamawakened.com/Quran/3/48
348

WayuAAallimuhu alkitaba waalhikmata waalttawrata waal-injeela
And He teaches/instructs him The Book and the wisdom and the Torah and the Bible/Holy book descended on Jesus .

http//www.islamawakened.com/Quran/3/81
381 Behold! Allah took the covenant of the prophets, saying "I give you a BOOK AND WISDOM; then comes to you an apostle, confirming what is with you; do ye believe in him and render him help." Allah said "Do ye agree, and take this my Covenant as binding on you?" They said "We agree." He said "Then bear witness, and I am with you among the witnesses."

Thus, all Prophets (God bless them) received ?The Book and the Wisdom" and ?The Balance? of right and wrong (5725; 4217) referring to revelation.

http//www.islamawakened.com/Quran/27/1
Taseen tilka ayatu alqurani wakitabin mubeenin
271 Ta Sin! These are the verses of the Quran and the Book that makes (things) clear

http//www.islamawakened.com/Quran/36/2
Waalqur-ani alhakeemi
362 By the Qur'an, full of Wisdom,-

Say or ?qul? appears 100s of times in Qur?an and numerous verses start; ?they ask thee?say? thus Qur'an (al kitab) ? a book full of Wisdom (a God gift); The Scripture and sunna according to God and that of the Prophets was sent to make clear and teach us.

Perhaps you have ?stories? worthy to append to Qur?an ? if so, post ONE in its entirety with all other references to it and tell why it should be Holy Scripture.

It?s really a simple matter?

http//www.islamawakened.com/Quran/17/88

http//www.islamawakened.com/Quran/17/89
1789 And indeed We have fully explained to mankind, in this Quran, every kind of similitude, but most mankind refuse (the truth and accept nothing) but disbelief.

Unless of course you?re talking about stories for historical perspective which all history is hearsay according to someone and not ?The Bible Truth? or ?Hadith Qudsi? as some calls it.

Awaiting reply?

Peace

Leoxyz

I?m sure brother Arnold will reply and since you said ?you people? ? therefore?

http//www.islamawakened.com/Quran/2/129

http//www.islamawakened.com/Quran/3/164

http//www.islamawakened.com/Quran/3/48
348

WayuAAallimuhu alkitaba waalhikmata waalttawrata waal-injeela
And He teaches/instructs him The Book and the wisdom and the Torah and the Bible/Holy book descended on Jesus .

http//www.islamawakened.com/Quran/3/81
381 Behold! Allah took the covenant of the prophets, saying "I give you a BOOK AND WISDOM; then comes to you an apostle, confirming what is with you; do ye believe in him and render him help." Allah said "Do ye agree, and take this my Covenant as binding on you?" They said "We agree." He said "Then bear witness, and I am with you among the witnesses."

Thus, all Prophets (God bless them) received ?The Book and the Wisdom" and ?The Balance? of right and wrong (5725; 4217) referring to revelation.

http//www.islamawakened.com/Quran/27/1
Taseen tilka ayatu alqurani wakitabin mubeenin
271 Ta Sin! These are the verses of the Quran and the Book that makes (things) clear

http//www.islamawakened.com/Quran/36/2
Waalqur-ani alhakeemi
362 By the Qur'an, full of Wisdom,-

Say or ?qul? appears 100s of times in Qur?an and numerous verses start; ?they ask thee?say? thus Qur'an (al kitab) ? a book full of Wisdom (a God gift); The Scripture and sunna according to God and that of the Prophets was sent to make clear and teach us.

Perhaps you have ?stories? worthy to append to Qur?an ? if so, post ONE in its entirety with all other references to it and tell why it should be Holy Scripture.

It?s really a simple matter?

http//www.islamawakened.com/Quran/17/88

http//www.islamawakened.com/Quran/17/89
1789 And indeed We have fully explained to mankind, in this Quran, every kind of similitude, but most mankind refuse (the truth and accept nothing) but disbelief.

Unless of course you?re talking about stories for historical perspective which all history is hearsay according to someone and not ?The Bible Truth? or ?Hadith Qudsi? as some calls it.

Awaiting reply?

Peace

Dear
Unfortunately my question is still unanswered

I put it again

Another example

IMAM ABU HANIFA

Answer

The Quran tells us in some verses that the messenger was to give the knowledge of Al-Kitab and Al-Hikmah, i.e. the Book and the Wisdom. Al-Kitab or The Book refers to the Quran while Al-Hikmah or The Wisdom, is something other than the Quran and it is the un-recited, hidden revelation which the messenger received outside of the Quran and which is contained in the Books of traditions.

CLARIFICATION

When the Quran gives a concept then it does not leave it hanging in the air, but it also defines that concept. It is stated in certain verses of the Quran that the messenger of Allah was to give the knowledge of Al-Kitab and Hikmah. Now the Quran will itself define what is Al-Kitab, i.e. The Book or written laws, and what consists of Hikmah i.e. wisdom. The following verses inform us

"Our Sustainer! and raise up in them a messenger from among them who shall recite to them your verses and give them knowledge of The Book and the wisdom, and proivide development to their personalities; surely Thou art the Mighty, the Wise." (2129)

"Certainly Allah conferred a favour upon the believers when He raised among them a messenger from among themselves, reciting to them His verses and providing development to their personalities, and giving them the knowledge of the Book and the wisdom, although before that they were surely in manifest error." (3164)

Peace
The actual verses are as below
2129

3164
Would you let me know how have you translated my highlighted lines of your translation ??
"Giving them the knowledge of book and wisdom"
Which word of Arabic is translated as "giving"?
I do not need 'www.blablablabla. I need exact word whose meaning has been translated "giving" by the "Quran lovers"
{probably it is the reason you people do not put actual Quranic text because you cannot dodge as easily you try to do}
Waiting for reply

unknownuser

Dear
Unfortunately my question is still unanswered

I put it again

Peace
The actual verses are as below
2129

3164
Would you let me know how have you translated my highlighted lines of your translation ??
"Giving them the knowledge of book and wisdom"
Which word of Arabic is translated as "giving"?
I do not need 'www.blablablabla. I need exact word whose meaning has been translated "giving" by the "Quran lovers"
{probably it is the reason you people do not put actual Quranic text because you cannot dodge as easily you try to do}
Waiting for reply

Dearest ? it?s polite to answer questions posted to you as well.

From www.blablablabla which has ?actual Quranic text? you requested?

al-Baqarah (The Cow) 2129
2129

Transliteration Rabbana waibAAath feehim rasoolan minhum yatloo AAalayhim ayatika wayuAAallimuhumu alkitaba waalhikmata wayuzakkeehim innaka anta alAAazeezu alhakeemu
Literal Our Lord, and send in them a messenger from them (who) reads/recites on (to) them Your verses/evidences and He teaches/instructs them The Book , and the wisdom , and purifies them , that You are the glorious/mighty the wise/ judicious.

al-Imran (The Family of Imran, The House of Imran) 3164
3164

Transliteration Laqad manna Allahu AAala almu/mineena ith baAAatha feehim rasoolan min anfusihim yatloo AAalayhim ayatihi wayuzakkeehim wayuAAallimuhumu alkitaba waalhikmata wa-in kanoo min qablu lafee dalalin mubeenin
Literal God had blessed on the believers, when He sent in them a messenger from themselves, he reads/recites on them His verses/evidences and he purifies/corrects them, and he teaches/instructs them The Book ,and the wisdom , and if they were from before in (E) a clear/evident misguidance.

How are people to be taught and where are these guaranteed by God ?authentic? instructions?

Re-read prior post and answer the simple questions.

Say or ?qul? appears 100s of times in Qur?an and numerous verses start; ?they ask thee?say? thus Qur'an (al kitab) ? a book full of Wisdom (a God gift); The Scripture and sunna according to God and that of the Prophets was sent to make clear and teach us.

Perhaps you have ?stories? worthy to append to Qur?an ? if so, post ONE in its entirety with all other references to it and tell why it should be Holy Scripture?

Peace

Leoxyz

Dearest ? it?s polite to answer questions posted to you as well.

From www.blablablabla which has ?actual Quranic text? you requested?

al-Baqarah (The Cow) 2129
2129

Transliteration Rabbana waibAAath feehim rasoolan minhum yatloo AAalayhim ayatika wayuAAallimuhumu alkitaba waalhikmata wayuzakkeehim innaka anta alAAazeezu alhakeemu
Literal Our Lord, and send in them a messenger from them (who) reads/recites on (to) them Your verses/evidences and He teaches/instructs them The Book , and the wisdom , and purifies them , that You are the glorious/mighty the wise/ judicious.

al-Imran (The Family of Imran, The House of Imran) 3164
3164

Transliteration Laqad manna Allahu AAala almu/mineena ith baAAatha feehim rasoolan min anfusihim yatloo AAalayhim ayatihi wayuzakkeehim wayuAAallimuhumu alkitaba waalhikmata wa-in kanoo min qablu lafee dalalin mubeenin
Literal God had blessed on the believers, when He sent in them a messenger from themselves, he reads/recites on them His verses/evidences and he purifies/corrects them, and he teaches/instructs them The Book ,and the wisdom , and if they were from before in (E) a clear/evident misguidance.

How are people to be taught and where are these guaranteed by God ?authentic? instructions?

Re-read prior post and answer the simple questions.

Say or ?qul? appears 100s of times in Qur?an and numerous verses start; ?they ask thee?say? thus Qur'an (al kitab) ? a book full of Wisdom (a God gift); The Scripture and sunna according to God and that of the Prophets was sent to make clear and teach us.

Perhaps you have ?stories? worthy to append to Qur?an ? if so, post ONE in its entirety with all other references to it and tell why it should be Holy Scripture?

Peace

My dear brother ,thanks for reply;
The answer to my question should be just one line but unfortunately it is still lacking .

I repeat my question;
Which word in the Aya has been translated as "giving".
I do not find that "giving" in this translation which you have provided.
The question is very simple but you are beating about the bush but not answering my question like 2+2 = 4

You said

Say or ?qul? appears 100s of times in Qur?an and numerous verses start; ?they ask thee?say? thus Qur'an (al kitab) ? a book full of Wisdom (a God gift); The Scripture and sunna according to God and that of the Prophets was sent to make clear and teach us

Again probably you have read it from some website www.blablabla .
The word ) has been used in the Holy Quran 332 times not 100 times .Please correct this information for future reference.
Still waiting for exact word

unknownuser

My dear brother ,thanks for reply;
The answer to my question should be just one line but unfortunately it is still lacking .

I repeat my question;
Which word in the Aya has been translated as "giving".
I do not find that "giving" in this translation which you have provided.
The question is very simple but you are beating about the bush but not answering my question like 2+2 = 4

You said Again probably you have read it from some website www.blablabla .
The word ( ) has been used in the Holy Quran 332 times not 100 times .Please correct this information for future reference.
Still waiting for exact word

My dearest brother, hopefully you?ll reply and not ?beat around the bush.?

I did answer and left it as ?teach/instruct? so you can come back to tell us it means we are supposed to follow in every detail from sleeping, walking, eating, etc., except perhaps the sunna of eating watermelon ? no joke and remember according to one of the sunni schools of thought (Maliki perhaps) they weren?t sure to cut it with a knife or bite, thus refused to eat watermelon.

Please correct your vision; I said

How are people to be taught and where are these guaranteed by God ?authentic? instructions?

Re-read prior post and answer the simple questions.

Say or ?qul? appears 100s of times in Qur?an and numerous verses start; ?they ask thee?say? thus Qur'an (al kitab) ? a book full of Wisdom (a God gift); The Scripture and sunna according to God and that of the Prophets was sent to make clear and teach us.

Perhaps you have ?stories? worthy to append to Qur?an ? if so, post ONE in its entirety with all other references to it and tell why it should be Holy Scripture?

100s of times = multiple hundreds not 100.

I?ll leave it to the original author to present the translation, although ?teach/instruct? can be interpreted as ?give? lessons or a lecture.

Waiting for answers to my simple questions above you keep dodging.

Peace

Leoxyz

My dearest brother, hopefully you?ll reply and not ?beat around the bush.?

I did answer and left it as ?teach/instruct? so you can come back to tell us it means we are supposed to follow in every detail from sleeping, walking, eating, etc., except perhaps the sunna of eating watermelon ? no joke and remember according to one of the sunni schools of thought (Maliki perhaps) they weren?t sure to cut it with a knife or bite, thus refused to eat watermelon.

Waiting for answers to my simple questions above you keep dodging.

Peace

Do you know the language of the Quran ie Arabic?
I have repeatedly asked ,which arabic word in the verse has been translated as "giving the book".You are telling me English words.
Tell me exactly the that "Arabic word" or leave the topic please.

I will definitely answer your questions but first clarify my confusion.

unknownuser

Peace all,

According to Lane Lexicon

A3LAMTUHU

I made known, or notified, or announced to him OR
I told him OR
I made him to know, or have knowledge of OR
I acquainted him with it OR
I told, informed, apprised, advertised, or certified, him of it OR
I gave him information, intelligence, notice, or advice, of it.

Thus it can mean GIVING knowledge, information etc.

Please see Ayn-Laam-Miim in PRL at http//www.studyquran.co.uk/PRLonline.htm

Leoxyz

Peace all,

According to Lane Lexicon

A3LAMTUHU

I made known, or notified, or announced to him OR
I told him OR
I made him to know, or have knowledge of OR
I acquainted him with it OR
I told, informed, apprised, advertised, or certified, him of it OR
I gave him information, intelligence, notice, or advice, of it.

Thus it can mean GIVING knowledge, information etc.

Please see Ayn-Laam-Miim in PRL at http//www.studyquran.co.uk/PRLonline.htm

Peace

I will talk about this root of (,, ) later.But the actual verse is as follows

Would you please let me know which "b^ab" of arabic this word " belong to?
Which properties of meaning does this b^ab carry ?
If you had known this, you would have consulted the dictionary correctly.

unknownuser

Do you know the language of the Quran ie Arabic?
I have repeatedly asked ,which arabic word in the verse has been translated as "giving the book".You are telling me English words.
Tell me exactly the that "Arabic word" or leave the topic please.
I will definitely answer your questions but first clarify my confusion.

The exact same as in below ?

WayuAAallimuhu alkitaba waalhikmata waalttawrata waal-injeela

348 And He teaches/instructs him The Book and the wisdom and the Torah and the Bible.

While you are talking about roots; perhaps explain how God taught per above verse?

Oh, started learning Arabic; therefore still prefer left-to-right and stuff like this is very difficult to see.

Take your time answering; perhaps by then I?ll be proficient enough to stay in Arnold?s topic. ;D

Leoxyz

The exact same as in below ?

WayuAAallimuhu alkitaba waalhikmata waalttawrata waal-injeela

348 And He teaches/instructs him The Book and the wisdom and the Torah and the Bible.

While you are talking about roots; perhaps explain how God taught per above verse?

Oh, started learning Arabic; therefore still prefer left-to-right and stuff like this is very difficult to see.

Take your time answering; perhaps by then I?ll be proficient enough to stay in Arnold?s topic. ;D

Peace
Let me know Are two actions

• To give a book to someone
To teach a book to someone

•

are synonymous actions ??

Mazhar

Dear Leoxyz,

The things are quite clear. Allah says that the Book has been sent upon "you people". You know and I know the Book was sent to the Last Messenger. It is thus evident that the Book was sent for "We the people". And Allah says follow the Book. What people say and attribute it the Last Messenger is no more than scud, non verifiable. Teaching the Book denotes nothing else but communicating what is written in the Book to other people. Hundreds of people kept asking the Messenger to tell them something other than Quran but he always refused to say anything other than Quran as is recorded in the Quran. If the Messenger said many things so that it could reach you and me through a chain of people, good and bad includud, why was he so reluctant to "teach" those people one or two things from himself?

Leoxyz

Dear Leoxyz,

The things are quite clear. Allah says that the Book has been sent upon "you people". You know and I know the Book was sent to the Last Messenger. It is thus evident that the Book was sent for "We the people". And Allah says follow the Book. What people say and attribute it the Last Messenger is no more than scud, non verifiable. Teaching the Book denotes nothing else but communicating what is written in the Book to other people. Hundreds of people kept asking the Messenger to tell them something other than Quran but he always refused to say anything other than Quran as is recorded in the Quran. If the Messenger said many things so that it could reach you and me through a chain of people, good and bad includud, why was he so reluctant to "teach" those people one or two things from himself?

Dear Brother ;
I have seen a common practice on this forum ,that people usually avoid the revalent question and start a thing which is not relevant.
My question was simple ,I repeat
Are the folowing two actions synonymous
1To give a book
2To teach/instruct a book
???????
If possible answer in "yes" or" no'

Mazhar

Yes, it is in many ways one and the same thing. It would be stupid on my part to hand over a book to someone about whom I know he cannot read the book. If you can't read a book in Japanese and I know it, and even then I give you a book saying it is an excellent book, you may feel I am making fun of you. I will read it to you its contents in the language you understand. You read out the book only to those who are listening to you in front of you. For the posterity you will leave the book in writing. Messengers taught people what they did not know earlier and that included his own person. It was to tell what is written in the Book revealed to him. There is a mention of our promise/agreement and that is only about the Book not about the so called teachings collected/compiled by people after unnecessarily roaming from city to city despite the fact that they knew that any one who decides in any matter and in any manner and other than what is sent in the Book is a Fasiq, Zalim and Kafir.

Leoxyz

Yes, it is in many ways one and the same thing. It would be stupid on my part to hand over a book to someone about whom I know he cannot read the book. If you can't read a book in Japanese and I know it, and even then I give you a book saying it is an excellent book, you may feel I am making fun of you. I will read it to you its contents in the language you understand. You read out the book only to those who are listening to you in front of you. For the posterity you will leave the book in writing. Messengers taught people what they did not know earlier and that included his own person. It was to tell what is written in the Book revealed to him. There is a mention of our promise/agreement and that is only about the Book not about the so called teachings collected/compiled by people after unnecessarily roaming from city to city despite the fact that they knew that any one who decides in any matter and in any manner and other than what is sent in the Book is a Fasiq, Zalim and Kafir.

If this is the condition of "Balagha" of the language ,honestly I have become dumb.
No comments except;
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unknownuser

Peace

Let me know Are two actions

• To give a book to someone
To teach a book to someone

•

are synonymous actions ??

Surah 72. The Jinn, Sprites

Say It has been revealed to me that a company of Jinns listened (to the Qur'an). They said, 'We have really heard a wonderful Recital!
'It gives guidance to the Right, and we have believed therein we shall not join (in worship) any (gods) with our Lord.

1035 Say "Of your 'partners' is there any that can give any guidance towards truth?" Say "It is Allah Who GIVES guidance towards truth, is then He Who GIVES guidance to truth more worthy to be followed, or he who finds not guidance (himself) unless he is guided? What then is the matter with you? How judge ye?"

If this is the condition of "Balagha" of the language ,honestly I have become dumb.
No comments except;
2156

http//www.islamicity.com/mosque/arabicscript/Ayat/3/3_20.htm

http//www.islamicity.com/mosque/arabicscript/Ayat/5/5_92.htm

http//www.islamicity.com/mosque/arabicscript/Ayat/5/5_99.htm

http//www.islamicity.com/mosque/arabicscript/Ayat/6/6_149.htm

http//www.islamicity.com/mosque/arabicscript/Ayat/13/13_40.htm

http//www.islamicity.com/mosque/arabicscript/Ayat/16/16_35.htm

http//www.islamicity.com/mosque/arabicscript/Ayat/16/16_82.htm

http//www.islamicity.com/mosque/arabicscript/Ayat/24/24_54.htm

http//www.islamicity.com/mosque/arabicscript/Ayat/29/29_18.htm

http//www.islamicity.com/mosque/arabicscript/Ayat/36/36_17.htm

http//www.islamicity.com/mosque/arabicscript/Ayat/42/42_48.htm

http//www.islamicity.com/mosque/arabicscript/Ayat/64/64_12.htm

Leoxyz

Peace

Surah 72. The Jinn, Sprites

Say It has been revealed to me that a company of Jinns listened (to the Qur'an). They said, 'We have really heard a wonderful Recital!
'It gives guidance to the Right, and we have believed therein we shall not join (in worship) any (gods) with our Lord.