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    ignoramus
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    salam brothers and sisters

    please excuse my ignorance, and for possibly being off-topic, but i wondered if someone would be kind enough to point me to any link or article or post which has a list of every verse mentioning al masjid la haram.

    i have searched already to no avail.

    thank you

    salam

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      Samia
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      peace
      Please give me the reference where "Muarraf Bilaam" words are used as "common nouns".

      Do you even know what 'common nouns' is? Or the difference between common nouns and indefinite? Or what is in opposition to common noun?

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        Leoxyz
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        Do you even know what 'common nouns' is? Or the difference between common nouns and indefinite? Or what is in opposition to common noun?

        So you are also of the opinion that "Muarraf bil laam "nouns are common nouns.??
        Very nice
        My Hands up

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          SwedenMajidah
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          salam brothers and sisters

          please excuse my ignorance, and for possibly being off-topic, but i wondered if someone would be kind enough to point me to any link or article or post which has a list of every verse mentioning al masjid la haram.

          i have searched already to no avail.

          thank you

          salam

          Peace,

          But a normal Quran browser must be able to help you or go to studyquran.com

          Majidah

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            SwedenMajidah
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            oops it should be www.studyquran.org

            Majidah

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              unknownuser
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              Salaam ignoramus,

              please excuse my ignorance, and for possibly being off-topic, but i wondered if someone would be kind enough to point me to any link or article or post which has a list of every verse mentioning al masjid la haram.

              i have searched already to no avail.

              Please see the following

              http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=13210.msg110854#msg110854

              My current understanding is that "al-masjid al-haraam" as used in al-qur'aan means "the inviolable institution of obedience". Please substitute this meaning for my older and incorrect understanding of "institution of hearing and obeying the forbidden" in the above referenced article.

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                ignoramus
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                salam

                thank you all for your links and help

                salam

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                  AaRoN
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                  god is the focus

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                    unknownuser
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                    Peace be upon you all,

                    God most certainly is the focus, however there is no proper IMAGE of "God" we can bring up in our minds, so what we need to do is to ALWAYS HOLD THE IMAGE OF GODLIKE BEHAVIOR" in our minds, always see our persons RESPONDING in the proper way to lifes events, no matter where we are in the world. No one has to travel anywhere to do that, we are all on equal playing field in that regard.

                    The masjid al haraam...sjd refers to submission and masjid is a place of submission....so masjid al haraam refers to he "place" where we submit to the restrictions(laws).

                    After pondering that for a long time I have come to realize that this is refering to the subconcious(nafs) which is where all laws are carried out. We are to always "face" this masjid because we should always be putting the proper seeds of behavor into this garden(salaat). We must guard our salaat(programming process).

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                      SwedenMajidah
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                      Peace be upon you all,

                      God most certainly is the focus, however there is no proper IMAGE of "God" we can bring up in our minds, so what we need to do is to ALWAYS HOLD THE IMAGE OF GODLIKE BEHAVIOR" in our minds, always see our persons RESPONDING in the proper way to lifes events, no matter where we are in the world. No one has to travel anywhere to do that, we are all on equal playing field in that regard.

                      The masjid al haraam...sjd refers to submission and masjid is a place of submission....so masjid al haraam refers to he "place" where we submit to the restrictions(laws).

                      After pondering that for a long time I have come to realize that this is refering to the subconcious(nafs) which is where all laws are carried out. We are to always "face" this masjid because we should always be putting the proper seeds of behavor into this garden(salaat). We must guard our salaat(programming process).

                      Peace,

                      Very well said Br Kyle.

                      Majidah

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                        ignoramus
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                        Peace be upon you all,

                        God most certainly is the focus, however there is no proper IMAGE of "God" we can bring up in our minds, so what we need to do is to ALWAYS HOLD THE IMAGE OF GODLIKE BEHAVIOR" in our minds, always see our persons RESPONDING in the proper way to lifes events, no matter where we are in the world. No one has to travel anywhere to do that, we are all on equal playing field in that regard.

                        The masjid al haraam...sjd refers to submission and masjid is a place of submission....so masjid al haraam refers to he "place" where we submit to the restrictions(laws).

                        After pondering that for a long time I have come to realize that this is refering to the subconcious(nafs) which is where all laws are carried out. We are to always "face" this masjid because we should always be putting the proper seeds of behavor into this garden(salaat). We must guard our salaat(programming process).

                        salam

                        unfortunately, your ponderings and imagination do not bring the rest of us any closer to Truth.

                        salam

                        addendum

                        salam brother Idolfree

                        sorry, my post sounds rude, i mean to say that you need to give us more information on how you come to form your opinions. for example, is it through reasoning, logic, divine inspiration etc.

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                          SwedenMajidah
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                          Peace,

                          Why you must say that ignoramus?

                          Alot of the advices in Quran is for spiritual needs and understandings and to grasp that we have each of us to dig deeper.

                          Majidah

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                            ignoramus
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                            Peace,

                            Why you must say that ignoramus?

                            Alot of the advices in Quran is for spiritual needs and understandings and to grasp that we have each of us to dig deeper.

                            Majidah

                            salam

                            sorry, i was not denegrating brother Idolfree's post. my point is that we need him to elaborate; at least for me, his post does not shed light on why he has his particular views on the subject.

                            i really am sorry, i will try to be more careful how i phrase things.

                            salam

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                              SwedenMajidah
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                              wa alaikum salam,

                              Oh ok, I thought that you was aware of his view but just wanted to look down on it. So I'm the one who should be sorry handshake

                              Peace
                              Majidah

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                                ignoramus
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                                wa alaikum salam,

                                Oh ok, I thought that you was aware of his view but just wanted to look down on it. So I'm the one who should be sorry handshake

                                Peace
                                Majidah

                                salam sister Majidah

                                i am really sorry; when i read my post, it did seem rude, although i did not mean it to be so.

                                i respect everyone's views.

                                brother Idolfree, please forgive me.

                                salam

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                                  Leoxyz
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                                  Salaam ignoramus,

                                  Please see the following

                                  http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=13210.msg110854#msg110854

                                  My current understanding is that "al-masjid al-haraam" as used in al-qur'aan means "the inviolable institution of obedience". Please substitute this meaning for my older and incorrect understanding of "institution of hearing and obeying the forbidden" in the above referenced article.

                                  Where is this instituition ??

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                                    ignoramus
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                                    Where is this instituition ??

                                    salam brother/sister

                                    if you read the link, you will see this institution does not have a physical location.

                                    brother Tanveer, sorry for replying to a question i think was directed at you.

                                    salam

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                                      AaRoN
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                                      "institution of marriage"

                                      google hits with that exact wording alone 558000 when i searched for it... that doesn't include alternate wordings which refer to the institution of marriage...

                                      now tell me, where is this institution?

                                      oh, can it be that linguistically speaking "institution" stands for an established system? oh wow amazing )

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                                        unknownuser
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                                        Salaam all,

                                        Thank you brothers for the excellent answers.

                                        I would like to add by quoting what al-qur'aan has to say about this

                                        2144

                                        2149

                                        Here The God clearly explains what "al-masjid al-haraam" is i.e. "al-haqqu min rabbika"/the truth from your Lord, and we are to face towards/orient ourselves to "al-haqqu min rabbika" WHEREVER we are.

                                        This post is directed to all readers and not to Leoxyz in particular, because so far he has refused to fulfil my request to him in an earlier post to contribute positively on this issue by sharing his understanding and knowledge about this issue.

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                                          ignoramus
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                                          salam brother Tanveer

                                          would you mind offering a fuller english translation of those verses please?

                                          thank you

                                          salam

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