Who is Zaid in this Aya??
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Come on guys! what is wrong with accepting Zaid as prophet Mohammad's(pbuh) son? If God did not want to take his name, could he not use the term, " When his adopted son was through with,,,,"
If the name is there in Quran, and it is being confirmed/verified through history as well , why are we insisting upon this being fictitious? and provide a chance to a very rational person (leoxyz) to be skeptical ?
siki
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Come on guys! what is wrong with accepting Zaid as prophet Mohammad's(pbuh) son? If God did not want to take his name, could he not use the term, " When his adopted son was through with,,,,"
If the name is there in Quran, and it is being confirmed/verified through history as well , why are we insisting upon this being fictitious? and provide a chance to a very rational person (leoxyz) to be skeptical ?
siki
Who is saying it is fictitious?
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Quote from Leoxyz on August 29, 2007, 052758 PM
Please anyone from Quranic source which is fully detailed.
I think you have just exposed the quranists. IF quran is fully detailed as falsely claimed by quranists then where is the biography of Zaid in quran??? {RasulHamza}Quote from RasulHamsa on August 29, 2007, 060459 PM
He was a messenger not a cook! please don't ask such question we have no answer for!
Dear
Deen = Quran + SunnaTo destroy sunna = Mock the Prophet + Reject his teachings
To Eliminate the Quran = Tamper its meanings so simple modus operandi{Leoxyz}
Neither the Grand Quran is inexplicit nor Deen is equivalent to the sum total of Quran +Sunna {here it is meant what is stated by a number of non Arab historians/collections of hearsays etc}. Quran has defined Deen as Millat Ibrahim, which the Last Messenger was advised to follow. The "Sunna" of the Last Messenger is the one recorded in Quran.
The Grand Quran {not the hadith quoted by someone} has unambiguously stated that Sydena Zaid was the adopted son {a son not born of him but known as son since by the utterance of his mouth he called him as his son}
?And We have not made whom you call with your tongues sons as your sons? {Refer 33{04}
The purpose of instructions to the Last Messenger to marry the divorced wife of Syedena Zahid whom he called as son has been explained in the verse
It has been the practice in time and space to adopt sons of others as sons. The Aziz of Misr had also told her wife about Yousaf alaihis Salam that we will make him our son. And then an incident has been quoted to bring home that calling the sons of others as your sons and placing them at home runs the risk/possibility of insult to the sanctity of relationships.
This time honoured practice could have been halted in the newly emerging muslim society only by the action of the Last Messenger.
Let us thank to Allah for this blessing and act of kindness. -
Greetings leoxyz,
The whole point that we're trying to make here, is that the DETAILS are not necessary!! That is what ties the message down and makes it RIGID! If it was important, God would have made it clear and unambiguous.
peace
You may not need the details but these are essential for a muslim.
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Any developments? Have we learnt how Zaid cooked pizza from the Quran? What surah is the recipe in?
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Any developments? Have we learnt how Zaid cooked pizza from the Quran? What surah is the recipe in?
To the real Deen ,History is equally important.
Evidence Quran has narrated the history of Prophets particularly that of Prophet Moses PBUH in detail.
And orders
3042
(3042) (O Prophet,) say to them, "Go about in the land and see what has been the end- of those who lived before (you). Most of them were mushriks (idolaters). * -
To the real Deen ,History is equally important.
Evidence Quran has narrated the history of Prophets particularly that of Prophet Moses PBUH in detail.
And orders
3042
(3042) (O Prophet,) say to them, "Go about in the land and see what has been the end- of those who lived before (you). Most of them were mushriks (idolaters). *Yes obviously; so what does that have to do with accepting hearsay as this?
http//www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/058.sbt.html#005.058.227
Volume 5, Book 58, Number 227
Narrated Abbas bin Malik
...When I came back to Moses, he said, 'What have you been ordered?' I replied, 'I have been ordered to observe five prayers a day.' He said, 'Your followers cannot bear five prayers a day, and no doubt, I have got an experience of the people before you, and I have tried my level best with Bani Israel, so go back to your Lord and ask for reduction to lessen your follower's burden.' I said, 'I have requested so much of my Lord that I feel ashamed, but I am satisfied now and surrender to Allah's Order.' When I left, I heard a voice saying, 'I have passed My Order and have lessened the burden of My Worshipers."
How do we go about and verify the above is true?
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To the real Deen ,History is equally important.
Evidence Quran has narrated the history of Prophets particularly that of Prophet Moses PBUH in detail.
And orders
3042
(3042) (O Prophet,) say to them, "Go about in the land and see what has been the end- of those who lived before (you). Most of them were mushriks (idolaters). *Correct. Though the Quran itself gave the example, which is what we need for guidance. Please differentiate.
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Dear friends
Who is Zaid in this Aya??3337
To my knowledge there is no zaid in the ayah at all.
And (remember) when (he) said to him ?you have received the grace of Allah and favour "Retain thou (in wedlock) thy wife, and fear Allah." But didst hide in the heart that which Allah was about to make manifest and didst fear the people, but Allah had better right that he should have feared Him. So when their desire to finally end the union increased We joined her in a new marriage tie in order that (in future) there may be no difficulty to the Believers in the wives yearning/cry, when the latter have dissolved with the necessary (formality) (their marriage) with them. And Allah's command must be fulfilled.
God Bless All.
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Neither the Grand Quran is inexplicit nor Deen is equivalent to the sum total of Quran +Sunna {here it is meant what is stated by a number of non Arab historians/collections of hearsays etc}. Quran has defined Deen as Millat Ibrahim, which the Last Messenger was advised to follow. The "Sunna" of the Last Messenger is the one recorded in Quran.
The Grand Quran {not the hadith quoted by someone} has unambiguously stated that Sydena Zaid was the adopted son {a son not born of him but known as son since by the utterance of his mouth he called him as his son}
?And We have not made whom you call with your tongues sons as your sons? {Refer 33{04}
ANOTHER PEARL OF TRANSLATION BY A QURANIST
Actual Aya
334
Sir ! Would you kindly tell me which words you have translated as "We have not made"
It will be a great help to learners like me.Mashallah and Subhanallah