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Is this fair to quote it ??

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    Leoxyz
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    Please go to the appropriate thread/s where these topics are discussed

    The appropriate question is what I put in the beginning.
    Why Quranists quote narrations when they do not beleive in them?
    Why this double standard ?
    I had provided the link in very first post of this thread

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      zenje
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      Leoxyz,

      Why are you asking members here about what happens in other websites?

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        Leoxyz
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        Leoxyz,

        Why are you usking members here about what happens in other websites?

        I agree with you.What I want they should condemn them should say openly that website is acting against Quran.
        As I condemn all those who Tamper ;
        1Quran '
        2Teachings of the Holy Prophet
        If they do not condemn it means "these are among them" .
        So simple.

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          Andya_Primanda
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          I agree with you.What I want they should condemn them should say openly that website is acting against Quran.
          As I condemn all those who Tamper ;
          1Quran '
          2Teachings of the Holy Prophet
          If they do not condemn it means "these are among them" .
          So simple.

          And who are you to tell us what to do?

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            zenje
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            Peace Leoxyz,

            I agree with you.What I want they should condemn them should say openly that website is acting against Quran.

            Okay then. Perhaps it's better you take it up with them, maybe write to them and ask them what's going on. By the way, just to inform you, there are other websites and groups who say they follow quran only, but they also adhere to some traditional hadith. Here, we have different members who follow different ways. As you may have noticed, there are even people who don't believe in God at all.

            I would suggest you keep this in mind, and don't go around 'condemning' people. You can give advice, you can give suggestions, you can discuss your beliefs, you can debate in a civil manner... but when you start accusing people, name-calling other members, etc... then we have a problem.

            I hope this is clear.

            PEACE be with you.

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              TheNabi
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              Peace Leoxyz

              The purpose of this site is to study the quran. It is not necessary here to be condemning other websites for their differences. Others have a right to believe or not what is condemned for a mumin is only that they disregard or not live up to the system of God.

              Joe

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                Leoxyz
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                Peace Leoxyz

                The purpose of this site is to study the quran. It is not necessary here to be condemning other websites for their differences. Others have a right to believe or not what is condemned for a mumin is only that they disregard or not live up to the system of God.

                Joe

                Then why condemning Bukhari ??
                Why double standard ?

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                  TheNabi
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                  Peace

                  If you bring up the subject then I would tell you I would not take Bukhari as a lens to interpret the quran. I would say that I have no problem in following any advice he may have which is in line with the quran. Otherwise I would not go about condemning you for adhering to his interpretations, or rather the interpretations he heard others say that Muhammad said.

                  Joe

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                    Leoxyz
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                    Peace

                    If you bring up the subject then I would tell you I would not take Bukhari as a lens to interpret the quran. I would say that I have no problem in following any advice he may have which is in line with the quran. Otherwise I would not go about condemning you for adhering to his interpretations, or rather the interpretations he heard others say that Muhammad said.

                    Joe

                    People have been condemning Bukhari here even the no topic is under discussion.
                    Don't you know this thing?

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                      Leoxyz
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                      And who are you to tell us what to do?

                      That is true.What did I ask you to do ?? I could not understand.Would you please let me know ??

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                        Andya_Primanda
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                        That is true.What did I ask you to do ?? I could not understand.Would you please let me know ??

                        You want us to condemn that site, no?

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                          Leoxyz
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                          You want us to condemn that site, no?

                          That is site which is Quranist.It is quoting Hadiths .
                          On one hand Quranist bash narration ,on the other hand quote them.
                          What is this ? double mouth ?? Licking one's own vomit ??
                          Can you label it ?

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                            Raj-ah
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                            Zenje

                            Leoxyz,

                            Why are you asking members here about what happens in other websites?

                            Is this that hard?

                            He is asking a simple question? The site of Ghulam Ahmed Pervez who rejected Hadith, is why quoting Hadith?

                            The first thing that comes to mind is that may be they have realized the truth.

                            Peace

                            If you bring up the subject then I would tell you I would not take Bukhari as a lens to interpret the quran. I would say that I have no problem in following any advice he may have which is in line with the quran. Otherwise I would not go about condemning you for adhering to his interpretations, or rather the interpretations he heard others say that Muhammad said.

                            Joe

                            But Joe, sorry to say that is not the official stand of your site, niether are the posts of main members supporting what your personal thought is.

                            1. Nadeem

                            2. Joe

                            3. Wakas

                            4. Idol free

                            5. Layth

                            6. Samia

                            7. Zenje

                            8. Savage-Carrot

                            These are the rankings of the MODerators I would assign in terms of being rational minded and Muslim minded.

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                              Samia
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                              Zenje

                              But Joe, sorry to say that is not the official stand of your site, niether are the posts of main members supporting what your personal thought is.

                              1. Nadeem

                              2. Joe

                              3. Wakas

                              4. Idol free

                              5. Layth

                              6. Samia

                              7. Zenje

                              8. Savage-Carrot

                              These are the rankings of the MODerators I would assign in terms of being rational minded and Muslim minded.

                              Starting with the most or the least rational ;D?

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                                Raj-ah
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                                Samia

                                Starting with the most or the least rational ?

                                Either way you are not at both ends ! !

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                                  zenje
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                                  Peace Ra-jah,

                                  Zenje
                                  Is this that hard?

                                  He is asking a simple question? The site of Ghulam Ahmed Pervez who rejected Hadith, is why quoting Hadith?

                                  The first thing that comes to mind is that may be they have realized the truth.
                                  I have no affiliation with Ghulam and neither do many of the members here. Does this make sense to you, that someone should come to www.free-minds.org and debate about http//www.toluislam.com/ like we had anything to do with it? And then on top of that, claiming "Quranists" have double standards? If you have a questions for "Ghulam Ahmed Pervez", shouldn't you be asking Ghulam Ahmed Pervez? Is this that hard? nope

                                  These are the rankings of the MODerators I would assign in terms of being rational minded and Muslim minded.

                                  Thank you for letting us know.

                                  Reminds me of ABs lists. ;D

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                                    Jack
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                                    Reminds me of ABs lists.

                                    Just a little D

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                                      Navid
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                                      Slam dunk

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                                        TheNabi
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                                        Peace

                                        People have been condemning Bukhari here even the no topic is under discussion.
                                        Don't you know this thing?

                                        I am aware. Bukhari to them is part of a negative part of their lives so there is obviously some abhorrence to his works. I have no problem with the people debating the wrongness of his works, but I do not condone insulting remarks about it or those who follow it.

                                        Joe

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                                          Leoxyz
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                                          Peace

                                          I am aware. Bukhari to them is part of a negative part of their lives so there is obviously some abhorrence to his works. I have no problem with the people debating the wrongness of his works, but I do not condone insulting remarks about it or those who follow it.

                                          Joe

                                          You can condemn Idara-e- Talue Islam in the same words as you condem Bukhari.
                                          Do not use different words

                                          Let us see how truthful you are

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