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Starjade Sura 4:82 challenges the whole of Islam.

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    I have met iris and know what she is like. You do not know and will regret thinking you could take her on in religious discussion. She is a prolific writer. more so than I am.

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      I have met iris and know what she is like. You do not know and will regret thinking you could take her on in religious discussion.

      I personally am not interested in take her on anything because I do not claim to be a scholar or whatever.

      She is a prolific writer. more so than I am.

      Seriously I do not know what to say here!

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        Iris was brought up as a Muslim but later converted to Christinaity. She is now an over 20 years Christian ordained minister. She has an in depth knowledge of all religions and you would find her overwhelming.

        If you want to meet her and test the water I will be happy to link her here. She at least can say what the Christians view on matters are. Of course she is painfully aware that I say Jesus is a fraud. But it is her choice if she refuses to accept the evidence. I still enjoy conversations with her dispite her silly Christian beliefs. She is still a very religious person and there is very little she will not know regarding Islam and Christinaity and Judaism and other religions. Trust me it is astonishing that one mind can hold so much knowledge.

        So do you want to meet her. Be warned other Muslims bit the Dust in their arguments with her. She is a powerful figure and she has been on the telly. So you would be talking to some one who is really famous.

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          So you do not like bragging eh? Well brags can come in all ways shapes and forms. I like to brag the brag as I am the Challenger and it is a good thing for me to cause teeth to gnash so as to bring those afraid to speak out of the shadows for that close encounter on matters they otherwise would consider to be taboo.

          Mind you it is well known the much loved Deuteronomy Doomsday prophet Starjade can brag the brag and walk the walk and talk the talk and all who come up against him are just bound to bite the Dust. It is called inevitability. eat rotfl

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            But i said the old testament is not from God then how i can believe that you are a prophet and not a liar.

            Starjade says; Clearly the Old testament was writ by man. But words within it are from God. Now if I was a liar then that would make me guilty of blasphemy. in case you do not know Blasphemy carries a death penalty a death by stoning. So I am putting my life on the line as this is no game I play I am very serious about these matters.

            Then I am accused and arrested and before the Lord thy God and the judges and Kings that shall be in those Times there will be diligent inquisition. And at the mouth of two or of three witnesses the matter shall be established if a crime of iniquity or sin has occurred.

            Here is the evidence I will then bring and call as witness testimony. Read it with care.
            http//www.geocities.com/end_of_times/chaptertwo.htm

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              Iris was brought up as a Muslim but later converted to Christinaity.

              Which is not relevant at all, if true in the first place. Many ministers converted to Islam, so quit the know-it-all attitude of yours.

              She is now an over 20 years Christian ordained minister. She has an in depth knowledge of all religions and you would find her overwhelming.

              Well if you consider her to be a bit more prolific than you, then I do not believe that to be "overwhelming".

              If you want to meet her and test the water I will be happy to link her here.

              I am not interested in meeting her as I do not consider myself a scholar, as I already told you.

              She at least can say what the Christians view on matters are. Of course she is painfully aware that I say Jesus is a fraud. But it is her choice if she refuses to accept the evidence. I still enjoy conversations with her dispite her silly Christian beliefs.

              You just contradicted yourself there.

              So you would be talking to some one who is really famous.

              Sorry, I have a meeting with Angelina Jolie.

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                Which is not relevant at all, if true in the first place. Many ministers converted to Islam, so quit the know-it-all attitude of yours.Well if you consider her to be a bit more prolific than you, then I do not believe that to be "overwhelming".I am not interested in meeting her as I do not consider myself a scholar, as I already told you.You just contradicted yourself there.Sorry, I have a meeting with Angelina Jolie.

                Starjade says; As a matter of fact I said she was brought up as a Muslim but then converted to Christianity. So she started as a Muslim ended up as a Christian and very confused after chatting with me.

                We are all scholars in some way shape or forum. Iris is an expert on the religions on this Planet. She can certainly write. Do not be misled by these few short conversations. Some of my replies can be over 30 ft long. On to a Muslim called saladinj as I like to call him, i took me three days to reply to. Its on the End of Times web site if you want a view in my conversations with the Muslims.

                Angelina Jolie isn?t all that. Bit on the tubby side if you ask me. Does that mean you are off to bed to dream the dreams.

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                  Starjade says; Oh I only showed a few contradictions as it was claimed there are none. Clearly there are. Why not examine the 21 errors in the Koran I have given links to. Then we shall see how clever you are.

                  http//www.geocities.com/end_of_times/surahfoureighthytwo.html

                  If you want conversations with a Christian Scolar who is also an expert on Islam and the Koran i can invite her here. She would be the Christian Minister iris. her religious knowledge would stagger you. Are you sure you want me to invite her to come and chat with you? Be warned she can and will eat you for breakfast. eat rotfl

                  I have read those. None of them are internal contradictions within the quran. Nice try, though. And here I was thinking that you 'weren't a novice'

                  Sure, if she actually knows of some internal contradictions within the quran, by all means bring her here.

                  Eat me for breakfast? Hmm true words of a prophet.

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                    Starjade says; As a matter of fact I said she was brought up as a Muslim but then converted to Christianity. So she started as a Muslim ended up as a Christian and very confused after chatting with me.

                    I do not have to believe in your story. And she does not really sound like a knowledgeable scholar from your posts.

                    We are all scholars in some way shape or forum. Iris is an expert on the religions on this Planet. She can certainly write. Do not be misled by these few short conversations. Some of my replies can be over 30 ft long. On to a Muslim called saladinj as I like to call him, i took me three days to reply to. Its on the End of Times web site if you want a view in my conversations with the Muslims.

                    I took you three days to write a reply?

                    Angelina Jolie isn?t all that. Bit on the tubby side if you ask me. Does that mean you are off to bed to dream the dreams.

                    No, I do not hold her in any regard, but she is more famous than your minister, is not she?

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                      Starjade says; The Christians New Testament and claims are false.

                      Peaceful mind you said; Good that some Christians are finally seeing the light.

                      Starjade says I am not a Christian and yes Christians are seeing the light after they read my Revelations.

                      The Koran could not exist nor could the claims of Muhammad exist without the Old Testament.

                      Peaceful mind you said; The Quran existed independently of any other scriptures. Rather silly of you to consider otherwise.

                      Starjade says; The claims of Muhammad are taken from the Old Testament. Most of the Koranic statements are about the Old and New Testament tales but re writ into Muhammad?s own views and words invalidating it as scripture.

                      As for my being a Prophet. I do not make claims I outright state that I can be established as being a genuine Prophet who does have a provable connection to the Living God. That fact by the way shows once again errors in the claims of Muhammad that stand against the actual word of the Living God and Gods Deuteronomy laws. Muhammad does not stand that high and once again is seen to be presumptuous to think he could speak in Gods name.

                      The evidence that can establish I am a genuine Prophet from the Living God is shown the other side of this link.

                      Peaceful mind you said; I hope someone is joking here.

                      Starjade says; Nobody is making any Joke I am serious about all of my statements. And I do not see anyone laughing. You are trying to defend the Koran from the Revelations of a Prophet from the Living God. Established as being such a prophet by Deuteronomy law. What is worse is that I am that long awaited Deuteronomy Chapter 18 verses 15/18 Prophet that the Living God promised Moses he would raise up in the midst of the Jews.

                      That in case you do not realise is the very prophet that both Jesus and Muhammad are claiming themselves to being without any evidence to support those claims. And I have Christianity and Islam by the short and curlies with my God given Revelations.

                      Also remind yourself after you grasp that Deuteronomy Chapter 19 verses 15 onwards law can establish who I am by that religious law that is the word of the Living God.

                      That the Living God only promised to raise up only one Prophet in the midst of those Jews. Did you not notice how my superior religious knowledge just shines on through. Eventually you will all see the light. Or be stoned to death in apocalyptic earthquakes.

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                        Did you not notice how my superior religious knowledge just shines on through

                        It's very hard to notice something that hasn't been demonstrated yet.

                        rotfl

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                          Starjade says I am not a Christian and yes Christians are seeing the light after they read my Revelations.

                          Good.

                          Starjade says; The claims of Muhammad are taken from the Old Testament. Most of the Koranic statements are about the Old and New Testament tales but re writ into Muhammad?s own views and words invalidating it as scripture.

                          Prophet Muhammed did not copy anything. Some stories are similar but that's because the three religions came from one God.

                          Starjade says; Nobody is making any Joke I am serious about all of my statements. And I do not see anyone laughing. You are trying to defend the Koran from the Revelations of a Prophet from the Living God. Established as being such a prophet by Deuteronomy law. What is worse is that I am that long awaited Deuteronomy Chapter 18 verses 15/18 Prophet that the Living God promised Moses he would raise up in the midst of the Jews.

                          That in case you do not realise is the very prophet that both Jesus and Muhammad are claiming themselves to being without any evidence to support those claims. And I have Christianity and Islam by the short and curlies with my God given Revelations.

                          Also remind yourself after you grasp that Deuteronomy Chapter 19 verses 15 onwards law can establish who I am by that religious law that is the word of the Living God.

                          That the Living God only promised to raise up only one Prophet in the midst of those Jews. Did you not notice how my superior religious knowledge just shines on through. Eventually you will all see the light. Or be stoned to death in apocalyptic earthquakes.

                          What are your signs of prophethood? Any miracles? How many follow you? You are a joke, you really cannot be serious.

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                            It's very hard to notice something that hasn't been demonstrated yet.

                            rotfl

                            Starjade says Oh come now OPF you Muslims here are already shirking the Sura 482 challenge and avoiding those errors that I mention exist in the Koran.

                            Glib replies just show what your charactor is. A real Muslim would have attempted to defend their religion or held a religious discussion with me. And the likes of you come on with one liners. Do you think that makes you important in the eyes of the congregations. Does it make you feel they will embrace you as their pal and free you from that lonely world you live in.?

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                              Starjade says I am not a Christian and yes Christians are seeing the light after they read my Revelations.

                              Peaceful Mind you say; Good.

                              Starjade says; Yeah and Muslims are getting the point as well.

                              Starjade says; The claims of Muhammad are taken from the Old Testament. Most of the Koranic statements are about the Old and New Testament tales but re writ into Muhammad?s own views and words invalidating it as scripture.

                              Peaceful Mind Prophet Muhammad did not copy anything. Some stories are similar but that's because the three religions came from one God.

                              Starjade says; Of course he stole his ideas and re wrote the text of the Old Testament and the New. That is obvious. The three religions are not the same the Christians believe Jesus is that Prophet that God promised Moses he would raise up in the midst of the Jews. The Muslims think Muhammad is that Prophet that God promised Moses he would raise up in the midst of the Jews. And the Jews already know that I have arrived. And that includes the Ishmaelite.

                              What is more the Jews claim they worship the Living God the Christians worship Jesus and the Muslims worship the Moon and Muhammad. I do not thing they follow the same God but the Muslims certainly do not follow the Living God.

                              Starjade says; Nobody is making any Joke I am serious about all of my statements. And I do not see anyone laughing. You are trying to defend the Koran from the Revelations of a Prophet from the Living God. Established as being such a prophet by Deuteronomy law. What is worse is that I am that long awaited Deuteronomy Chapter 18 verses 15/18 Prophet that the Living God promised Moses he would raise up in the midst of the Jews.

                              That in case you do not realise is the very prophet that both Jesus and Muhammad are claiming themselves to being without any evidence to support those claims. And I have Christianity and Islam by the short and curlies with my God given Revelations.

                              Also remind yourself after you grasp that Deuteronomy Chapter 19 verses 15 onwards law can establish who I am by that religious law that is the word of the Living God.

                              That the Living God only promised to raise up only one Prophet in the midst of those Jews. Did you not notice how my superior religious knowledge just shines on through. Eventually you will all see the light. Or be stoned to death in apocalyptic earthquakes.

                              Peaceful Mind What are your signs of prophethood? Any miracles? How many follow you? You are a joke, you really cannot be serious.

                              Starjade says; Seeing as you asked here are the many Prophesied signs in the heavens and trust me there are more I have not mentioned. http//www.geocities.com/end_of_times/chapterfour.htm

                              Then there is details of a Miracle I have already had a hand in right here on earth. http//www.geocities.com/end_of_times/chaptertwo.htm

                              It is only the Living God who has followers. I am simply the Living Gods Prophet. As for who should be following me. That is all the descendants of Abraham and some Alien residents.

                              Remind yourself Kuffar Peaceful Mind that already I have challenged islam and shown many errors and discrepancies that exist in the Koran. Be certain religion is not some game I play. However if you as a Muslim cannot defend the Koran then it is you who will seen as a Joke of sorts. rotfl

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                                Starjade says; As a matter of fact I said she was brought up as a Muslim but then converted to Christianity. So she started as a Muslim ended up as a Christian and very confused after chatting with me.

                                Peaceful mind you said; I do not have to believe in your story. And she does not really sound like a knowledgeable scholar from your posts.

                                Starjade says; You may believe what you want but if it is proven to be true then it is true no matter what you believe. Iris is very knowledgeable. Again however there is that contradiction because of the matter of Jesus. Her faith certainly got shattered by my Revelations.

                                We are all scholars in some way shape or forum. Iris is an expert on the religions on this Planet. She can certainly write. Do not be misled by these few short conversations. Some of my replies can be over 30 ft long. On to a Muslim called saladinj as I like to call him, i took me three days to reply to. Its on the End of Times web site if you want a view in my conversations with the Muslims.

                                Peaceful mind you said; It took you three days to write a reply?

                                Starjade says; Sometimes I have to bring evidence to the table and that can tax my Time. On another forum in the arguments of who adopted Moses the wife of the Pharaoh as it says in the Koran or the Daughter of the Pharaoh as it said in the Old Testament. That took about a week as I had then to study Egyptian history to find out the truth. The Koran was of course wrong it was the daughter of the Pharaoh who adopted Moses not the wife.

                                I hereby name this as yet another error found in the Koran regarding the Korans version of the adoption of Moses by as the Koran says the Pharaoh's wife (in sura 289). This story contradicts the Biblical Exodus 210 version, which states that it was Pharaoh's daughter who adopted Moses.

                                Let me explain these things to you as the list of errors found in the Koran accumulates beyond your ability to give any accounts.

                                Egyptian history proves the error exists in the Koran. The Daughter of the pharaoh Thutmoses 1 /Amenhotep 1 was Nefure Hatshepsut she was not married when she adopted Moses. She only became married when Moses killed the Egyptian and fled Egypt. Had Nefure Hatshepsut not married then the ruling Crown would have been passed onto another family. That is another error I have also named as existing in the Koran. However, the term Pharaoh is a Title and Thutmoses 1 /Amenhotep 1. was called Pharaoh but was only a co regent to Pharaoh Ahmosis who lived in Thebes in Memphis. The Pharaoh Ahmosis was the main ruler of Egypt and so Thutmoses 1 /Amenhotep 1. would only be the main ruling Pharaoh after the death of the Pharaoh Ahmosis.

                                Nefure was the only surviving daughter of Thutmoses 1 / Amenhotep 1. Nefure she convinced her father to make her little adopted child Moses his future heir. So Moses was set up to become the future King of all Egypt. Moses became known as Senmut which means mothers brother. It is a named derived from the tale of Osiris and Horus but I will not be talking about that. Historians studies show that Moses came to live in the palace at about 12 years Old about the same Time that his adopted Grandfather Thutmoses 1 / Amenhotep 1. Became main emperor over the whole of Egypt. At this Time they had moved from the palace at Memphis where the Co regent ruled and went to Thebes where the main Palace was.

                                At about the age of 18 Moses was designated the future heir apparent with his mother Nefure as his regent. She was now given the additional royal name of ?Hatshepsut? and was then referred to as Queen instead of princess. Once someone was designated as the future heir to the throne his inscriptions refer to him as ?King?. Moses was elevated to this position of heir apparent when he was 24 years old. When Moses became about 33 years old he was designated as being the Crown Prince and became known as Thutmoses 11. The numbers after the Egyptian Kings names are simply designations given to them by Egyptologists to identify each succeeding person of the same name. When Moses was 40 he killed an Egyptian and so as history claims Moses had to flee Egypt.

                                To prevent the loss of the Crown to another family Thutmoses 1 / Amenhotep 1. Who clearly was still alive otherwise Moses would have been crowned King Pharaoh. Thutmoses 1 / Amenhotep 1. married his daughter off to her younger half brother Thutmose who became called Thutmose the 11 and that was how Nefure Hatshepsut became married. So Egyptian history does prove the Koran is in error.
                                Starjade concludes. I had to wade through staggering amounts of Egyptian history to find the truth and it took me ages of studying Egyptian text. You see the Muslim argued was it possible that the daughter was also married to a pharaoh hence she could be the wife as it says in the Koran and the daughter as it says in the Old Testament. However, upon diligent inquisition it was found that Nefure Hatshepsut was not married at the Time she adopted Moses. You see I do look things up to be sure of what is true against what is not. The Koran was in error.

                                Do you Muslims and others note the lists of errors I name in the Koran and the beliefs of Muhammad are continually rising.

                                Angelina Jolie isn?t all that. Bit on the tubby side if you ask me. Does that mean you are off to bed to dream the dreams.

                                Peaceful mind you said; No, I do not hold her in any regard, but she is more famous than your minister, is not she?

                                Starjade laughs so now she is not going to be in your dreams eh? Being stood up in a dream is an ego shatterer. In Cyberspace iris is very well known. One could consider her in religious debates she is a predator with issues. rotfl muscle

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                                  Starjade says; Oh I only showed a few contradictions as it was claimed there are none. Clearly there are. Why not examine the 21 errors in the Koran I have given links to. Then we shall see how clever you are.

                                  http//www.geocities.com/end_of_times/surahfoureighthytwo.html

                                  If you want conversations with a Christian Scholar who is also an expert on Islam and the Koran i can invite her here. She would be the Christian Minister iris. her religious knowledge would stagger you. Are you sure you want me to invite her to come and chat with you? Be warned she can and will eat you for breakfast.

                                  Navid you said; I have read those. None of them are internal contradictions within the quran. Nice try, though. And here I was thinking that you 'weren't a novice'

                                  Starjade says; I am happy that you took Time out to read the 21 errors in the Koran by Starjade. Oh come now you are being rather nieve. Those 21 errors found in the Koran are really much more than 21 errors. I just tried to compact them. This matter of jesus for instance. Jesus is mentioned in 11 Chapters of the Koran. Why is that? Jesus claimed that he was the Prophet that God promised Moses he would raise up in the midst of the Jews.

                                  So 11 Chapters of the Koran glorify Jesus as being that Prophet that Jesus has claimed himself to being. And Muhammad believed that Jesus was who Jesus claimed himself to being. But Muhammad did not know Jesus claimed he was that Deuteronomy Prophet that God promised Moses he would raise up in the midst of the Jews.

                                  Now those facts reflect upon the whole of the Koran especially with the matter of the Sura 482 stating if errors are found in the Koran then that is the proof that the Koran does not come from God.

                                  In the first instance jesus is established as being a Fraud by Deuteronomy law. When diligently examined the so called testimonies of Mathew Luke Mark and John are hearsay statements. They were not a witness to the many things they proclaim. Especially the birth of Jesus. Hearsay is not fact. Deuteronomy law already established Jesus as being a fraud.

                                  So the Koran stands against Gods law and Gods word on that matter. Then this matter of the Koran speaking as if Jesus is genuine and the prophet of god Jesus claims to be is also reflecting badly on the Korans internal statements showing the Koran is not true.

                                  The reason why as every Muslim here knows is because the very Prophet that Muhammad has proclaimed himself to being is that Deuteronomy Prophet that the Living God promised Moses he would raise up in the midst of the Jews. That is why they call Muhammad the Prophet to the Nation. You see that long awaited Deuteronomy Prophet is the leader and King of the Jews after Moses as Gods representative here on earth.

                                  But Muhammad cannot proclaim that he is that Deuteronomy Prophet whiles he and 11 Chapters of the Koran promote Jesus as being the Prophet that Jesus claims himself to be because Jesus was claiming the he was that Deuteronomy Prophet over 1000 years before Muhammad was even born. That reflects very badly on the internal structure of the Koran and in the religious beliefs of Muhammad.

                                  The problem is that Muhammad did not know which Prophet it was that Jesus had proclaimed himself as being. Muhammad had several Christian wives and relatives and Christians always blasphemously yackle on about Jesus being the son of god. So they did not point out to Muhammad the reason they call Jesus the King of the Jews is because Jesus claims that he is the Prophet that God promised Moses he would raise up in the midst of the jews. Hence Muhammad unwittingly exposed himself to deceptions by proclaiming that he alone is that Prophet that God promised Moses he would raise up in the Midst of the Jews.

                                  As many Muslims here know that Muhammad has claimed he is that Prophet Moses spoke about then they can see the error of the 11 Chapters of the Koran glorifying Jesus as being the Prophet Jesus proclaimed himself as being because they all believe because of Muhammad that Muhammad is that very Prophet. To this day on many forums Muslims argue over this from thy brethren thingy to point out Ishmael was of their brethren and Muhammad is a descendant of Ishmael. They do this to show to the Israelites that is it Muhammad who is that Prophet to the denial of the Israelites. Now how can you delude yourself that these matters are not a reflection or internal contradictions of the Koran that promotes Muhammad as being the very same prophet that Jesus has already claimed he is. Use some common sense.

                                  Oh and do not forget that I am mentioned in those 21 errors found in the Koran as I am also a part of the equation that shows both Jesus and Muhammad are frauds.

                                  Navid you said; Sure, if she actually knows of some internal contradictions within the quran, by all means bring her here. Eat me for breakfast? Hmm true words of a prophet.

                                  Starjade laughs. Consider the invitation sent at my next visit to cyberspace. Iris is also well versed in the errors in the Koran and on Islamic history. Being an expert on Christianity, she can also give you insight into who the Christians see Jesus as being. I shall try hard not to cause her teeth to gnash on the issue of Jesus as I stand against all false Prophets as they are something detestable in the eyes of the living God as well as being presumptuous to think they could speak in Gods name.

                                  Her Christian point of view will show you that Christians believe Jesus is that long awaited Prophet that God promised Moses he would raise up in the midst of the Jews. Whiles you Muslims all believe that Muhammad is that long awaited Prophet that God promised Moses he would raise up in the midst of the Jews.

                                  Whiles all along the much loved Deuteronomy Doomsday Prophet Starjade is the only one amongst this entire planet of false prophets who can be established by Deuteronomy Chapter 19 verses 15 law to be that very specific Prophet that God promised Moses he would raise up in the midst of the Jews. Now that could be most interesting.

                                  Oh you do realise that I was first born in the Blackpool of Lancashire in the midst of all kinds of Jews don?t you. So I also grew up in the midst of the Jews. So that is also an interesting point that has also shattered the minds of religious scholars world wide who argue over this from thy brethren thingy. The Living God did not say he would raise up a Jew. He only said in the midst of the Jews and the Jews here in Blackpool are Ishmaelite and Israelite who are the brethren of all other Jews who ever lived.

                                  Do not forget in your distant arguments that I have already been established by the actual word of the Living God by Deuteronomy chapter 19 verses 15 law. And by the many signs in the heavens and by my own acts and deeds to being that long awaited Prophet that the Living God promised Moses he would raise up in the midst of the Jews. Therefore, in those arguments I shall be laughing so hard that my nose goo will be splattering across my computer screen.

                                  I can see my breakfast is being made as we speak. Too bad the only thing the rest of you will be eating is Dust. eat rotfl bravo

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                                    ...Still waiting for the contradictions...

                                    It's threads like these that actually strengthen my faith in the quran. Starjade goes on and on about how showing even ONE contradiction will invalidate the quran; true. Yet, he cannot even do this simple task, cannot present a single contradiction. So I thank you, Starjade.

                                    If your friend Iris knows of any contradictions, bring her here immediately, because you obviously do not.

                                    P.S. Lay off the shrooms bro

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                                      your webpage is so brutal

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                                        I personally think this starjade guy is suffering from some kind of mental disorder. -[

                                        Not one INTERNAL contradiction of the quran has been represented YET.

                                        Instead of promoting your site why not post a topic on here starting with your "supposed" contradiction of the quran and then we can discuss further.

                                        By the way using bible or any other source which isn't based on logic and reasoning would be illogical to refute contradictions within the Quran because then any mad man can make up a theory or pull history out of his ass and use it to make up a contradiction....it doesn't work like that starjade.

                                        Take time to study the subject your refuting and then bring an argument instead of blabbing nonsense history and circular arguments.

                                        PEACE

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                                          Navid you said; ...Still waiting for the contradictions...

                                          Starjade says I have already shown many errors in the Koran and in the belief of Muhammad right here. Others exist on conspiracy central where I invited you all to jopin to defend the Koran and the claims of Muhammad. Of course I see you are rather limited in religious knowledge as is apparent by your shirking of the errors found in the Koran right here on this forum.

                                          http//conspiracycentral.info/index.php?showtopic=14194&view=getnewpost

                                          Navid you said; It's threads like these that actually strengthen my faith in the quran. Starjade goes on and on about how showing even ONE contradiction will invalidate the quran; true. Yet, he cannot even do this simple task, cannot present a single contradiction. So I thank you, Starjade.

                                          Starjade says; The matter of Jesus being glorified in 11 Chapters of the Koran to being the Prophet that Jesus has proclaimed himself as being is a big contradiction in the Koran that is built to promote Muhammad as being the very Prophet that Muhammad and the Koran believe Jesus to be. Of course you avoid that controversy don?t you.

                                          Navid you said; If your friend Iris knows of any contradictions, bring her here immediately, because you obviously do not. P.S. Lay off the shrooms bro

                                          Starjade says; yes iris is well schooled in the errors found in the Koran. I have left her a message on her web site. That web site also has the Sura 482 challenge on it. And as per usual Muslims are too afraid to give accounts or defend the Koran from my Revelations.

                                          As you beg me to display some more errors and contradictions in the Koran for you hahahah to explain away then here is a few. Enjoy. Now you have no excuses if you shirk we will see you shirk. If you deny we will see you deny. Be wary what you wish for. Oh and do not think for a minute I am going to forget those 11 Chapters of the Koran glorifying Jesus as being the Prophet Jesus claimed himself to being especially as I see you ignore those errors in the Koran and beliefs of Muhammad. You cannot shirk away that easily. On those 11 Chapters of the Koran glorifying Jesus as being the Prophet jesus claimed himself as being be sure I am going to have the Koran and Muhammad and his foolish followers for breakfast. eat rotfl

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