Starjade Sura 4:82 challenges the whole of Islam.
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Hello again iris89,
I already well know the Quran, but some of you have almost no knowledge of the Bible such as one who writes under the French name of a pen.
No, you were exposed as a copy/paste chatterer and person who idolizes self pride of supposed knowledge.
Such as the silly question where he posted a bunch of apocrypha he cut/pasted from somewhere apparently without reading even what it was and asked why they were not included in the Bible...
I did post the link in an earlier thread?
Philippians is a letter written by Paul and reflects his opinion.
There are many early Christian writings/hearsays and opinions according to many?
http//www.earlychristianwritings.com/
These are like hadith; how do you determine from the over 150 which are TRUE and which are FALSE?
It was FACT that earlier Christians based their faith on many of these while only Mark, Luke, Matthew, and John were included ? why not according Mary, Thomas, Peter, etc? Who made emperor Constantine et al judge?
The numbers on the left are for an estimated range of dating.
30-60 Passion Narrative
40-80 Lost Sayings Gospel Q
50-90 Signs Gospel
50-95 Book of Hebrews
50-140 Gospel of Thomas
50-140 Oxyrhynchus 1224 Gospel
65-80 Gospel of Mark
70-120 Egerton Gospel
70-160 Gospel of Peter
70-160 Secret Mark
80-100 Gospel of Matthew
80-130 Gospel of Luke
80-150 Gospel of the Egyptians
80-150 Gospel of the Hebrews
90-120 Gospel of JohnI did read many of the above thoroughly many times and am a convert to Islam after reading Qur'an.
another equally silly post on the first part of Genesis which showed his complete lack of knowledge and that he had not read my previous post to him on the same subject.
What?s silly is your dancing around clear contradictions which you posted?
Quote from iris89
"He is unique by virtue of his being the only direct creation by Almighty God (YHWH), thus making him different from all others of God's (YHWH's) sons, allof whom were created or begotten by god (YHWH) through that firstborn Son, Jesus (Yeshua). "The above clearly contradicts the very first verse in the Bible.
http//scripturetext.com/genesis/1-1.htm
KJV In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.Term ?son of God? or ?servant of God? in Hebrew agrees with messenger in Islam?
http//scripturetext.com/exodus/4-22.htm
KJV ?Thus saith the LORD, Israel is my son, even my firstbornhttp//scripturetext.com/jeremiah/31-9.htm
KJV ?for I am a father to Israel, and Ephraim is my firstborn.http//scripturetext.com/psalms/2-7.htm
KJV ?the LORD hath said unto me (David), Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.Sorry to rattle you and remember ? the truth will set you free. angel
peace
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Peace,
I just want to say to all normal FM members, why are you still waste your time with troublemakers?
Ignore such people who just want to mock and they do not seems to fear God at all.
Maria
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Peace,
I just want to say to all normal FM members, why are you still waste your time with troublemakers?
Ignore such people who just want to mock and they do not seems to fear God at all.
Maria
Once in a red moon, we get something useful from them ;D
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I hear this starjade was banned from this forum and is on that conspiracy forum laughing at everyone who would not defend Islam. What kind of image does that show.
It is bragged that he and that iris do not know what they are talking about and yet i do not see on any of these pages any Muslims defending the Koran from the errors that he has displayed. So he won the challenge unless a Muslim can give accounts for those errors. I am at a loss as to what to say.
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I hear this starjade was banned from this forum and is on that conspiracy forum laughing at everyone who would not defend Islam. What kind of image does that show.
It is bragged that he and that iris do not know what they are talking about and yet i do not see on any of these pages any Muslims defending the Koran from the errors that he has displayed. So he won the challenge unless a Muslim can give accounts for those errors. I am at a loss as to what to say.
What were those errors again?
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I hear this starjade was banned from this forum and is on that conspiracy forum laughing at everyone who would not defend Islam. What kind of image does that show.
It is bragged that he and that iris do not know what they are talking about and yet i do not see on any of these pages any Muslims defending the Koran from the errors that he has displayed. So he won the challenge unless a Muslim can give accounts for those errors. I am at a loss as to what to say.
I adressed a single segment of the several volumes of nonsense posted by Starjade and did not get a reply for 6 pages.
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I hear this starjade was banned from this forum and is on that conspiracy forum laughing at everyone who would not defend Islam. What kind of image does that show.
It is bragged that he and that iris do not know what they are talking about and yet i do not see on any of these pages any Muslims defending the Koran from the errors that he has displayed. So he won the challenge unless a Muslim can give accounts for those errors. I am at a loss as to what to say.
I am not sure if anybody on the forum would know but is iris still an active member of the forum? if not, could someone please point me out to where I can get in touch with her? I have a question for her regarding one of her posts. Thanks in advance.
Peace
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I am not sure if anybody on the forum would know but is iris still an active member of the forum? if not, could someone please point me out to where I can get in touch with her? I have a question for her regarding one of her posts. Thanks in advance.
Peace
You can either
1- Post your question here and hope she might read it AND answer you.
2- Click on her name and send her a PM, hoping she reads it.
3- Click on her name to go to her own forum (there is a link to it) and post your question, hoping it wont be deleted.
4- Save your time for better things -
Salam All,
Starjade apparently thinks he/she? is a prophet..wow..can you see how impressed I am? whatever
Check this out
http//www.geocities.com/kethers_crown/respondingtoroz.html
And starjade quote says I am the End of Times Prophet that the Living God Promised Moses he would raise up nearer to the End of Times when a great Cataclysm would devastate this Planet causing the extinction of the species. I was once intent on saving as many people and animals as was possible. But a chain of events has occurred that is now preventing my doing that. Roz is a Christian and objects to my statements regarding the false Prophet Jesus and my Judgements on the Christians specifically Roman Catholic Christians and Church of England Christians.
I am worried for you Starjade, lying about being a prophet is pure blasmephy. You will have the worst time in hell more than any other soul there. Claiming to be a prophet is no worse than claiming to be god.
Can you tell me why we should beleive you to be a prophet would choose to convince people, by choosing to post such c*** for tales, and instead of showing divine power, choose to initiate ego conversation?
I pity you. You may be articulate and you may be motivated, but you reveal nothing divine to prove your prophethood.
Honor
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You can either
1- Post your question here and hope she might read it AND answer you.
2- Click on her name and send her a PM, hoping she reads it.
3- Click on her name to go to her own forum (there is a link to it) and post your question, hoping it wont be deleted.
4- Save your time for better thingsSamia,
Ha ha... thanks for the word of advice. Call me stubborn but I am just curious. (P.S. and yes... I do know what happened to the cat).
Peace and thanks again
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I hear this starjade was banned from this forum and is on that conspiracy forum laughing at everyone who would not defend Islam. What kind of image does that show.
It is bragged that he and that iris do not know what they are talking about and yet i do not see on any of these pages any Muslims defending the Koran from the errors that he has displayed. So he won the challenge unless a Muslim can give accounts for those errors. I am at a loss as to what to say.
Peace,
How can you say he won the challenge?
I thought that no one here was ever willing to face his ridiculous challenge from the very start, he exposed himself from the beginning .
And does Al-Quran really need to be protected and defended when God is the one who do that!?
Remember, we shall not worship the Quran but use it for guidence and if people like starjade and iris don't see it as a guidline, well it's most sorry for themselves don't you think.Maria
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This starjade character is the funniest thing ever, and he's not alone, the totally idiotic "logic" used to try and refute the Quran goes as such
Muslim says We consider the New and the old testament to be corrupt and not truly the words of God.
Starjade I can prove to you that Quran is not from God.
Muslim Ok prove it.
Starjade The bible says mary was daughter of this person and mother of that person, hence Quran is false.
Muslim What? Didn't I say we don't believe in your scriptures? So how can you prove our scriptures as false by quoting from your own false scriptures. brickwall
Starjade I can use such circular reasoning because i'm the Prophet of the living god.
Muslim OKKK whatever -
Well... i just read some material on logical fallacies, and it's quite amusing seeing how people debate. How do you guys maintain your patiens with characters like Starjade and Iris? Isn't life too short for such time-wasters..?...
One skill that one should refine is the one in determining in shortest amount of time whether a debater is serious or not, and leaving the debate, without missing out on any good arguments...
Was Starjade banned?
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I am not sure if anybody on the forum would know but is iris still an active member of the forum? if not, could someone please point me out to where I can get in touch with her? I have a question for her regarding one of her posts. Thanks in advance.
Peace
As matter of fact Dargento; Iris was one of those over 20 years Christian ordained ministers who went up against Starjade attempting to defend Christianity and Jesus from Starjades revelations. I read their arguments on the inner space station. phew that was deep. So they both have an interest in islam and other religions but they are hardly tag teams. Starjade also condemns Christianity as well as Islam and has established that both religions are false.
Starjade has discovered many errors in the Koran but as Muslims we can ignore those errors anyway, after all what can it matter. I have been investigating Starjade and his so called revelations. He is writing on a conspiracy central forum in a sura 482 thread over 30 pages long with almost 4000 readers. So was it wise to ban him from speaking on this forum as it only fuels his anger. Too late now of course as he is unleashed.
If you wanted to speak with him he did invite you all to defend islam from his revelations and you shirked as he puts it. http//conspiracycentral.info/index.php?showtopic=10304&st=580
It has been known for centuries that errors do exist in the Koran but it does not matter as long as we Muslims feel good about our selves then what can a few lies and deceit matter. After all the Koran promotes well being among muslims and so even if these errors are un answerable it should not matter. What does any Muslim care. The Sura 482 is a part of the Koran but clearly it is a meaningless sura of no importance to islam and just as insignificant as the Islamic law that Starjade invokes on the very first page. We can ignore that Islamic law because we are Muslim and we can ignore the Sura 482 of the Koran because we are Muslims. Who cares what the rest of the world thinks.
As for Starjade. Well he certainly has a lot of followers listening to him speak of those errors that exist in the Koran but as long as he does not come here speaking to all of us about those errors in the Koran then what do we care eh. What harm can that do. It seems a few people here in a minority perhaps want to continue conversations with Starjade. I wonder why would you want to know about those errors found in the Koran when you can blissfully follow the Koran in ignorance,
As for Iris she also was banned from this forum. I saw she was invited here to speak then banned. We as Muslims cannot allow such freedom of speech from religious scholars who must bow down to islam and the Koran. We as Muslims do not care about those errors found in the Koran. We have always known about them so what. And Islamic law isn?t something we have to follow if we do not want to because we are Muslim.
Iris can be found on these forums if you want to continue your conversations.
http//p197.ezboard.com/InnerSpace-Station-/ffreedomofspeechfrm5
http//examining-doctrines.com/forums/index.php?s=75c41cc94a98f790480dd2a650a5967f&showtopic=303&pid=1860&st=30#entry1860
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It is just as well that Starjade did get banned after all we as Muslims were powerless against his Revelations. He did outright show exactly where those errors exist in the Koran and he also had many more he could have shown. This matter of Jesus is a problem that no Muslim can give answers for. I have been checking on those errors in the Koran and they do exist just as Starjade says; But we as Muslims can ignore those errors after all reading the Koran makes us feel good anyway.
Starjade put all Muslims on this forum on the spot and now he is still at it on other forums. Out of control. So he had to be banned when no Muslim could respond to those errors he has found in the Koran. Starjade himself did say in his writing that he knew the moderators would ban him because they had no choice but to shirk the challenge to which they were powerless to reply. Starjade has won that Sura 482 challenge but we are Muslim and so we can ignore those errors if we want to. Otherwise some other muslim may come along and kill you for deserting Islam no matter what Islamic law says. RIGHT... yeah