Do animals have soul?
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Peace,
I don't know that 100% for sure. But I see this place as a test and everything we have for our living is also a test.
Everything we can use for our life to impove our life is a tool but the test is to be grateful of what we have got and to avoid evil.
Even if animals are tools, you must treat the tools with care, God doesn't like the spoiled and they who are arrogant and walk proud on earth only because we are more intelligent we must act as we are more intelligent.The defining difference between humans and animals are the intelligence and God mentions that apes and donkeys are not something to compare yourself with. And it must laid down in the intelligence what else. And Donkeys are seen to be stubborn and have also an ugly sound. This is in Quran.
That makes us humans is that we have a concious mind and we care for the weak. So if we give birth to a child who is ill in some kind or have down syndrom, we don't consider to kill the child.
But in the animal world, they often leave offsprings that is not strong enough, not elephants I guess but many other species does.
I don't see tools as something negative, I can also see that human use other human as tools sometimes.If you have the respect the it's not a problem.
Maria
peace Maria,
I'd pretty much repeat what amuslim has already said, but I want to address something specific...
Intelligence CANNOT be the defining factor between humans and animals.
Infants are not as intelligent as some animals, does that mean we treat them like animals?
What about mentally retarded individuals, should we use them as tools too?
You're right, we don't treat other humans, no matter how low their intelligence is, like tools.
But I guess it depends on what you mean by "tools."
I don't agree with you that the world was made for us, but as long as we're on the same page about treating animals with kindness... -
Peace,
From Samia, see previous page
The quraan mentioned animals. Did it mean "animals included" when it said that whoever kills a "nafs" is like killing the whole world/animal kingdom?
Here's an excellent analysis of Nafs by Brother Symtacs
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=7783.0
Couldn't tell you how I found it, but it's an absolute gem. I nominate it for an article (get it done Zenje!), I would be interested in your opinion(s) on it.
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Peace Imran,
Here's an excellent analysis of Nafs by Brother Symtacs
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=7783.0
Couldn't tell you how I found it, but it's an absolute gem. I nominate it for an article (get it done Zenje!), I would be interested in your opinion(s) on it.
Nice find, bro. We certainly miss symtacs' input here. I agree it should be posted as an article.
peace
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Peace "tony",
Maybe the better question would be Do animals have life after death in Paradise or Hell?
JK- I believe only if they have developed a conscience i.e. "nafs". Note also that in scientific classification we as living beings also fall under the main category of animals. GOD Bless!
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Peace "tony",
JK- I believe only if they have developed a conscience i.e. "nafs". Note also that in scientific classification we as living beings also fall under the main category of animals. GOD Bless!
Mountains have emotions or 'conscience'. Why not animals?
33 72. We have offered the trust to the heavens and the earth, and the mountains, but they refused to bear it, and were fearful of it. But the human being accepted it; he was transgressing, ignorant.
Animals do have 'nafs'.
2718 Until they came to a valley of ants, an ant said O ants, enter your homes else you will be crushed by Solomon and his soldiers while they do not notice.
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Mountains have emotions or 'conscience'. Why not animals?
33 72. We have offered the trust to the heavens and the earth, and the mountains, but they refused to bear it, and were fearful of it. But the human being accepted it; he was transgressing, ignorant.
Animals do have 'nafs'.
2718 Until they came to a valley of ants, an ant said ?O ants, enter your homes else you will be crushed by Solomon and his soldiers while they do not notice.?
No, mountains don't have emotions or consciousness. Personification is common in the quran but look at who the mountains are 'talking' to, God and none else.
On the other hand, animals do have rather sophisticated communicaton.
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No, mountains don't have emotions or consciousness. Personification is common in the quran but look at who the mountains are 'talking' to, God and none else.
On the other hand, animals do have rather sophisticated communicaton.
How do you know about the mountains? How do you know that is mere personification?
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How do you know about the mountains? How do you know that is mere personification?
Because when I flew over the mountain, I don't remember it striking up a conversation about the weather.
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Peace "tony",
Because you're not God thats why.
JK- I believe your repeating what bro "OPF" has just said. read his post again. He says they are "talking" i.e. communicating with GOD and hence in a unique way, id say on the quantum level everything including the very elementary particles continuously communicate with GOD but what should be obvious is that thats not what defines consciousness which is a unique attribute which is perhaps most well defined per self recognition and tool development capability. Hence many apes could be considered conscious but not all animals. GOD Bless!