The Dead Sea Scrolls
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http//www.followtherabbi.com/Brix?pageID=1801
http//www.followtherabbi.com/Brix?pageID=1799
"Dead Sea Scrolls
The Essenes did a tremendous amount of writing. They wrote about their theology, their religious practices, and their expectations of the coming Messiah and a new age. Essene scribes put the Hebrew Testament in writing, and they developed commentaries about several portions of the Text.The Essenes hid their scrolls in Qumran?s caves, perhaps to protect them from the Roman army. Found in 1947, these scrolls have revolutionized the study of Scripture. They provide the oldest copies of the Old Testament ever found. And they give a valuable glimpse into the religious philosophies and practices of Jesus? time.
Most significantly, the Dead Sea Scrolls confirmed the accuracy of the Text. Before they were discovered, the oldest copies of Scripture dated back to approximately AD 1000. Remarkably, few distinctions exist between these copies and the Dead Sea Scrolls, despite the fact that they were written centuries apart.
Though God?s people trust the inspired words of the Bible by faith, the scrolls have confirmed that our faith in the Text is well-founded. God has preserved the integrity of his Word through generation after generation."
The above is about the Old Testament and Dead Sea Scrolls connection.
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Salaam,
Many pieces of the documents are still hidden by the Catholic Church. But we have many important pieces. I recommend the book called "The Magdelene Heritage" by Laurence Gardner. He explains the Nazerene life in a very interesting way and you will see how it coincides with the Quran in many ways.
As far as I know, they were found in Jordan in 1948 and kept by the Jordanian government in East Jerusalem (then Jordanian) until the 1967 6-day war when Jerusalem fell to the Israelis. They belong now to the Israeli government. How did the Catholic Church have access to them?
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See
http//www.amazon.com/Dead-Scrolls-Deception-Michael-Baigent/dp/0671797972/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1199367505&sr=1-5
http//www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0671797972/ref=sib_dp_pt/002-3485564-7317664#reader-link
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The Essenes who were believed to be the authors of the Scrolls were a sect of Judism and probably as similar to Christians as the Quran only, Sunni, s***es, etc. are.
John the Baptist was a Essenes before he left to prepare the way for Jesus.
Wasn't the gospel of St. Thomas found in Eygpt? Too bad some books were lost in a fire.
"The introduction also says, "These are the secret sayings that the living Jesus spoke..." By using the word "secret" the author is telling you that these sayings are not for everyone's ears. These are the secret teachings that are only for a special chosen few - the solitary elect or monachos in Greek (which is where we get the word "Monk" from). Furthermore, they are the "secret" teachings of the "living Jesus." The term living Jesus is to distinguish the dualism of the mortal man - Jesus of Nazareth - and the immortal divine being living inside him. The living Jesus would be a pre-existent godly being conceptually similar to the Logos in the Gospel of John."
LOL!! Daud-19 You sure do watch alot of movies - Stigmata.
Wikipedia
"The plot of the 1999 Hollywood film Stigmata revolves around a cover-up within the Roman Catholic Church of an unnamed lost "Gospel" (that is revealed at the end of the film to be based upon the real-life Gospel of St. Thomas), whose teachings of the immanence of God are profoundly threatening to the church hierarchy." -
The Essenes who were believed to be the authors of the Scrolls were a sect of Judism and probably as similar to Christians as the Quran only, Sunni, s***es, etc. are.
John the Baptist was a Essenes before he left to prepare the way for Jesus.
Wasn't the gospel of St. Thomas found in Eygpt? Too bad some books were lost in a fire.
"The introduction also says, "These are the secret sayings that the living Jesus spoke..." By using the word "secret" the author is telling you that these sayings are not for everyone's ears. These are the secret teachings that are only for a special chosen few - the solitary elect or monachos in Greek (which is where we get the word "Monk" from). Furthermore, they are the "secret" teachings of the "living Jesus." The term living Jesus is to distinguish the dualism of the mortal man - Jesus of Nazareth - and the immortal divine being living inside him. The living Jesus would be a pre-existent godly being conceptually similar to the Logos in the Gospel of John."
LOL!! Daud-19 You sure do watch alot of movies - Stigmata.
Wikipedia
"The plot of the 1999 Hollywood film Stigmata revolves around a cover-up within the Roman Catholic Church of an unnamed lost "Gospel" (that is revealed at the end of the film to be based upon the real-life Gospel of St. Thomas), whose teachings of the immanence of God are profoundly threatening to the church hierarchy."Yup, movies are my thing...
Yes you are right the Gospel of Thomas was found in Egypt when that kid threw the rock and it broke the vase in the cave..
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Peace Farida,
What is Quranist opinion regarding the Dead Sea Scrolls and if there is any connection to number 19 there?
I am certain that like all books ever written, the Dead Sea Scrolls have a Code 19 in them. For example, I am absolutely sure that using the Code 19 methodology, the number of occurences of the word "god" in the scrolls is divisible by 19. If the count initially doesn't add up, you may have to remove a couple of scrolls to get the result, which of course is no problem.
Peace,
Ayman
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Peace Farida,
I am certain that like all books ever written, the Dead Sea Scrolls have a Code 19 in them. For example, I am absolutely sure that using the Code 19 methodology, the number of occurences of the word "god" in the scrolls is divisible by 19. If the count initially doesn't add up, you may have to remove a couple of scrolls to get the result, which of course is no problem.
Peace,
Ayman
Salaam Ayman
To work out code-19 first we need access to DSS, sadly it is tucked away in a museum in Israel. I am sure it would an eyeopener to study it properly.
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Salaam Ayman
To work out code-19 first we need access to DSS, sadly it is tucked away in a museum in Israel. I am sure it would an eyeopener to study it properly.
peaceWhat he meant was that a "Code 19" can be found in any old text. Such as the US Declaration of Independence
http//www.nmsr.org/code19.htm
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What he meant was that a "Code 19" can be found in any old text. Such as the US Declaration of Independence
http//www.nmsr.org/code19.htm
Thanks for the link; BTW I was never keen on code-19 I used it above to debate about DSS; what I actually want is access to DSS so that Ayman & other learned ones can review it.
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For the sake of religious freedom and clarity, sure, but how would the DSS really affect our understanding of the quran?