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    TheNabi
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    Peace Kaiwai

    And again, that is YOUR interpretation.

    According to the quran who is to get married?

    May I suggest that you stop being so arrogant.

    I might suggest that you take it easy there. The quran has currents of thought that should not be deviated from.

    Joe

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      Lost_Philosopher
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      Yes but for some strange reason it attracts people who don't even want to follow it brickwall

      Ironic, isn't it? lol

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        Fadhli
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        Ok how bout this,

        God had designed us to be attracted to the other sex it's the most natural. But because of the precious free will thing the we got. We are free to do what we want. We can easily be influenced by others if we're not reflecting to the guidance that had been given. Yet we have been told that God don't want us to go against the nature of us human, to go with the same sex (Up to the level of lewdness). So it the end, it's still up to you. Nobody can change it. Whether you want to be thankful and try to find a way to change that current unnatural feeling, or you just forget about what the Creator had told you and do what your lust tells you. If you sincerely ask God i bet he'll show you the way. Don't need to ask us. Its your choice at the end. Remember, stubbornness and lust is among the Ego Group of Companies Ltd. >D. Just don't sell your soul to them. Take it as a test. No fear bro.

        Peace.

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          ammarb87
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          AOA guys

          I am happy to see a lot of people took time out to reply to this topic .. I think homosexuality is a sin!
          I know I did something wrong and I am repenting!

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            Alen
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            Salam,
            Respectfully.

            Homosexuality is a sin, yes, good thing you can see that, which means God is testing you and i believe you are being guided right. Everything we do, say, hear, think, is a test, how will we react, what will we do, say or make of it.

            We are test to each other.

            Even this forum is a test.
            Everything is a test and if we pass, God The Most Powerful rewards us,
            if we fail, God the Most High will punish us.

            We must always think, we must always verify everything, we must always think about the future.

            What does Lea Thompson say to Marty McFly in Back To The Future "I hope you're considering the future, mr., Eastwod."
            Marty McFly"I think about it all the time."

            All the time.

            May God gives you strength, brother.
            I will pray for you.
            But you must pray for yourself first.

            Remember good deeds erase the bad deeds.

            Peace.

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              jankren
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              The world is experiencing an overpopulation right now so I think there is actually a benefit out of homosexuality after all. LOL

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                phoenix1
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                Homosexuality is not wrong because it doesn't harm anyone. It is morally acceptable.

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                  TheNabi
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                  Peace

                  One may adhere to the practice but it is not one the quran condones. So you cannot be a believer and be a homosexual.

                  Joe

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                    unknownuser
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                    Homosexuality is not wrong because it doesn't harm anyone. It is morally acceptable.

                    Actually, it does do harm, if we're going to be explicit. A lot of people carry the HIV virus without knowing it, for starters, and if I remember correctly it typically resides in the anal canal, and most bodily fluids. Regardless of that, penetration does actually weaken the lining and will more or less open the way for STDs to be transmitted.

                    Promiscuity does definitely harm people, there is no way out of that. And it is morally reproachable.

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                      IronSky
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                      Peace to all,

                      Lobster, i hope your joking, so if something doesnt actually harm anyone then its ok, is that your standard.

                      K

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                        jankren
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                        Promiscuity does definitely harm people, there is no way out of that. And it is morally reproachable.

                        As if promiscuity was exclusive to homosexuals which is not true.

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                          phoenix1
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                          Actually, it does do harm, if we're going to be explicit. A lot of people carry the HIV virus without knowing it, for starters, and if I remember correctly it typically resides in the anal canal, and most bodily fluids. Regardless of that, penetration does actually weaken the lining and will more or less open the way for STDs to be transmitted.

                          Promiscuity does definitely harm people, there is no way out of that. And it is morally reproachable.

                          I'm talking about homosexuality, not promiscuity. Heterosexuals can have anal sex as well.

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                            phoenix1
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                            Peace to all,

                            Lobster, i hope your joking, so if something doesnt actually harm anyone then its ok, is that your standard.

                            K

                            How do you decide if something is wrong or acceptable or right? If no one is harmed, how is an action (or inaction) wrong?

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                              IronSky
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                              Peace,

                              oh i dont know lobster, lets say i drug a woman and she goes unconscious and I rape her, im very gentle and even use protection, she wakes up unaware it even happened, so is it wrong?

                              KUrt

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                                phoenix1
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                                Yes. Forcing your will upon someone, which means taking away their free will, is included in what I called "harm." You can't do something to others what you wouldn't want happening to you.

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                                  AlFajr
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                                  Peace Lobstor

                                  2371 And if the truth were to follow their desires, then the heavens and the Earth and all who are in them would have been corrupted. No, We have come to them with their reminder, but from their reminder they are turning away.

                                  Everyone wants different things. So that argument doesn't hold weight in reality. Only if everyone were clones would you be able to base morality on that rule.

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                                    phoenix1
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                                    No, as a personal rule, you shouldn't do things to other you don't want others doing to you. If I don't want people lying to me, I try not to do that to others. It doesn't mean lying is always wrong, and I'm not basing morality on this rule, but it works if people follow it.
                                    Morality is very complicated, and I guess a simple way to put it would be that you SHOULD do the things that benefit people the most, and avoid doing the things that harm people.

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                                      AlFajr
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                                      No, as a personal rule, you shouldn't do things to other you don't want others doing to you. If I don't want people lying to me, I try not to do that to others. It doesn't mean lying is always wrong, and I'm not basing morality on this rule, but it works if people follow it.
                                      Morality is very complicated, and I guess a simple way to put it would be that you SHOULD do the things that benefit people the most, and avoid doing the things that harm people.

                                      Peace Lobster,
                                      I get where your coming from. Consider this... even pedophiles justify their acts (they say that the children where seducing them!). And they don't think it is harming anyone. They believe it is benefiting them as well as the child. Not all people are rational and have good moral standards and people can justify almost anything they want. But the reality is if the universe were run by people or chance, chaos would ensue. Think about this, if 1 million chimpanzees were mixing chemicals over the course of a billion years, could they create anything let alone the universe? How then can such a complex thing as the universe arise if it were the work of many powers all desiring different outcomes? The only way is if it follows 1 law. So if the universe follows the law of the creator, why don't we humans have to? Especially when guidance has come down to us

                                      482 Do they not reflect on the Qur'an? If it was from any other than God they would have found it very different.

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                                        Katara
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                                        Morality is very complicated, and I guess a simple way to put it would be that you SHOULD do the things that benefit people the most, and avoid doing the things that harm people.

                                        But what's "benefit" and what is "harm?"

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                                          phoenix1
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                                          Peace Lobster,
                                          I get where your coming from. Consider this... even pedophiles justify their acts (they say that the children where seducing them!). And they don't think it is harming anyone. They believe it is benefiting them as well as the child. Not all people are rational and have good moral standards and people can justify almost anything they want. But the reality is if the universe were run by people or chance, chaos would ensue. Think about this, if 1 million chimpanzees were mixing chemicals over the course of a billion years, could they create anything let alone the universe? How then can such a complex thing as the universe arise if it were the work of many powers all desiring different outcomes? The only way is if it follows 1 law. So if the universe follows the law of the creator, why don't we humans have to? Especially when guidance has come down to us

                                          482 Do they not reflect on the Qur'an? If it was from any other than God they would have found it very different.

                                          It doesn't matter what people say or think, but what actually is. Sex with children is bad, regardless of what pedophiles think.
                                          And morality and religion are independent. Morality doesn't exist because of religion.

                                          But what's "benefit" and what is "harm?"

                                          Well I guess benefit would be something that leaves you in a better state than you were before, and harm does the opposite. What does the dictionary say?

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