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    unknownuser
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    4251] No human being can communicate with GOD except through inspiration, or from behind a barrier, or by sending a messenger through whom He reveals what He wills. He is the Most High, Most Wise.
    Shalom

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      Tay
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      Peace,

      What is it that you need an opinion on?

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        Shalom
        sorry , my question wasn't clear ,
        4251] No human being can communicate with GOD except through inspiration, or from behind a barrier, or by sending a messenger through whom He reveals what He wills. He is the Most High, Most Wise.
        I would like to know, how the humans communicate with God by inspiration ? and behind barrier ? and by sending messengers ?
        Shalom

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          Peace,
          Respectfully.

          You can communicate to God all the time since God, AllPOwerful can hear your thoughts. You are in a contact when you pray, so when you are on the prostration, ask Him.

          Didn't prophet Abraham stand in his prayer and ask God to give him a son?
          Didn't Ali Imran's wife ask for a male child? Well, even after she gave birth to Mary, she still asked Godf, The Protector to protect her and her child from satan the rejected, correct?

          So, ask.
          Matthew 77 - seek and you shall find.

          Love you all, brothers and sisters.
          Peace.

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            Tay
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            Peace Abdallah,

            Thanks for clarifying.
            To add to what Alen eloquently stated

            Your first q
            how the humans communicate with God by inspiration ?

            The word translated to 'inspiration' is 'la wahyan'. Here are the meanings and occurrences for your own study

            Waw-Ha-Ya = to indicate/reveal/suggest, point out, put a thing into (the mind), despatch a messenger, inspire, speak secretly, hasten, make sign, sign swiftly, suggest with speed, write, say something in a whisper tone so that only the hearer hears it clearly but not the person standing close to him.

            waha vb. (1)
            wahy n. vb. 1137, 20114, 2145, 2327, 4251, 534

            awha vb. (4)
            perf. act. 4163, 4163, 4163, 5111, 7117, 7160, 102, 1087, 123, 1215, 1330, 1413, 1668, 16123, 1739, 1773, 1786, 1911, 2038, 2077, 2173, 2327, 2652, 2663, 287, 3531, 4112, 427, 4213, 4252, 5310, 5310, 995
            impf. act. 344, 6112, 6121, 812, 1149, 12102, 12109, 1643, 217, 2125, 3450, 423, 4251
            perf. pass. 619, 693, 6106, 6145, 1136, 1827, 2048, 2945, 3965, 4343, 721
            impf. pass. 650, 693, 7203, 1015, 10109, 1112, 18110, 2013, 2038, 21108, 332, 3870, 416, 469, 534

            Lane's Lexicon, Volume 8, pages 304

            It is my understanding that 'al wahyan' can reach us in various ways. Sometimes it is actual inner dialogue, others it is the mere sight of something that touches your heart. It is a hard thing to pin down, imo, since we're all so different and the communication is custom-tailored for each one of us. For me, making music, being in nature, being with loved one's, and hearfelt reaching out all provide me the inspirational link to my Creator. There are many other ways as well, but that's just to name a few.

            Your second q
            and behind barrier ?

            'Barrier' is from 'hijabin'.

            Here are the meanings and occurrences

            = Ha-Jiim-Ba = something which hinders/prevents/precludes/conceals/covers/protects/intervenes, hid, seclude, to veil/conceal/cover/hide a thing, intervene between two things.

            hajaba vb. (1) pcple. pass. 8315

            hijab n.m. 746, 1745, 1917, 3353, 3832, 415, 4251

            Lane's Lexicon, Volume 2, page 151, 152

            The hidden communication can also mean many things. It really is best that you ponder on the concept and let it come to you rather than have others plant seeds. Just think about ways in which you feel/felt God's presence or communication that were unexpected or perhaps deeper within a specific circumstance or thought.

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            and by sending messengers ?

            This one's pretty obvious, no?
            The messengers of past were liasons, presenting God's truth in plain black and white for us. Some of those messages have been preserved and others have not. However, I don't rule out the messengers greeting us every day in various forms. Anyone delivering truth that resonates is, in that moment, a messenger.

            Overall, I believe the ayah is beautiful in it's explanation that God communicates with us constantly, in every possible way we can receive it - in spoken word, in direct one-on-one inspiration, and in hidden forms. It's reminding us to remain open to it, to keep a look out. We're surrounded by it - all we need to do is pay attention.

            Peace,
            Tay

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              peace,

              Bro Tay's references were from
              http//www.studyquran.co.uk/PRLonline.htm

              The following book has two chapters on this subject which are awesome
              http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=15870.0

              You can download both chapters in the above thread.

              All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                Peace Abdallah,

                Thanks for clarifying.
                To add to what Alen eloquently stated

                Your first q
                how the humans communicate with God by inspiration ?

                The word translated to 'inspiration' is 'la wahyan'. Here are the meanings and occurrences for your own study

                It is my understanding that 'al wahyan' can reach us in various ways. Sometimes it is actual inner dialogue, others it is the mere sight of something that touches your heart. It is a hard thing to pin down, imo, since we're all so different and the communication is custom-tailored for each one of us. For me, making music, being in nature, being with loved one's, and hearfelt reaching out all provide me the inspirational link to my Creator. There are many other ways as well, but that's just to name a few.

                Your second q
                and behind barrier ?

                'Barrier' is from 'hijabin'.

                Here are the meanings and occurrences
                The hidden communication can also mean many things. It really is best that you ponder on the concept and let it come to you rather than have others plant seeds. Just think about ways in which you feel/felt God's presence or communication that were unexpected or perhaps deeper within a specific circumstance or thought.

                Lastly
                and by sending messengers ?

                This one's pretty obvious, no?
                The messengers of past were liasons, presenting God's truth in plain black and white for us. Some of those messages have been preserved and others have not. However, I don't rule out the messengers greeting us every day in various forms. Anyone delivering truth that resonates is, in that moment, a messenger.

                Overall, I believe the ayah is beautiful in it's explanation that God communicates with us constantly, in every possible way we can receive it - in spoken word, in direct one-on-one inspiration, and in hidden forms. It's reminding us to remain open to it, to keep a look out. We're surrounded by it - all we need to do is pay attention.

                Peace,
                Tay

                Shalom Brother tay

                thanks for your answer , I have a idea about how the people receive the revelation (Alwahy) but i wanted only to get more information , thank you , and God bless you
                Shalom

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