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    belH
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    Yes I will try to read any arabic dictionary.

    Peace.

    salam

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    And We ?Shaqaqna? the earth ?Shaqan? , (80-26) And produce therein seeds, (27) And Grapes and nutritious Plants, (2 And Olives and Dates, (29) And enclosed Gardens, dense with lofty trees (30) And Fruits and Fodder (31)

    Can you tell that Shaqaqna means ?made cracks? and not Splits.

    ah, I thought I was talking to a sunni

    I'm a Moslem, because I'm proud with the name that Prophet Ibrahim gave me, and earned the approval of God hail.

    peace

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      salam

      (&#1638 (&#1639 (&#1640
      And We ?Shaqaqna? the earth ?Shaqan? , (80-26) And produce therein seeds, (27) And Grapes and nutritious Plants, (2 And Olives and Dates, (29) And enclosed Gardens, dense with lofty trees (30) And Fruits and Fodder (31)
      Can you tell that Shaqaqna means ?made cracks? and not Splits.
      I'm a Moslem, because I'm proud with the name that Prophet Ibrahim gave me, and earned the approval of God hail.
      peace

      I didn't say split is the only meaning of shiqaq. But according to your arabic dictionaries can you say it doesn't mean split at all?

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        belH
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        I didn't say split is the only meaning of shiqaq. But according to your arabic dictionaries can you say it doesn't mean split at all?

        Split means one thing becomes two things or more. On the other hand, crack means one thing stays one, but an opining happend that changs its look.

        The only time that the Quran speaks about one thing becomes many things are, when the earth and heaven where one, and then God "Fatakhom" and not "Shaqaham". Or the use of word "Faj-er" "explode" when God was speaking about the stones that water comes out of it (in chapter 2)

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        Thenceforth were your hearts hardened; they became like a rock and even worse in hardness. For among rocks there are some from which rivers gush forth; others there are which when "ya-shaqaq" asunder send forth water; and others which sink for fear of Allah. And Allah is not unmindful of what ye do. (74)

        Please note the difference between the rocks that breaks, and the ones that "Ya-shaqaq"--"Cracks".
        Peace

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          How do you insert pictuer

          Yes, how do you do that? Crack in the moon, crack in the photoshop pictures or crack in the head of belivers... I think the question above tops them all. Indeed, how do you crack the moon, then shrink it and then insert it here? Joke aside, I would like to thank these brothers for introducing us to one of the best English verbs crack, which cracks me up whenever I envision the half of the cracked moon in Ali's backyard.

          Here is some serious information about the CRACK in the moon or the moon-cracked crackers.

          v., cracked, crack?ing, cracks.

          v.intr.
          To break or snap apart.
          To make a sharp snapping sound.
          To break without complete separation of parts; fissure The mirror cracked.
          To change sharply in pitch or timbre, as from hoarseness or emotion. Used of the voice.
          To break down; fail The defendant's composure finally began to crack.
          To have a mental or physical breakdown cracked under the pressure.
          To move or go rapidly was cracking along at 70 miles an hour.
          Chemistry. To break into simpler molecules by means of heat.

          v.tr.
          To cause to make a sharp snapping sound.
          To cause to break without complete separation of parts cracked the glass.

          To break with a sharp snapping sound. See synonyms at break.
          To crush (corn or wheat, for example) into small pieces.
          To open to a slight extent cracked the window to let in some air.
          To strike with a sudden sharp sound.
          Informal.
          To break open or into crack a safe.
          To open up for use or consumption crack a book; cracked a beer.
          To break through (an obstacle) in order to win acceptance or acknowledgement finally cracked the ?men-only? rule at the club.
          To discover the solution to, especially after considerable effort crack a code.
          To cause (the voice) to crack.
          Informal. To tell (a joke), especially on impulse or in an effective manner.
          To cause to have a mental or physical breakdown.
          To impair or destroy Their rude remarks cracked his equanimity.
          To reduce (petroleum) to simpler compounds by cracking.
          n.
          A sharp snapping sound, such as the report of a firearm.

          A partial split or break; a fissure.
          A slight narrow space The window was open a crack.
          A sharp resounding blow.

          A mental or physical impairment; a defect.
          A breaking, harshly dissonant vocal tone or sound, as in hoarseness.
          An attempt or try gave him a crack at the job; took a crack at photography.
          A witty or sarcastic remark. See synonyms at joke.
          A moment; an instant at the crack of dawn.
          Irish. Fun; amusement.
          Slang. Crack cocaine.
          adj.
          Excelling in skill or achievement; first-rate a crack shot; a crack tennis player.

          phrasal verbs
          crack down

          To act more forcefully to regulate, repress, or restrain The police cracked down on speeding.
          crack up Informal.
          To praise highly He was simply not the genius he was cracked up to be.

          To damage or wreck (a vehicle or vessel) crack up a plane; crack up a boat.
          To wreck a vehicle in an accident cracked up on the expressway.
          To have a mental or physical breakdown crack up from overwork.
          To experience or cause to experience a great deal of amusement really cracked up when I heard that joke.

          idiom
          crack the whip

          To behave in a domineering manner; demand hard work and efficiency from those under one's control.

          Peace,
          Edip

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            Yes, how do you do that? Crack in the moon, crack in the photoshop pictures or crack in the head of belivers... I think the question above tops them all. Indeed, how do you crack the moon, then shrink it and then insert it here? Joke aside, I would like to thank these Sunni brothers for introducing us one of the best English verbs crack, which cracks me up when I envision the half of the cracked moon in the Ali's backyard as reported by our most trusted men. Here is some serious information about the CRACK in the moon or the moon-cracked apple pie.

            Why you have so much hatred against The Sunnis? Are you jealous of them being on the straight path?

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              unknownuser
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              Split means one thing becomes two things or more. On the other hand, crack means one thing stays one, but an opining happend that changs its look.

              The only time that the Quran speaks about one thing becomes many things are, when the earth and heaven where one, and then God "Fatakhom" and not "Shaqaham". Or the use of word "Faj-er" "explode" when God was speaking about the stones that water comes out of it (in chapter 2)

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              Thenceforth were your hearts hardened; they became like a rock and even worse in hardness. For among rocks there are some from which rivers gush forth; others there are which when "ya-shaqaq" asunder send forth water; and others which sink for fear of Allah. And Allah is not unmindful of what ye do. (74)

              Please note the difference between the rocks that breaks, and the ones that "Ya-shaqaq"--"Cracks".
              Peace

              Thank you brother for such knowledgeable post, would you kindly comment on the following http//www.studyquran.org/LaneLexicon/Volume4/00000300.pdf
              that person think it means split as well.... I think he also had not consulted any arabic dictionary.

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                Why you have so much hatred against The Sunnis? Are you jealous of them being on the straight path?

                Ooops. Seconds after I deleted the word Sunni from my posting you posted the above reaction. Somehow, I did not want to provide you with a redherring, but you were very quick. Congratulation for catching the word Sunni and ignoring the cracking sound of silly stories in Sunni hadith books.

                Have you heard the news about some sunni scientists (!) placing Mecca in the magnetic center of the world? Sunnis and Shiites are the number one enemies of the Quran and Muhammad.

                Peace,
                Edip

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                  savage_carrot
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                  I don't want to start cracking down on this thread, so uh, carry on...and please no more cracking puns!

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                    belH
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                    Ooops. Seconds after I deleted the word Sunni from my posting you posted the above reaction. Somehow, I did not want to provide you with a redherring, but you were very quick. Congratulation for catching the word Sunni and ignoring the cracking sound of silly stories in Sunni hadith books.

                    Have you heard the news about some sunni scientists (!) placing Mecca in the magnetic center of the world? Sunnis and Shiites are the number one enemies of the Quran and Muhammad.

                    Peace,
                    Edip

                    The hour (of Judgment) is nigh, and the moon is cleft asunder. (54-1)

                    Are you refering that 54-1 is not true?

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                      Sunnis and Shiites are the number one enemies of the Quran and Muhammad.
                      Peace,
                      Edip

                      Come on brother, you cannot say that for the majority. Majority of the Moslims love prophet Muhammad and quran. Its only their ulema who have made the Islam a funny religion to take the knowledge and freedom away from the masses. So please dont be so harsh on Sunnis. nope

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                        belH
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                        the word Sunni and ignoring the cracking sound of silly stories in Sunni hadith books.

                        We are not talking about the Hadith, we are talking about Quran

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                          The hour (of Judgment) is nigh, and the moon is cleft asunder. (54-1)

                          Are you refering that 54-1 is not true?

                          No, he didn't like that crack in the pic I think.

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                            belH
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                            No, he didn't like that crack in the pic I think.

                            Will, I was asking does any body know any think about this pictuer, because if is true, thin the Quran verse indecates that the judgment day is near. According to Quran, the Insheqaq of moon will happen, if it did not happend.

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                              We are not talking about the Hadith, we are talking about Quran

                              But still we shouldn't have any kind of Hadith phobia at all.

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                                Fajr
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                                I agree with belalhamad , inshaka means just cracked only not split . First time I've noticed that because of the interference of ahadiths in my knowledge .

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                                  Salam Belal,

                                  Will, I was asking does any body know any think about this pictuer, because if is true, thin the Quran verse indecates that the judgment day is near. According to Quran, the Insheqaq of moon will happen, if it did not happend.

                                  Are you in doubt of the Quran? What is so significant about the picture if you already trust the Quran? And what if the 'end' was near? It has always been near. What does 'far' and 'near' mean to us when death is less than a breath away from us?

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                                    Salam Everyone
                                    7187 They ask you regarding the Hour ?When will be its time?? Say ?Its knowledge is with my Lord, none can reveal its coming except Him. It is heavy through the heavens and the Earth; it will not come to you except suddenly.? They ask you, as if you are responsible for it! Say ?Its knowledge is with God, but most people do not know.?

                                    I don't think anyone can predict the end. The above verse says it will come "suddenly".

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                                      Edip_Yuksel
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                                      We are not talking about the Hadith, we are talking about Quran

                                      Dear Belal Hammad

                                      Below are the translation of the first six verses followed by the endnotes (See QRT)

                                      540 In the name of God, the Gracious, the Compassionate.
                                      541 The moment drew near, and the moon was split.*
                                      542 If they see a sign, they turn away and say, "Continuous magic!"
                                      543 They rejected, and followed their desires, and every old tradition.*
                                      544 While the news had come to them in which there was sufficient warning.
                                      545 A perfect wisdom; but the warnings are of no benefit.
                                      546 So turn away from them; the day will come when the caller will announce a terrible disaster.

                                      Notes

                                      054001 Hadith narrators and collectors misunderstood this verse and tried to support their misunderstanding by the fabrication of a hadith reporting that Muhammad split the Moon by pointing at it with his finger. Some narrators did not stop there and claimed that half of the Moon fell in the backyard of Ali, Muhammad's son-in-law. The believers of this hadith are silent to the critical questions about the event. Why didn't populations of other countries witness this incredible event? If there were such an astronomical event, many people from China to Africa would have noticed and recorded it. Besides, this traditional interpretation contradicts the Quran, which specifically limits the signs given to Muhammad to be the signs contained in the Quran alone (2950-51). The splitting of the Moon was fulfilled when Apollo 11 landed on the Moon and astronauts took some rocks from the Moon back to earth in July 1969. The word shaqqa, which we translated as "split," does not necessarily mean splitting in half (see 8026; 5044). When this event was happening, Dr. Rashad Khalifa was uploading the Quran to his computer in St. Louis. Splitting the surface of the Moon was the start of his work, which led to the historical discovery of the miraculous mathematical system based on code 19, prophesied in chapter 74, which happened in 1974. Thus, the following verse relates to this discovery. See 741-56; 2782; 381-8; 4028-38; 4610; 7228.

                                      054003 The verse also may be read differently and understood as, "They denied and followed their wishful thinking. Indeed, every affair will find its right place."

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                                        Salam Everyone
                                        7187 They ask you regarding the Hour ?When will be its time?? Say ?Its knowledge is with my Lord, none can reveal its coming except Him. It is heavy through the heavens and the Earth; it will not come to you except suddenly.? They ask you, as if you are responsible for it! Say ?Its knowledge is with God, but most people do not know.?

                                        I don't think anyone can predict the end. The above verse says it will come "suddenly".

                                        You are right, none can predict the end. But, if God provides information through revelation then one might learn from it. As for the "suddenly" (baghtata), please note that all verses mentioning its sudden happening is about disbelievers. They will not believe it would happen in advance, despite its signs.

                                        Peace,
                                        Edip

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                                          TAJ
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                                          Salam Aalmakto,

                                          Salam Everyone
                                          7187 They ask you regarding the Hour ?When will be its time?? Say ?Its knowledge is with my Lord, none can reveal its coming except Him. It is heavy through the heavens and the Earth; it will not come to you except suddenly.? They ask you, as if you are responsible for it! Say ?Its knowledge is with God, but most people do not know.?

                                          I don't think anyone can predict the end. The above verse says it will come "suddenly".

                                          The Day of Accountability for mankind is getting closer and closer, yet they are heedless and are turning away from the admonition.

                                          The strike of the hour is going to be sudden, but the final chapter of this dunya is getting nearer. First by our life/time, as we grow nearer to death and second by the Hour as it is drawing nearer to us. The two points are moving towards each other by the second. So at least we know that we are not getting further from the Hour.

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