Adam, Eve, Noah and Evolution
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527 And read/recite on them (the) information/news (of) Adam's two sons with the truth, when they approached/neared an approachment to God (an offering), so (it) was accepted from one of them and was not (to) be accepted from the other, he said "I will kill you." He said "But, God accepts from the fearing and obeying."
Is above allegoric of human conflict and at which point is Adam ? the consciousness of understanding right and wrong ?I will kill you? which does not exist in animal kingdom?
Who woulda thunkit!
The We Persona who created aliens!
Let us (i.e. me) reason we are friends I you? ;D
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Abrahamic faith is full of examples of whole people or cities, places who got washed away or got destroyed.
When people seems to reach a level of transgression, God finds a way.
And it is no wonder, because these people hate themselves anyway.
And in the gay, I often see a tormented insecure satan who hates himself.
And the angels bow to mankind.
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In Paradise? confused
Yea, c'mon read your Qur'an. They were in the Garden, Iblis tempted them to eat the fruit and they knew their "nakedness", therefore they disobeyed God, who said do not eat from the tree. When they did he told them to get out and Adam and Eve were enemies with Iblis from that point on...The True believers will return to this Garden.
Here's the story in short
"'I swear I shall fill Hell with you and all who follow you! But you and your wife, Adam, live in the Garden. Both of you eat whatever you like, but do not go near this tree or you will become wrongdoers.'"
718-19"he lured them with lies. Their nakedness became exposed to them when they had eaten from the tree they began to put together leaves from the Garden to cover themselves."
722"They replied, 'Our Lord, we have wronged our souls if You do not forgive us and have mercy, we shall be lost.' He said, 'All of you get out! You are each other's enemies. On Earth you will have a place to stay and livelihood - for a time.' He said, 'There you will live' There you will die'; from there you will be brought out.'"
723-25Its quite clear here that they were in Paradise no? If not then read The Heights (sura 7) from your Qur'an.
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Iblis too was in "paradise" ?
Do you mind God breaking His own rules?
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Iblis too was in "paradise" o?
Iblis is the deceiver, he deceives all mankind to make their sins and evil appear alluring to us. That doesn't mean he is here on earth. Jinn exist somewhere else and are able to communicate with us, or on the other hand they are unseen on this earth at the moment. It's not far fetched that a Jinn could tempt Adam from outside of paradise. And NO i didnt say he was in paradise, just read the Qur'an before acting confused. God banished Iblis from Paradise, Iblis can tempt people without actually being where they are (don't ask me how God has knowledge of all things). He tempted Adam and his Wife to eat from the forbidden fruit. That is not breaking God's rules. Stop making things contradictory, there are no contradictions, just read the Qur'an.
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Well, you see, 'The Garden' doesn't necessarily mean it's located in the spiritual realm of God. The word 'Jannah' in the Qur'an is used for earthly gardens too.
I suggest T.O. Shanavas' book, Creation/Evolution, for more on this matter.
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Well, you see, 'The Garden' doesn't necessarily mean it's located in the spiritual realm of God. The word 'Jannah' in the Qur'an is used for earthly gardens too.
I suggest T.O. Shanavas' book, Creation/Evolution, for more on this matter.
I see, but do you think Adam was created in Paradise? It's quite easy to discern when talks about Adam and his descendants finding livelihood on Earth. He would only talk about Earth if it was different from the Garden. I believe Adam was in THE Garden.
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Peace,
Respectfully.You talk about something you know.
But why do you tlak about something you d not know.I forgot which chapter carries this verse but one of you will remember, God willing.
Some of you here has gone off topic.I didn't like the comments where Noah's ark is mentioned as a UFO.
We have to glorify God.
Glory be to God, The Most Merciful.
Exalted God Most Merciful forgives a lot.Peace.
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You talk about something you know.
But why do you tlak about something you d not know.733 Say ?My Lord has forbidden all lewd action, what is obvious from them and what is subtle, and sin, and aggression without cause, and that you set up partners with God that which He has never authorized, and that you say about God what you do not know.?
There are many verses that warn people who say what they do not know.