Whats the limit?
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Peace Narma,
It's my understanding that the code of dress, though somewhat specific, is more along the lines of, "don't purposely dress seductively". Think of the purpose behind the guidance.
Of course. Stay true to your art and the quality will shine through.
Peace,
TayI think thats quite true, You shouldn't dress sexy or seductivly weather its for a film or not. But sometimes there is some films where they person might wear shorts but not being sexualized for example the new film 'Smart People', Actress Ellen Page character seems to be a very quiet and humble person even though there is a scene where she is at school in a Gym lessonand she's wearing shorts. Obviously i wouldn't do this role because of that but she isn't sexualised in anyway but its just setting the scene.
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BTW David_K, nope im not taking acting education, but parents dont even kow that I want to do it, I do sort of doubt i will be able anyway cos i live
in England and i want to do start in America, Lol and it aint that easy moving to another country when you still a teen.Namra
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Thanks
In this verse that "they should not reveal their beauty "means what?
The most beatiful part of the body is face .Should we assume the face exposure to other men is prohibited ? Or does it mean something else?You may find the following article interesting
http//www.islamstudie.dk/familie_koen.shehzada.htmIt has also been discussed on the forum.
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BTW David_K, nope im not taking acting education, but parents dont even kow that I want to do it, I do sort of doubt i will be able anyway cos i live
in England and i want to do start in America, Lol and it aint that easy moving to another country when you still a teen.Namra
Peace
I believe we can accomplish anything we want as long as we do it wholehearted )
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True david, But it can be hard when you dont have any1 that really believe in you.
By the way, I sort have come to an conlusion of what i might think allah meantby the limit in our dress code. Mainly always be modest and i think what
he mean by the 'lower you garments' is that women shouldn't wear something that is so short that when you bow down or sit that your body's your private
part is showing and like never wear something low cut especially if your trying to be sexy or whatever. Basically dont show isn't important and private
that only you husband should be able to see.Peace.
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May I remind that the lengthen or lower or whatever your garments injunction is given in the context of Muslim women being molested by disbelievers on the pretext that they couldn't know otherwise it ws believing women they were harassing and that in the next aya it says that such men should be banned from the place. So it is not a question here of women having universally to lengthen or lower whatever, but of deriving the disbelieving molesters of the excuse that they didn't know the women were believers, so they would then be banned from the place for their malfaisance.
Salaam
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Peace
This verse should give you an idea on what kind "dress" you can have.
2431 And tell the believing women to lower their gaze and keep covered their private parts, and that they should not reveal their beauty except what is apparent, and let them put forth their shawls over their cleavage. And let them not reveal their beauty except to their husbands, or their fathers, or fathers of their husbands, or their sons, or the sons of their husbands, or their brothers, or the sons of their brothers, or the sons of their sisters, or their women, or those committed to them by oath, or the male servants who are without need, or the child who has not yet understood the composition of women. And let them not strike with their feet in a manner that reveals what they are keeping hidden of their beauty. And repent to God, all of you believers, that you may succeed.
What is meant by "their beauty" exactly? With this description, one can easily argue that it is a woman's face, therefore she should not reveal her face outside her home. Or it can include her face, in addition to the rest of her "beauty" (her entire body, hair) and therefore she must be covered from head to toe, as many so-called Muslims claim. This is one of many verses that is left open to interpretation and as a result, gave men the opportunity to keep women segregated and oppressed.
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Where God says cover your bossom, He could have said cover your whole body completely. This splitting hairs in something that is not a matter of centimetres but of common sense is really pitiful. You know when you are moving or dressing in order to this or the other. Sure as hell you do not need to measure centimetres or cover or ucnover ears or hairs for that. Any woman knows that. Acting as if in fact we didn't know and some scholar had to come to us and tell us how we should dress in order to be decent is the peak of helplessness and lack of idea of one's proper behaviour.
Another thing, this aya may have something to do with modesty, but it is not exactly or solely about that. As I see it is more about proper social behaviour not necessarily sexual, although it includes it. Please, notice that it says
And let them not reveal their beauty except to their husbands, or their fathers, or fathers of their husbands, or their sons, or the sons of their husbands, or their brothers, or the sons of their brothers, or the sons of their sisters, or THEIR WOMEN
Now, is there any sense inc overing your face in front of other women? With all respect for traditions which may have a practical foundation, I must say that something that resulting in this kind of thing cannot be anything intellectually honest and that it is a circus.
If you want to be modest you will be modest without paying any scholar to teach you how. If some or many men do not want to be modest and clutch at straws to throw responsiblity for their moral disease on somebody else, it is their problem and they must solve it. You cannot solve it for them and it would be counterproductive if you contributed in any way to uphold that travesty.
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i had always read 24.31 to read "And tell the believing women to subdue their eyes, and maintain their chastity. They shall not reveal any parts of their bodies, except that which is necessary."
meaning that if a woman is cooking over a flame, dont wear long sleeves, if she is swimming, wear suitable clothes that enable your bouyancy, if it is hot, dont smother yourself in a black shawl, you can at least wear white to reflect the sun as the men afford themselves.
the logic behind KSA's law which forbids women from driving is that as a woman has to wear a black mask outside of her home with one slit for the eye (as this is what all that is "necessary" to see) though consequently they cant drive as this inhibits one's peripheral vision, and they could have an accident.
the farcicality of their argument really irks me as as i think it actually hinders many from the path of god which is what the quran criticizes jewish people of doing. non-muslims see this sort of behaviour and think "oh so this is islam in action, don't think i'll delve any deeper into that"
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Peace
I personally cover my hair, arms and legs. This doesn't mean I believe that the Quran says to cover my hair nor do I believe in the hadiths. I just find it comfortable for myself to make sure the areas God say to cover ARE covered. I also do like it when Muslim women say their "salaams" to me, though I know Islam is not defined by the hijab. When I became a Muslim, I focused on the religon first and then started to cover as it suited me. I don't believe that it is compulary though.Peace peace
