Should we stone A. Wallace?
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Peace "abrar",
Peace Jonny_k,
There is no any hadith that I have ever heard that indicates the difference between prophets and messengers. Please quote me one. All commentators have derived all their understanding from the Quran.
JK- Oh really? Then please explain to me why the Quran ALWAYS uses these terms in the following manner "BASHARAN rassoolan", bashar being common, "SIDDIQAN nabiyyan", siddiq being common and "RASSOLAN nabbiyan", where according to the previous two RASOOL and not nabi must be common. You cannot deny this clear order arranaged by GOD plus all the other verses i used to prove that a messenger need not be a prophet. GOD Bless!
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Peace "abrar",
JK- Oh really? Then please explain to me why the Quran ALWAYS uses these terms in the following manner "BASHARAN rassoolan", bashar being common, "SIDDIQAN nabiyyan", siddiq being common and "RASSOLAN nabbiyan", where according to the previous two RASOOL and not nabi must be common. You cannot deny this clear order arranaged by GOD plus all the other verses i used to prove that a messenger need not be a prophet. GOD Bless!
Im with Jonny K on this.
456These are Gods revelations that We recite to you with truth. So, in which narration after God and His revelations do they believe?
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Peace Jonny_k,
JK- Oh really? Then please explain to me why the Quran ALWAYS uses these terms in the following manner "BASHARAN rassoolan", bashar being common, "SIDDIQAN nabiyyan", siddiq being common and "RASSOLAN nabbiyan", where according to the previous two RASOOL and not nabi must be common. You cannot deny this clear order arranaged by GOD plus all the other verses i used to prove that a messenger need not be a prophet. GOD Bless!
Bashar can be any human. But in this case he is a CHOSEN HUMAN who is not like other humans as he has an established communication with God which a normal human cannot aspire to achieve. A normal human can pray but God does not communicate directly or indirectly with him but in the case of CHOSEN HUMAN God answers by various means.
Similarly a messenger could be any message bearer but in this case a messenger is special as he delivers God's message which God has communicated to him. A prophet could be anyone foretelling future events but in this case he is the one who foretells God's plan for the future of mankind which God has told him by communication. -
Peace "abrar",
Peace Jonny_k,
Bashar can be any human. But in this case he is a CHOSEN HUMAN who is not like other humans as he has an established communication with God which a normal human cannot aspire to achieve. A normal human can pray but God does not communicate directly or indirectly with him but in the case of CHOSEN HUMAN God answers by various means.
Similarly a messenger could be any message bearer but in this case a messenger is special as he delivers God's message which God has communicated to him. A prophet could be anyone foretelling future events but in this case he is the one who foretells God's plan for the future of mankind which God has told him by communication.JK- The phrases make clear which term, the first or second in the order, is the common of the TWO. Like in "basharan rasoolan" the term "bashar" is common which is the first. In "siddiqan nabiyyan" the term "siddiq" is common as it is inclusive of prophets and is also the first. Similar is the case with "rasoolan nabiyyan" where "rasool" is COMMON. A messenger of GOD per 381 need not be a prophet as well since he could just be confirming a PREVIOUSLY EXISTING SCRIPTURE and not necessarily deliver a new one. GOD Bless!
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peace to all
i'd like to know what message mr. wallace is bringing.
I bring you the proofs.
And I bring you the proofs of salat ( the daily prayers), and the daily readings, and the daily teachings. I manefest the communion.
And I bring my people out of darkness into the light by their Lords leave.
And I deliver to you my Lords messages.
I invite to God in full disclousure, myself and whomever follows me. And Glory be to God. And I am not of those who set up partners.
Peace,
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Peace Jonny_k,
Bashar can be any human. But in this case he is a CHOSEN HUMAN who is not like other humans as he has an established communication with God which a normal human cannot aspire to achieve. A normal human can pray but God does not communicate directly or indirectly with him but in the case of CHOSEN HUMAN God answers by various means.
Similarly a messenger could be any message bearer but in this case a messenger is special as he delivers God's message which God has communicated to him. A prophet could be anyone foretelling future events but in this case he is the one who foretells God's plan for the future of mankind which God has told him by communication.I deliver to you "the submitters communion book." The communion manefested.
peace
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Did you receive it miraculously from God, or is it a product of your intelligence?
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Did you receive it miraculously from God, or is it a product of your intelligence?
Glory be to God, we have no knowledge except what He has taught us...
I bring you the proofs and clarify for you in this book...
It is a product based on the proofs...
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There is still a difference between the will of man, and the will of God. God is perfect and created everything, but human beings have free will and can choose to understand everything in their own way. What our intelligence can explain equates with our own perceptions and prejudices, it is limited by our ego. God doesn't answer our prayers, or give us a true revelation unless we put aside our ego (because if we don't, we're not really praying to God, but to our desires). Thus the manner in which a prayer is answered, or in which a revelation is received, must be unexpected, it must be miraculous.
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Yes, i would love to stone Anthony Wallace with hearts.
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Yes, I would love to stone Anthony Wallace with all my heart.
peace
There is still a difference between the will of man, and the will of God. God is perfect and created everything, but human beings have free will and can choose to understand everything in their own way. What our intelligence can explain equates with our own perceptions and prejudices, it is limited by our ego. God doesn't answer our prayers, or give us a true revelation unless we put aside our ego (because if we don't, we're not really praying to God, but to our desires). Thus the manner in which a prayer is answered, or in which a revelation is received, must be unexpected, it must be miraculous.
God misguides whoever He wishes and guides to Him whoever is repenting.
I bring you the proofs, you can call it what you wont.
peace
It is a product of his intelligence that he understands and brings this message to you from miraculous Quran.peace handshake
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I didn't call it anything. I just asked a question - did you receive it miraculously from God, or is it a product of your intelligence? I'm not trying to criticise, just letting you know what I understand by a message from God. Btw, I think Yosemite likes you.
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I didn't call it anything. I just asked a question - did you receive it miraculously from God, or is it a product of your intelligence? I'm not trying to criticise, just letting you know what I understand by a message from God. Btw, I think Yosemite likes you.
peace
I recieved it maraculously from God.
peace
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Aren't you lucky! as not everyone can receive it. sun
Glory be to our God.
None can grasp it except those who are purified.